DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

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VOTE FOR

let's nuke shit

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dude don't you dare nuke the hydra before me

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Getting 2 lynches before the mafia start killing seems like a plus? Help me out.

DAYVIGS YO

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sheep me on total war trust me I won't nuke you

^this guy nukes

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Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

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an artists' rendition of me

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Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

Woah. Woah.

look at the smileys again

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get nuked scrub

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dream big

every post is a nuke

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I'm at work but I WILL SOON

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Turbonuked has a nice ring to it

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Like when I nuke cheet for being a wet blanket

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I'LL HAVE MY NUKES TO KEEP ME WARM

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Man, one hour into the game and I'm already made with power

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Ut give me your best trollface gif

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Be more town or I'm gonna personally turn you and your Magical Kingdom into prime real estate.

that's the spirit

I'll nuke you after the hydra

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Mastin's scum.

Well yes, but sadly I'm not MAFIA.

NAILED IT.

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you can nuke deez nuts

oh baby

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mastin, can you talk a little about any kind of thoughts you have wrt LLD scumreading you here?

Oh there's absolutely nothing wrong with her scumreading me.
I expected to die early, at the hands of town, the moment I started posting. I condemned myself to that fate because I decided, "What the hell. It's Defcon mafia. Playing it seriously is missing the fucking point of playing." Meaning I'll die, and it'll be early, and it'll be mostly town doing so and they will be absolutely justified in having done so.

It also means that if I actually did bother to give a damn and give reads, they'd be ignored because I'm playing like a fucking village idiot right now so when I die they'll go "she deserved it", "she was asking for it", and so on and they'll be absolutely right to have done so. (Which again, is why I'm apologizing in advance. If I was wrong in my decision to not take this game seriously, I'll accept full blame, full consequences, for having ruined it for others who did.)

But all that said.

If you want to know what my stance on LLD is?

Let me say it right here and right now:
When LLD endgames you, I'll be the first to say "I fucking told you so", because this is me, telling you so. She's scum.

jesus fucking christ reck now we have to deal with ^this shit for even longer

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do you see this shit, Reck

you did this

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we could be gleefully discussing who gets to nuke mastina first but no

you had to be a special snowflake

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Only person to ping me so far is Recks. Just the way they outted their reads; it seems very flimsy and my gut read is scum trying to ensure they've got their bases covered wrt early contribution. Definitely not a strong inclination, just where I'm thinking rn.

he's probably the turrist

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Btw I actually have gained reads in spite of not reading the first few pages. People here feel ridiculously transparent. (Well not all, I'll never claim to read one or two of the players in here, but some legit are seriously scum or obviously town.)
The main issue I'm having here is on whether I should tell you or not.
Because while telling you is technically pro-town...it also ruins the mood, kills the fun, and is an actual ~town~ thing to do and thus not the TROLL thing to do.

The fact that LLD scumreading you did not spawn a self referential wall is very worrisome

shit. it's evolving!

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307 is a pretty good redemption

yeah but who ISN'T nuking that guy

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307 is a pretty good redemption

yeah but who ISN'T nuking that guy

Communists

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I think LLD is just trying stuff to see who runs with it

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are you people not even CHECKING the rules before you ask these things?

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oh boy here we go

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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a nuke is worth a thousand words

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someone named Ircher is begging for the sweet release of NUCLEAR DEATH

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taking the bunker eh?

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Can we kill Mastina yet

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Zito if i let you control my nuke what would you do with it

I would write "To mastina, love Actual Players" and then draw little pink hearts on it and drop it right on her forehead.

I can't argue this and now i want an artist to draw up every nuke

My nukes are all dick shaped

Here is the list I submitted

1. Nukes
2. Nukes
3. Nukes
4. Nukes
5. Nukes

Do you think I'll get them guys do you

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unless of course I am and am just throwing people off my trail so i can surprise nuke people

ooOoOooooOOOooOoh!!!

