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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:37 am

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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:00 am

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Wagon pref S_S > UT > vax
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:06 am

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Okay I'm due a big write up tonight when I have a computer.

But why not Mastina?
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:06 am

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Like is she off the table for any reason besides no one wants to read her posts?
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:19 am

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In post 2253, GreyICE wrote:Like is she off the table for any reason besides no one wants to read her posts?
She's going to be vaporized anyway.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:31 am

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VoteCount


Vaxkiller [6] - SpyreX, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Lady Lambdadelta
Untrod Tripod [6] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, Fate, xRECKONERx
Something_Smart [5] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

It is now DEFCON 3. Day 1 will last until December 4th, 2016, at 13:00 hours.
COUNTDOWN: (expired on 2016-12-04 17:00:00)

Ser Arthur Dayne is V/LA until Friday.
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In post 2218, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Andrius, cryptography is banned. Does this include things such as "every second word" or "every 5th letter" or otherwise? i.e: A normal readable post that has a hidden meaning only when the key is known. A form of book cipher? Additionally, does the eavesdropper receive messages in their original form, including bolded or otherwise altered text?
The every second letter game was allowed previously, I see no reason not to allow it this time should it appear.

External encryption/decryption is prohibited.
Book Cipher requires an outside key so I'd say no to that.

An Eavesdropper receives messages in their original form.

In post 2219, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Additionally...

Andrius, when you determine which messages are eavsedropped, do you roll them separately? (i.e: for each individual message you roll the dice and that determines whether it is dropped or not) Or do you gather together all messages from a time block and take a percentage of them. Like "every 10 messages, the last 3 of them will be dropped".
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:33 am

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VOTE: Something Smart

Fate's move means my switch makes SS a more viable wagon than Vax.
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Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:33 am

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Yeah ok.

Vax, post everything you have word for word.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:34 am

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In post 2248, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Now personally if Vax is not Commie and just terrible I think I want RC to die ASAP.
Yes, we know, MoI. You needn't keep reminding us. We go through this charade every game we play together. You always have wanted to lynch me, and you always will want to lynch me. My alignment doesn't matter because you can never accept that someone views the game differently than you do. It's duly noted, so spare us your false dilemmas.
MoI wrote:He’s taking Vax’s statements at face value. Which Commie scum tend to inadvertently do when they know they aren’t dealing with a partner. Same unsurprisingly goes for SAD in .
Whether or not he drafted Eavesdrop first or second means precisely dick unless you're disputing the fact that he has it. As explained several times, my contention is that he wouldn't have drafted it at all. Further, I don't think he'd have the intuition to concoct a fake list strictly for WIFOM purposes as you're suggesting.
MoI wrote:So in a long piece (and condescending) piece about how mastin was bad for not understanding the past and the set-up you posted incorrect information about the set-up (specifically that the Terrorist automatically takes one troop out of play). Do I have that correct?
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:36 am

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Also, I love the subtle character assassination swipes at me when you were previously calling Mastina either scum or a stupid drunk for that plan.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:37 am

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In post 2221, GuyInFreezer wrote:LLD rn:

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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:05 am

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rc casually handwaving moi's scumread on him away because "he always scumreads me" pretty sure it's not based on playstyle bus
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:15 am

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he seems to like handwaving scumreads. i love being patronized, so it's very enjoyable.

i sure can't decipher the rest of 2261
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:15 am

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maybe mcmenno posts in cipher and if you know the code he actually says things that are town
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:16 am

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It is. I'd rather not have to go through the history once again as no one cares and we just did it in Poker Mafia, so just take my word for it.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:16 am

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In post 2263, Cephrir wrote:maybe mcmenno posts in cipher and if you know the code he actually says things that are town
Hes just bad at communication skills
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:18 am

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i think he's been quite good at communicating that his role pm is red
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:20 am

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RC what is your read on mastin?

Because earlier I thought you were saying she was scum but then I saw this:
In post 1995, RedCoyote wrote:But thanks for giving the scumteam extra information. I'm sure it's appreciated.
which implies you don't think she's scum?

And in that same post I feel like you're being really hard on her and overly frustrated for little reason and I can't figure out what your goal is with her
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 1995, RedCoyote wrote:As to your second point, you really consider McMenno and Ircher to be "universal nuke targets"? I think I'm one of, like, three people that has even batted an eye at McMenno. As for Ircher, I think he's caught more flak, but nothing major. I don't even think Vax is really a nuke target because I think people are more anxious to see him eat rope than wait to nuke him.
I guess "lynchbaity" would have been a better term

I was just curious as to why you were vocally bashing all those players when I feel like S_S was guilty of a lot of the same stuff and you didn't mention him
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:23 am

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In post 1995, RedCoyote wrote:If you can explain to me how Mastina is helping the town, I'll concede the point. Nukes are to be used like vig shots as far as I'm concerned.
this is fair

I guess I'm just biased because mastina looks pretty transparently town to me and I really don't get why so many people are scum reading her beyond "you're being bad and useless"
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:30 am

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Ircher is probably town after all
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:33 am

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In post 2038, mastina wrote:
In post 2023, Ircher wrote:[basically a scumclaim]
I mean.
I could say "nuke this shit".

But what I really want is for us to just lynch Ircher.

I'm on UT because the wagon's larger.
(I also don't really support the Vaxkiller wagon right now.)
That was literally one of the towniest posts itg from anyone

What in that post makes you think he's scum?
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:37 am

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In post 2270, Spiffeh wrote:Ircher is probably town after all
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:38 am

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2023 looks rly town to me
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:43 am

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In post 2126, Fate wrote:Has no one considered Vax fakeclaiming to draw out a disruptive role to scum?

Proceed with rope
If he's fakeclaiming someone would have counter claimed by now?

Why would we proceed with rope before this happens

Fate why are you being bad
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