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you are GOING DOWN
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me meIn post 235, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
I honestly think it would be easier to make a list of "Not Big Voices" in the playerlist myself. And I know you didn't hang around Kids Characters long but Imperium / Nacho was an example of a scum "Big Voice" that took a Vig shot to take down that game.In post 233, Cheetory6 wrote:I guess I'm kneejerking partially because I feel indirectly attacked and also feel wary of the idea of knocking out big voices earlygame >.>-
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my only read is disappointmentIn post 423, Accountant wrote:McMenno, what are your reads?-
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why does this fact surprise peopleIn post 427, Papa Zito wrote:oh my god WHY IS THIS 18 PAGES-
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you can be a townreadIn post 423, Accountant wrote:McMenno, what are your reads?-
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enlighten meIn post 557, RedCoyote wrote:[Town]-----Cheet--Nahdia-GiF---Grey---MoI-Nukebringer-Ceph-Spiff--PZ--Reck-Ircher--hiplop-Fate-Spy[∙]-LLD-Accountant-Dayne--mastina--Errant--McMenno----SS------------[Scum]-
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patience, patienceIn post 433, Cephrir wrote:
hotIn post 410, hiplop wrote:
thats exactly what i was doingIn post 403, Accountant wrote:Not to be crude but it kinda looked like you were sucking UT's dick there
i feel like youre expecting this to be a Unique Special Snowflake Read sorry to disappoint youIn post 418, McMenno wrote:on page 6 and I think redcoyote is scum currently
no it's not because he's against total war
cheetory is town maybe
cheetory is adorable and i just want to take him home with me-
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no it means that those special snowflake reads will flow inIn post 589, Cephrir wrote:nonsequitur.-
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I scumread himIn post 733, GreyICE wrote:Oh cool, tell me.
How did he fool you before and what reminds you of that time?
then I did not
then someone sarcastically asked me to recount these events
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ye boiiIn post 796, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Pro-Tip - if there is real "low hanging fruit" in this playerlist it is McMenno.
okay folks my hitlist is only 4 people long, more scummy posting please
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excuse me but are you saying that this scumdar I have set to "pre-game" and "all scumz" isIn post 804, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also Cephrir looks meh but I do understand that this is still the glorified pre-game right now.not accurate? it even has the titus stamp of approval and all-
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fuck off ircherIn post 848, Ircher wrote:So how's everyone? Are we thankful that the Nukes got delayed?
nukebringer lld redcoyote ircherIn post 854, Spiffeh wrote:
Who are they?In post 802, McMenno wrote:okay folks my hitlist is only 4 people long, more scummy posting please
also mastina for zitpop man brownie points maybe-
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I'll go to our pt and ask her
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my only weaknessIn post 936, Cephrir wrote:^nuke this-
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can you spell out hipocrisy for me tiaIn post 1173, RedCoyote wrote:I don't know if I have any really controversial opinions thus far though (Total War vote notwithstanding). I'll say McMenno would surpass SS at this point in people that need to be lynched/nuked first. He's flying under the radar insomuch as he's not being talked about as needing rope sooner rather than later. Phony posts, following the crowd, faux-snark, etc.-
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not scum how about youIn post 1294, Ircher wrote:So.... How's everyone?-
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can't disagree with that one
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accountant why are you asking sad about his mastin townread but not lld about her gi townreadIn post 1350, Accountant wrote:
well, spit it out thenIn post 1348, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Mastin is town because of a few huge towntells in her posts.
don't keep us waiting-
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is the answer fuck offIn post 1383, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Go ahead and ask me about my townreads.In post 1378, McMenno wrote:
accountant why are you asking sad about his mastin townread but not lld about her gi townreadIn post 1350, Accountant wrote:
well, spit it out thenIn post 1348, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Mastin is town because of a few huge towntells in her posts.
don't keep us waiting
I dare you.
You'll love the answer.
I am trying to reinforce my pet scumread on you-
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you're*In post 1388, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:And for the record, you fucking donkey, I'm also in a fucking program that requires me to read scientific journals on a regular if not daily fucking basis so I've had enough of your fucking shit.-
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ircher started posting between that post and the last post I made at the timeIn post 1431, Nahdia wrote:732 pings me most. just feels weird considering he's never once talked about Ircher before this.-
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did you read his readslists yoIn post 1458, Vaxkiller wrote:Not sure why anyone thinks ircher is scum, I like his posts so far. Also like guy in freezer, even tho his town post on my was weird.
Ser Arthur Dayne likely scum for coming up with the weirdest excuse for someone being scum ever.
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why did you piggyback off of cephrir's vote instead of voting redcoyote or something_smart, which I'm sure could have a wagon built on them?
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ebwop: for voting meIn post 1471, McMenno wrote:I am pretty sure I did not ask your reasons
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scumbuds spottedIn post 1563, Ircher wrote:@Arthur --> Even for less skilled players, coherence and displayed skill can vary greatly depending on amount of effort. Do you have any examples of scum!Vax?
could you stop chainsawing vaxkiller please? yeah.In post 1616, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I mean I def see the general uselessness in UT's posts.
Mcmenno and UT are the ones who have been skating the most under the surface. The former has some substance in his posts, the latter has none.
aren't we allIn post 1620, Ircher wrote:
And these posts were awful.In post 744, McMenno wrote:
I scumread himIn post 733, GreyICE wrote:Oh cool, tell me.