Reck try less hard plz

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Can you see

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MoI you are so sassy this game

Expectation of both a limited lifespan and sweet sweet Nuke-age of my scum reads independent of needing others has me feeling more carefree than usual.

Isn't it just the best feeling?

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Maybe our nukes can wave to each other in the air as they sail towards dumbasses

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MoI you are so sassy this game

Expectation of both a limited lifespan and sweet sweet Nuke-age of my scum reads independent of needing others has me feeling more carefree than usual.

Isn't it just the best feeling?

Few things in life are as sweet
As avoding kissing dirty feet
Instead we bow with great aplomb
And fix our woes with the bomb

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Huh?

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Ep is scum

thoughts?

you picked a contrarian view in hopes of getting townread for it?

Do I win the prize?

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UT is basically trying to act like SpyreX and he sees the funhappyjoketimes as his way to blend in but spyspy is actually making real thoughts & stuff underneath it all so UT is just wearing a shitty Party City knockoff SpyreX mask

meanwhile I'm just glad you actually feel confident about a read in a mafia game, even if it's wrong

have you considered that maybe, just maybe, I just have a deepseated desire to nuke shit and the beginning of the game was entirely bullshit from everyone and I just didn't care

but nooooooo you want to be Mr Party Pooper and vote no to nukes all day every day

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also what is this Vaxkiller wagon? I've been out of town for the last few days and not really reading games

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His first post is him showing knowledge of the fact we didn't go to war, but claims he didn't know who didn't vote for no war.

He later claims he looked at mod posts like 505 and saw the "not voting" was everyone else.

Those two things don't align. It clearly says who is not voting for TOTAL WAR right above that line.

what's the point of scum pretending they don't know who voted though?

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(thank you yes, that line of argument is horseshit)

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so... scum says "I should pretend I don't know what's going on in the thread so it'll look casual"?

I guess town doesn't really have a reason to pretend that? I just find it more likely that it's super dumb than scum

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but what's the scum motivation in him lying about that? that's the part I'm missing here

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I typically don't like tipping my hand to the scumteam as it is, in this game where I get to just fucking shoot them I'm even less inclined.

A man after my own heart.

I've been slammed lately, but I'm off work Wednesday-Sunday so I'll go back tonight and see what I've missed or skimmed. Off the top of my head though, I'm unsure why SS is getting a pass going into D1 considering that he hasn't done anything that made his first post(s) in the game less awful and his vote on my wagon was opportunistic and scummy as shit. mastina is still terrible and nukeworthy. Grey is town as fk. not a huge fan of Cheet's post right before this. Accountant is town.

vote SS

I still want this to die. I'm nuking it tomorrow, if I don't live that long someone else needs to nuke it.

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nah

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how about you vote SS with me

it'll be fun

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#checkmate

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head cannon

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still don't want to lynch Vax.

SS's "defense" of being scumread smacks of caught for the wrong reasons, with a heavy dose of making-shit-up-as-I-go-along mixed in. still loving my vote.

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why do you need more?

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Spoiler: for SS

...and now we wait.........

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oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )

this is the slot people are trying to save

look at that post and tell me that it's from town

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I realize it's been a while and there's been 92 pages of bullshit since then

but that post is so fucking scum

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oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )

this is the slot people are trying to save

look at that post and tell me that it's from town

I realize it's been a while and there's been 92 pages of bullshit since then

but that post is so fucking scum

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Like voting ut just hurts guys

that's just because I'm wearing ur face, dawg

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oh my god can we not do this

the game had been so pleasant up to this point

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I mean yeah I could lynch mastina just for 2389 alone

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it's a pretty shitty style

can we just get on with lynching SS and let mastina go play in the corner so we can just point and laugh when SS flips scum

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I meannnnnnnnnnnn I'll nuke her if that'll get your dick hard

Pedit: yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup

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Also, she is going to get nuked on the first day of nukes, so there's not all that much point in me worrying about it

Ok but so are a shit ton of other people.

