DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[mastina]

mastin what is your avatar

It's my character, Ruby, drawn by me.
Admittedly I did a pretty shitty job of doing the avatar. I wanted one by the eighth (the day I created this account), but I wasn't even CLOSE to drawing the page that contained that image. So with basically no experience with the program, I rushed to create something that would at least be somewhat passable.

I intend to redraw it at a higher quality at some later time.

[Vaxkiller]

espionage, eavesdrop, sub, strat missle defense, missle silo

Why for all these picks.
Especially the first two.

Really? Why these picks?

Espionage - To find scum, I figured I would try to get this for my 1st pick
Eavesdrop - To hear scum I thought given my first pick didnt go though I may have a chance at this.
Submarine - It was a long shot, but why not try for it. Its possible no one else even tried for it. I could nuke a scum (hopefully) unaware so they could not prevent it.
Strategic Missile Defense - I was debating this one alot, my fear was I would prevent a nuke from hitting its target (thinking the target was town) but only to find out after the game they were scum. I could really see my self doing this. Ultimately I figured later in the game we would have some people cleared, soit would be safe to use then. I didn't think this would be high up on anyone's list so it was worthwhile putting down.
Missle Silo - Really why I wanted to play the game in the first place. To nuke the crap outta someone. I know I did not need to put this on the list to have it selected, but it just felt right.

[Cheetory6]

To find scum, I figured I would try to get this for my 1st pick

How would this find scum.

[Vaxkiller]

To find scum, I figured I would try to get this for my 1st pick

How would this find scum.

Are you for real? Target a player and choose a faction you are not aligned with? It reveals whether the player is of that faction or not?

You are asking how this finds scum?

[Cheetory6]

I'm stupid.
Forget I asked.

[McMenno]

@ircher I guess you've wiped marvel dual universe upick from your mind already

McMenno has so far done nothing constructive AT ALL this game imo. Why do you think he's town?

It's too early to tell for sure, actually. He's not town.
But the reason he's not scum is experience.

Have you

played

with McMenno before?

I have.
Tell me, what's the difference between here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Hint: 2 games scum, 6 games town. Which are which?

His posts aren't identical as both alignments, sure.
But they're pretty damn similar.

mastin are you twon

[Cephrir]

rich analysis thanks

[McMenno]

aren't we all

[SpyreX]

Wait a second what the shit did this turn into me being scum

[SpyreX]

I really want someone to call him out but deep inside i know it won't Halen page 150 hoo

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wait a second what the shit did this turn into me being scum

Nah mb I thought the scum line had your tone to it.

Turns out it's a direct copy and paste from a greyice line.

[SpyreX]

I was gonna say cheeky bastards mimic me

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Anyway I still support a Vaxkiller lynch.

Him being eavesdropper changed very little. And so does his list. Scum would be contesting town roles anyway.

And Vax's posts, even of true, indicate scum are hiding their posts and self aware. so even in the slim possibility he is town we aren't losing much.

[Papa Zito]

I really want someone to call him out but deep inside i know it won't Halen page 150 hoo

bro

[Andrius]

VoteCount

Vaxkiller [10] - Ser Arthur Dayne, SpyreX, Fate, Cephrir, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Accountant, xRECKONERx
Untrod Tripod [4] - mastina, Something_Smart, Papa Zito, Cheetory6
Ser Arthur Dayne [2] - Lady Lambdadelta, Vaxkiller
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
Something_Smart [2] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod
McMenno [1] - Ircher

Not Voting [3] - hiplop, Nahdia, RedCoyote

With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

It is now DEFCON 3. Day 1 will last until December 4th, 2016, at 13:00 hours.
COUNTDOWN: (expired on 2016-12-04 17:00:00)

Spiffeh is V/LA this week.
Papa Zito is V/LA this week.
Firebringer is V/LA this week.

[RedCoyote]

I just made a huge post about this and erased it because I realized that Occam's Razor says that Vax has Eavesdrop, is town, and the scum are just screwing with the drops.

Unless we get any counters, I don't think we should be lynching Vax.

[McMenno]

I mean you can say "occam's razor says this person is town" to everyone

[Cephrir]

it's also possible they decided to mess around with it just so he would have something compelling to claim.

I'm not opposed to at least letting it go a few days, though.

[RedCoyote]

Anyway I still support a Vaxkiller lynch.

Him being eavesdropper changed very little. And so does his list. Scum would be contesting town roles anyway.

And Vax's posts, even of true, indicate scum are hiding their posts and self aware. so even in the slim possibility he is town we aren't losing much.

What do you say to the idea that scum would want town to have Eavesdropper? As scum, I would prioritize the troops much differently.

Further, scum had no idea that Toog/Vax would be in a situation to claim D1.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

If we let this go what's stopping us from letting anyone who roleclaims go

There's 13 roles obv scum got some...

Pedit:@Ceph

[RedCoyote]

I mean you can say "occam's razor says this person is town" to everyone

The hurdle I can't get around is why scum would want to select it when literally every other troop is more valuable for them to have. To top it off, if town has it, scum can screw with them.

[RedCoyote]

If we let this go what's stopping us from letting anyone who roleclaims go

There's 13 roles obv scum got some...

No, SAD. No. That's bullshit. Put on your critical thinking cap. Of course they got some, but why would they prioritize Eavesdrop? You need to answer that. Not for me, but for yourself. Otherwise you can't keep voting Vax in good conscience.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Anyway I still support a Vaxkiller lynch.

Him being eavesdropper changed very little. And so does his list. Scum would be contesting town roles anyway.

And Vax's posts, even of true, indicate scum are hiding their posts and self aware. so even in the slim possibility he is town we aren't losing much.

What do you say to the idea that scum would want town to have Eavesdropper? As scum, I would prioritize the troops much differently.

Further, scum had no idea that Toog/Vax would be in a situation to claim D1.

What do you say to the idea that scum prioritized Eavesdropper because they knew town would think they wouldn't and so get one of their buddies a free dodge from a lynch.

Is the poisoned wine in front of me, or you...

But anyway regardless, Vax was likely to be one of the people to be run up Day1 from pregame discussion. Still doesn't change the fact scum can prioritize Eavesdropper (esp considering there's 5 of them). Didn't even LLD say she went for Eavesdropper as scum last DEFCON game?

[Cephrir]

If we let this go what's stopping us from letting anyone who roleclaims go

There's 13 roles obv scum got some...

Pedit:@Ceph

Probably only... 4? shouldn't be lynched today, but admittedly eavesdropper isn't really one of them.

That role just might make him town, since it seems likely scum would choose to play around it rather than waste a spot on it themselves. I will not claim to be certain of that or anything and I'm not really gonna throw a hissy fit if we lynch it anyway.

Of course there's nothing stopping him from being the terrorist, really.

[Spiffeh]

My answer to "why would scum go for X role":

"To seem town"