How did he fool you before and what reminds you of that time?
then I did not
then someone sarcastically asked me to recount these events
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saving this for laterIn post 1845, SpyreX wrote:Mcmenno is a national treasure
pz I expected better of youIn post 1878, Papa Zito wrote: I'd say me but I don't think you'd accept that answer. So I'll go with SAD.-
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wanted to address this in particular, you see he votes me immediately after cephrir does without any commentary then later tries to play it off as an rvs-y vote instead of you know... "yeah I was scumreading you and saw cephrir's vote as an opportunity to start a wagon on you"In post 1702, RedCoyote wrote:In post 1464, McMenno wrote:
In post 1456, Ircher wrote:
VOTE: McMenno
why did you piggyback off of cephrir's vote instead of voting redcoyote or something_smart, which I'm sure could have a wagon built on them?
And you concluded it was a piggyback vote how?
and could you please be consistent? your posts sound like they're made by different players
oh and there's a difference between "scummy" (whatever that means) and "scum"-
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I have an impressive portfolioIn post 1913, Accountant wrote: i disagree the post you quoted was mm's best post so far
it has actual content which is a first
I know I promised to nuke... well, nukebringer, but this is getting real temptingIn post 1909, Ircher wrote: McMenno's scum; he's pushing for my lynch with some of the crappiest reasoning there is.
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I thought it was pretty clear from context that I was referring to ircher's vote thereIn post 1995, RedCoyote wrote:There was commentary, actually (see: 1173, 1219). Further, I challenged anyone to engage me on the vote (which no player has thus far been willing to do). So calling it "rvs-y" or "opportunistic" is a flatout lie. I also find humor in the fact that me putting you at L-11 is "opportunistic". Talk about disconnected from reality.
Since Cephrir and I are mortal enemies this game, it only speaks to how great of a lynch you are that we can both agree on your scumminess.
I don't understand your last sentence. I use scummy as an adjective to describe people that are voting/saying/promoting/attacking in such a way that leads me to believe they are scum.-
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@ircher I guess you've wiped marvel dual universe upick from your mind already
mastin are you twonIn post 2046, mastina wrote:
It's too early to tell for sure, actually. He's not town.In post 2026, Ircher wrote:McMenno has so far done nothing constructive AT ALL this game imo. Why do you think he's town?
But the reason he's not scum is experience.
Have youplayedwith McMenno before?
I have.
Tell me, what's the difference between here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.
Hint: 2 games scum, 6 games town. Which are which?
His posts aren't identical as both alignments, sure.
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oh yeah that alice = lldIn post 2133, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Okay so like.In post 2130, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm not caught up, but I want to post eavesdrop as it comes in:
peggy: maybealice?
I know if these are real the scum posts are still troll and stuff, so like everything is WIFOM and probably waste of time to focus on these "leaks" (unless like an actual gem is caught).
BUT who are the people that usually post in all smalls?
UT, Mcmenno, hiplop? Sometimes Cephrir, Zito, Firebringer?
accountant is twonIn post 2160, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Accountant is scum-
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I mean it's pretty telling that he goes onto this rant about universal scumtells being bullshit and then goes after me, supposedly for me going after him, which is an "easy to pull off wagon" in his own wordsIn post 2023, Ircher wrote:Also, since McMenno is so keen on lynching less-skilled players and players with a habit of getting lynched as town this game without giving even a shadow of a doubt:
The phrase "scummy != scum" means that just because a player may do things that can be viewed as coming from scum (aka scummy), it doesn't necessarily mean that they are scum.
All those scumtells on the wiki..... They probably work about 10% of the time at best. Why? 1) Scum will actively avoid commiting them because.... they're scumtells 2) Townies, who are less cautious generally, have a tendency of commiting some of them by mistake/without intending to do so/sub-consciously.
Scumtells ONLY WORK if the player in question consistently does them as scum but not as often as town. You have to look at the big picture WHICH INCLUDES the player'sbefore you start trying to paint a behavior as something only scum would do even when it's quite obvious that town can do it too.meta and playstyle
Sheeping isnota scumtell 9/10 times because 1) Town can do it 2) Town who townread a better player than themselves may decide that that player's reads are more likely to be accurate 3) Anyone will start sheeping if they become apathetic 4) It's not a behavior that even benefits scum a lot.
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That said, my McMenno vote wasa sheep as I already explained givingNOTTHREEreasons for the vote, yet McMennofocused on onlyon those reasons and claimed my reasons were aONECOVER-UPbecause Iapparentlydidn't want to be called out for sheeping.
Some other things people should realize: "Correlation doesn't imply Causation"; just because my vote camesoon afterCephrir's votedoes not necessarily meanthat Cephrir's votecausedme to vote McMenno.
Maybe you didn't like my reasons for my Mc!enno; that's understandable as long as you show that you read them all. But, trying to press my vote as scummy even when 1) There's just as likely, if not moreso, chance that town COULD do something similar and 2) The number of assumptions to make for McMenno's account is more than the number of assumptions made for what I stated in terms of my vote (Occam's Razor) is beyond ridiculous;it's scum behavior.
And I swear, if there were a lyncher in this game, it would DEFINITELY be McMenno with a win condition to try to lynch me; this isn't the first post of McMenno's that is outrageous and ridiculous with the sole intent of getting me lynched WITHOUT proper evidence or even effort to prove such.
It's obvious to me this is scum McMenno trying to get a lynch he believes to be easy to pull off.
VOTE: McMenno
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what are you trying to say hereIn post 2549, RedCoyote wrote:Not much to comment on. The UT and Mastina wagons undercut one another (keep this in mind for later as UT was long pushed as an alternative that only collapsed when it became relevant ... and the same goes for Vax, naturally, though I think the claim was a valid variable), so all roads seem to lead back to SS. If anyone is online and wants to talk for the next 5-10 minutes, I'll be here. Otherwise I'm V/LA for the next couple of days.
VOTE: untrod trodprod