Why let easy nukes exist when we can just lynch the shit out of them and use nukes more efficiently?

well there's already a bunch of people voting SS so intertia etc.

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Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

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oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )

like seriously look at this ridiculous LOLIMSOCASUALLYTOWN monstrosity and tell me it's not bad nervous scum

please, LLD, for posterity I want you to do that

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Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

It's not the first post, its the way he reacted to pressure.

That first post was terrible on every level. It has all the hallmarks of a scum intro. It was awkward, it was trying to not be awkward it was forced and ugly and bleh.

But... the pressure put on him has caused him to lash out in a manner that feels town to me.

dude game openings are the most revealing time for people. you can RELIABLY catch at least one scum in the first page or two with this shit

I do it literally every game

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Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

Lol this post.

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It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.

This is a shallow way of looking at it. UT is entirely right that the opening to a game is one of the most vulnerable times for scum.

I mean, if he caught it on page 3,

or 5, or 10, or anything that's not near page 100, sure.

But he's literally just using it now to scumread someone.

Uhhhhh that's a no. I've been talking about how he needed to die since page 2.

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and that's a complete non sequitar anyway. it's still D1 and it's not like his alignment has changed or something.

shit, even if it were like 3pLYLO it would still be a valid reason to want him to die

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> "I still want SS to die.
> First time mentioning Something Special in his life.

Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

is that so?

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Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

Woah. Woah.

look at the smileys again

for bonus smiley action!

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Was it really that game? I coulda sworn that was a game I just wasn't able to get quite coherent.

oh honey

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vote mastina

I can fuck with this

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My surprised face ->

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nah I've also been really on board with mastina dying since she started posting

but whatever you want to tell yourself, Fate

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gotta tell the STORY people want to hear

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and also if that were true I would have been voting Vaxkiller soo0o0o0o0o0o0o0o

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nah I've also been really on board with mastina dying since she started posting

pics or it didnt happen

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would be a good example

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We can get past this reck

We can vote SS and dance on his corpse in the nuclear wasteland

Together <3

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vote SS

Your vote plz

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UT had 0 contribution to the game until he became a lynch contender.

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Let's lolwagon someone for their opening post.

let's be clear

it's not a lolwagon. I see that post as looking like nervous scum. It's a serious vote for me.

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it's not a lolwagon. I see that post as looking like nervous scum. It's a serious vote for me.

K neat. You're probably the only vote of the last 4-5 that doesn't come across like a lolVote.
Do I get a response from you on Nukebringer and RECK now?

yeah, Reck's town. don't have much of a memory of Nuke which probably a bad sign since they have holy shit 111 posts. their last post looked like they were paraphrasing a post I made about SS. since I'm not on average being townread at the moment that seems like it might be an attempt to subtly undermine the wagon

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Listen if Reck is willing to put his friendship on the line and risk mislynching a friend that he enjoys mafia with I'm p sure that there's a very good chance he's right.

This, coupled with the fact UT only started doing something when he received heat, makes him good lynch

of all the things I don't do, taking mafia personally is probably the thing I don't do the most

and Reck knows that

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What happened to kill all hydras? Shouldn't that have been extra applicable when they jumped on your bandwagon for no reason while giving more attention and more questions to SS?

hydras are for nuking

yeah I just said that I thought they were subtly undermining the SS wagon. they're on my to-nuke list for definite if SS flips scum (and I think he will) but that read is dependent on seeing SS flip so let's do that first

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I want to lynch SS. mastina will do as well if the votes are there.

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claimclaimclaimclaimclaimc

I mean

it's pretty clear that you're not actually reading anything and are just pushing empty words at an empty wagon

*hitoshrug*

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Zito if i let you control my nuke what would you do with it

I would write "To mastina, love Actual Players" and then draw little pink hearts on it and drop it right on her forehead.

I can't argue this and now i want an artist to draw up every nuke

My nukes are all dick shaped

Here is the list I submitted

1. Nukes
2. Nukes
3. Nukes
4. Nukes
5. Nukes

Do you think I'll get them guys do you

read the fucking game, scrub

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A complaint you can levy at like 4/5ths of the people playing this game right now. What biting criticism.
Claim.

an artist's rendition

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you know you got that sugar body

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I 4give u MoI

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ya'll please remember how bad this post was

oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )

ya'll please remember how bad this post was

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That's okay I didn't want your forgiveness anyways.

I mean you could start earning it early by swapping to SS

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I will proxy my nuke to you dude

you know how much I love my nuke

but I'll do it

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other people I would proxy my nuke to: Reck, Spyrex, LLD

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oh and Fate, duh

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anyway, Nuke and McMenno have been pretty shit surrounding this wagon recently, wouldn't be shocked if they're buddies to SS

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Accountant is pretty town. Cheet looks like bored town.

Zito's vote sucked, probably scum.

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So how many of them are actually scummy

well and also how many of those are actually things I've done because it's like, none

his list of horseshit grows exponentially as he scrambles to save SS

it's cute

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uhhhhh why would scum be more likely to try to stay alive than town? scum are more likely to just lay down and die, or to allow others to defend them, than town because it can be part of a larger plan to paint buddies and town and paint enemies as scum. what you're claiming is a complete opposite of "what is more likely"

but your contributions to the game thusfar have been just vomit and nonsense so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised by that analysis!

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Scared scum hiding early votes on players who will never actual become a lynch target, so as to avoid having to push mislynches? Additionally it can seem like the scum is "actually scumhunting" by avoiding "easy targets" Seems pretty obvious to me why that would be bad....

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the question wasn't "Is that a possibility" it was "why would that be bad"

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be the change, Spyrex

vote SS

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negative. I am a meat popsicle.

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When cornered, the scum will often fakeclaim to draw out their natural enemy the cop.

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huh?

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yeah or he's just scum

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oops!

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that's a pretty big oops friendo

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are you people seriously going to let this scumbag coast on a bullshit cop claim

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12) This is a full reveal game. Upon death, that player’s alignment and any abilities they had will be flipped.

my guess would be yes

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hehe

nahdia should use her counterintelligence to make it look like she visited nobody

ha ha look how funny I am in not offering any real suggestions and thereby negating any chance I have to implicate my teammates ha ha ha ha ha I'm so casual right now

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thanks UT i looked but didnt see that bless u.

anyway, that being the case, do u deny it's not optimal to let Something_Sultry live a day so he can get a result? from mastina's claim, we know SOMEONE has to have Espionage so if he's scum he'll be counterclaimed tomorrow.

unless, you know, he's scum who drafted espionage. which i guess is totally possible. idk.

I think SS is really, really, really transparently scum

And, frankly the fact that Martina sees it the opposite should be proof to you that I'm right

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Nah optimal town play is lynch the obvious fakeclaiming scum

But it's cool, you're a useful barometer for what the opposite of good play is

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The last thing I've been doing is whining about being voted

I've been trying to get actual scum lynched.

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Things keep making me question my reads, but I will ignore then because I have no brain and I must trash

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...so why aren't you voting him?

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you're so close

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probably because you're not dumb and know he is fakeclaiming scum and therefore would just say "yeah LLD is town"

wtf dude

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Espionage: Knowing is half the battle, and when a nation needs to know, it relies on its clandestine organizations like the CIA or MI6 to get the job done. {Each night, you may target a player and choose a faction you are NOT aligned with. I will reveal to you whether that player is aligned with that faction or not.}

I swear to christ this seriously is not that hard to look up

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the vomit and nonsense part, or the scum try to use their deaths to their advantage part?

Pedit: yeah but like SS is scum and I'm not so we should lynch him. mafia 101.

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With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

it's 13 to lynch doofus

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I swear to god, am I the only person in this game who knows how to read

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it's okay friend, like jesus I can forgive you

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You can do anything you set your mind to. The only limit is your imagination. Second place is just first loser. Your mother and I will love you no matter what. if she wanted to date you she'd make time for you. No one except you needs to know everything you know. Nothing is ever as good or as bad as it seems. This too shall pass. There are graveyards full of dead heroes. You're still dumb if you're being dumb with a crowd. All improvements to a learned skill are imperceptible and incremental.

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Goddammit.

UT's town.

If the options are lynching UT or lynching Something_smart, I'll pick lynching UT any day over lynching Something_smart, but UT's flipping town.

Well we've got a week, dawg. If you think I'm town don't vote for me.

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The uh

Words were for SpyreX though. Fuckin ninjas made that post less good

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Probably depends on the target

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My Nuke read is kind of dependent on SS flipping scum. EP, sure why not?

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UT I don't really think you are scum but like I'm not voting the cop so

He is so transparently fakeclaiming scum it is giving me a rage boner

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well first of all, his first post in this game is basically a scum claim.

Second of all, the timing of the claim and the (complete lack of) posting afterwords makes it faker than me promising to cuddle your mother after

Pedit: at spiff

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Of the three, I have the strongest scumread on Nuke, but it's contingent on SS being scum too, so that feels KIIIIIINDA loose

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UT I don't really think you are scum but like I'm not voting the cop so

He is so transparently fakeclaiming scum it is giving me a rage boner

Again like,

I kinda see where you're coming from cuz the likelihood of us running up the cop vs scum fake claiming to draw real cop,

but still it's a claimed cop that will resolve itself in a few days.

There's still 4 other scum if you think he is. We're not desperate enough to hit scum Day 1 enough to lynch a claimed cop.

ughhhhhhhh I mean.... you're not wrong about it resolving itself but.... It just seems so obvious to me that I really want to lynch it NOW while there are a bunch of votes on it

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I'm down for uhhhhh

an LLD flashwagon

The "sekrit" plans thing was weird enough that I'd be pretty okay with this

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It's hard to dance on graves when you're in one

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who are your bigger scumreads?

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Reck, how do you feel about

mastina
LLD
EP
RC
Nukebringer

?

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I ran that game

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Does anything here look good

reck and accountant as town is fine

but yeah I'm gonna

vote mastina

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

we're gonna lynch SS tomorrow right? when we learn for sure that he's fakeclaiming scumbag? pretty please?

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@UT: I mean noone can stop you from just nuking him

I proxied my nuke so I'll nuke who I'm told to

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You think that the scum could just be posting pure WIFOM

Really?

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Oh the point was that it doesn't evolve much?
Okay.
I still don't really understand why that makes her scum?
It probably evolved more than S_S's reads have in the past like.. 121 pages..

Well I wanted to lynch SS but apparently we're not doing that so......

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Cheet cheet cheet

Who do you want to lynch and don't say me

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I don't see how you could ISO dive SS and not come away with any opinion other than "I must vote this until it dies" but whatever

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So why Zito? Talk to me about him.

Same reason as the others, albeit slightly weaker: my psychological profile of Zito tells me he

could

act this way as town.

I would be

thoroughly

disappointed if he actually WERE acting this way as town, sure. Which is one reason why I'm hoping and praying he's scum like I'm predicting. But it's possible he's town with shitty play.

All the same, while it's possible, it is only at...like, 25% tops chance. If my profile is even remotely close to accurate on him, then this is more akin to his scumgame than his towngame.

I'd be more than happy to bus him if you'd join me there. I'm not voting him right now simply because he doesn't have the support.

First, tell me about my profile. I'm curious

Second: bus...him...?

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vote SS

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

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I still want to hear about my profile

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I want Nukebringer dead most from this.
Everything about the wagonhopping between UT and S_S was garbage.

welcome to the party

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I'm the real espionage. Proceed with justice please.

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Unless we somehow came across amazing compelling evidence that'll actually let me skip reading all this nonsense?

SS claimed Espionage
SS was a scumbag
GiF counterclaimed Espionage
GiF is p town
we lynch SS now k?

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I have Espionage.
VOTE: UT

I'm the real espionage. Proceed with justice please.

I got u

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vote nuke

hahaahahahahshahahahhahahahahahahshaha

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Now that Fate is dead we can have auditions for auctioning off my nuke

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It's not as good as SADcase, honestly, but Nukebringer's wagonhopping on and off UT/SSwagons was pretty gross. Especially the weird wavering of confidence/lackadaisical attitude toward both:

Spoiler:

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Fine with Something_Smart as well. Don't care for role arguments, but Vaxkiller can die in radioactive ash.

I like both equally. I just picked one.
Though to be completely honest right now I prefer the Something_Smart wagon after that disaster of a series of posts, but I'm not bothered enough to switch unless it's a bigger wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Something_Smart

Actually, I am a little nervous that there's a sizable contingent of players who would lynch anything that moves just to get this game out of Day 1, but, again, I'm not moved enough to do anything about that. I'll maybe consider it after someone flips (would someone please flip).

Did I hear the words "bigger wagon"?

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Unvote, Vote: Something_Smart

Cheet with a strong opening bid, who will unseat him???

If this game gets to page 200 before we even lynch anyone, then I swear by all things that we will nuke Andrius just to end the game for everyone involved.

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Anyone. Really. Anyone.

It's obnoxious to have >60 pages to read... I've been pushing reading this thread to the side....

If you stopped writing tons of notes that become as outdated as textbooks at the thrift shop by the time you post them, then maybe reading will go a lot faster.

:flame:

P-Edit: Inb4 UT is SK who killed Fate to free up his nuke. :'D

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Uhhh the text didn't save. Bottom should have read "Cheet makes a strong opening bid. Who will unseat him???"

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So, I'm guessing that pseudo-confirms Guy as not-mafia? Pretty bad bus otherwise imo since there was a lot of resistance to the lynch prior to the counterclaim.

In other news, water is wet

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you know, people kept saying "SS won't get lynched today" and here we are

if you actually believe in GiF scum why don't you actually get out and push the wagon

or you could just play Cassandra I guess

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if you actually believe in GiF scum why don't you actually get out and push the wagon

Because even if I am right, GiF is more useful to us right now alive than dead.

And as long as that remains true, as long as regardless of his alignment he is more valuable alive than dead, he is not a lynch target nor a nuke target.

He was not blocked, so he can NEVER claim to be blocked in the game.
He cannot continue claiming to have investigated the nightkill, so he MUST make results at points which we can believe or disbelieve but which can always be tested. (For instance, if the serial killer kills someone he cleared, and that player flips mafia: he's a caught liar. So he's forced to claim innocents that are likely innocent.) If he claims a guilty which flips not guilty, he's a fucking liar. If he claims a guilty which flips guilty, yay go us. If he claims a guilty in a known lylo or mylo, lynch his fucking ass. If he lives even when the doctor is proven dead, he's lynched. If we ever get a scum doctor flip, lynch his fucking ass. If scum with a missile silo are lynched without nuking him (D3 or later), lynch his fucking ass. And as long as he lives, both he and whoever he clears are bait for the SK to kill, and also force the scum to kill, those names, to stop PoE from wrecking them.

This is all true of him if he is mafia.
And if I am wrong (which everyone here believes I am anyway), then he'd be town, and...well, no fucking shit letting the town cop live is beneficial.

So as I said.
He is above reproach.

He is, however, still scum.
So yes, I will continue to go Cassandra at y'all for as long as both he and I live.

okay

I think the trajectory leading to the claim is far more likely to come from town than scum. It seems to me that Gif was waiting to see if we would lynch SS anyway and when it seemed like we wouldn't he just dropped the counterclaim to keep us from mislynching

Seems to me that if this were a mafia ploy he would have just dropped the counterclaim sooner

I dunno. I just have a really hard time seeing his counterclaim as anything other than "OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE"

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Lol

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Martina is like a nexus through which everything in the game is the opposite

This is useful I think!

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hurray I'm confirmed town

Congraturation

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aw man we got to lynch before my nuke contest was over

who will win???

~mysteries~

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MoI YOUR BLOOD GOD CALLS.

SPYREX

UT

WE WILL BECOME KHORNE'S FIST

why don't we just use my nuke

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MoI YOUR BLOOD GOD CALLS.

SPYREX

UT

WE WILL BECOME KHORNE'S FIST

why don't we just use my nuke

No, you're nuking Reck.

I'm serious UT, next post, nuke Reck. Blood for the blood gods.

I'm going to at least wait to see what the sub hits

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vote EP

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UT where is ur nuke

also scum didn't get a kill last night wut

in the silo

remember how I promised to proxy my nuke to my townreads? I'm not just gonna say fuck you it's my hot body I do what I want

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fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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My sub is better than yours

damn right

it's better than yours

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Don't lynch before the sub hits

unvote

I want to get my nuke off if I'm gonna die

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God dammit I wheeled and dealer and traded my nuke for my life

I'm gonna fuckin use it goddamit

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God dammit I wheeled and dealer and traded my nuke for my life

I'm gonna fuckin use it goddamit

Keep an eye on the clock with the Sub shot (or shots I forget both lists) and make sure you have a target lined up before you may expire.

I'm on the second one only. The updated list comes tomorrow yeah?

Who do we like for SK? I'm SK hunting now since that motherfucker has a sub

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We're getting this motherfucker today

Heads together folks

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Fate called Reck SK and then died N1

Coincidence???????

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I have a hard time, though, seeing SK-Reck letting me live instead of going to for the slam dunk lynch D1

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Although maybe he wanted the chance to help direct YET ANOTHER nuke

maybe he is shooting me because he fears getting nuked eventually because he worries LLD would actually direct my nuke

Lot of maybes and a lot of circumstantials pointing at WRECKSK

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True but would you double down when the tides shifted

would I? I'm an unpredictable motherfucker. Hell yeah.

Reck? I dunno. Hard to say.

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It seems to me he stuck his neck out MORE by pulling back from the wagon

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Like, who starts a mislynch, pulls back just as it's about to go through, then sits on his hands while it happens? That looks sketchy as FUCK

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by my own analysis, yeah. with no further information though, it's a bit pointless to speculate on which one. we can maybe figure it out if some of those powers flip in mafia hands later on.

UT where is ur nuke

also scum didn't get a kill last night wut

in the silo

remember how I promised to proxy my nuke to my townreads? I'm not just gonna say fuck you it's my hot body I do what I want

oh fuck

Reck did you just fuck me

Did you

I'm gonna nuke you you son of a terrorist whore

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Uhhhh how'd the first quote get in there

Oh fuck I just realized

Terrorist took the silo and the sub

They're bunkered and subbing

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

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Zito did you shoot reck?

This is important for using our nukes effectively

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Didn't nuke already get nuked?

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*nukes intensify*

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Other townreads: my plan is to nuke Reck if the sub timer reveals that I'm in the 3. Is this a workable solution for you all?

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We might want to throw two nukes at him just in case

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Actually no, it's pending zito's flip

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Also, why hasn't Reck nuked me yet?

he can't. He took a silo in addition to the free SK pull and used the defensive option

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The only reason I want to wait is because there's the small chance that zito is actually the terrorist and I don't want to use the nuke now just to recall it

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NUKE: XRECKONERX

GET NUKED YOU FREEDOM HATING SON OF A BITCH

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I am so fucking hard right now

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I'm over here juicing lemons on my cock just because I can

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Someone else needs to throw a nuke at reck or zito

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vote mastin

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oh okay

call it off guys

Nahdia townread her

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an artist's depiction of me nuking Reck

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Reck: UT what do you have deployed
UT: A nuke

~immediately after~

A POOL OF PLAYERS INCLUDING UT HAS BEEN TARGETED BY THE SUB

come on man. how do you not see the trajectory there