DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Cheetory6]

Has anyone thrown around a townread on UT?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't actually think she is being particularly toxic?

She's not, actually. This is pretty tame from her. It's actually pretty impressive, really.

I mean, her insults are pretty revealing about her drawing scum, but that's nothing new.

You're joking.

You're actually joking.

Not only are you now using meta against me, but you're flat out wrong.

I fucking do this shit in every game I god damned play.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Has anyone thrown around a townread on UT?

I have a "I don't fucking know" read because the last time I town read UT was Justified mafia and I've still got scars.

But I'm not strictly scum reading him either SO

[Nukebringer]

Ok then, theory discussion time. What do we use Nukes for vs. What do we use Lynches for?

Lynches: Collective scum read
Nukes: Pet scum read

A lot of people are displeased with mastina but not enough are scum-reading her (or with enough passion) to justify it when there's a fine wagon on Something_Smart and Untrod Tripod.

Preview edit: Oh, you're not reading them as scum. Your push makes sense, at least.

[Untrod Tripod]

Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

Lol this post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

It's not the first post, its the way he reacted to pressure.

That first post was terrible on every level. It has all the hallmarks of a scum intro. It was awkward, it was trying to not be awkward it was forced and ugly and bleh.

But... the pressure put on him has caused him to lash out in a manner that feels town to me.

[mastina]

Mastin was always bad before but this game she's just kicked it up to new levels of terrible, and it makes me question what the motive for that ACTUALLY is, and I'm aware Mastin's given answer will be "I just want to troll" but Mastin seems to care a whole fucking lot for someone who is just trolling until they can nuke someone?

The justification for my actions lies in the mod's hand. I communicated them to him, and they'll be freely available to anyone who asks for them upon their death, at least they SHOULD be because that's what I specifically fucking asked him to do.
Suffice to say, though.

My answer is not "I just want to troll". I did not in fact go off the deep end. There's a plan. It is a very obvious one to those who have been paying attention. Subtlety has never been my thing. Like, ever.

[Untrod Tripod]

oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )

like seriously look at this ridiculous LOLIMSOCASUALLYTOWN monstrosity and tell me it's not bad nervous scum

please, LLD, for posterity I want you to do that

[Andrius]

VoteCount brought to you by

Untrod Tripod [8] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX, Fate
Something_Smart [7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh
Vaxkiller [1] - GreyICE
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller
mastina [1] - Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

It is now DEFCON 3. Day 1 will last until December 4th, 2016, at 13:00 hours.
COUNTDOWN: (expired on 2016-12-04 17:00:00)

Ser Arthur Dayne is V/LA until Friday.
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA this week.
Spiffeh is V/LA this week.
Papa Zito is V/LA this week.
Firebringer is V/LA this week.

[Untrod Tripod]

Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

It's not the first post, its the way he reacted to pressure.

That first post was terrible on every level. It has all the hallmarks of a scum intro. It was awkward, it was trying to not be awkward it was forced and ugly and bleh.

But... the pressure put on him has caused him to lash out in a manner that feels town to me.

dude game openings are the most revealing time for people. you can RELIABLY catch at least one scum in the first page or two with this shit

I do it literally every game

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mastin was always bad before but this game she's just kicked it up to new levels of terrible, and it makes me question what the motive for that ACTUALLY is, and I'm aware Mastin's given answer will be "I just want to troll" but Mastin seems to care a whole fucking lot for someone who is just trolling until they can nuke someone?

The justification for my actions lies in the mod's hand. I communicated them to him, and they'll be freely available to anyone who asks for them upon their death, at least they SHOULD be because that's what I specifically fucking asked him to do.
Suffice to say, though.

My answer is not "I just want to troll". I did not in fact go off the deep end. There's a plan. It is a very obvious one to those who have been paying attention. Subtlety has never been my thing. Like, ever.

...

fuck

[Cheetory6]

@UT

, can you talk about RECK and his read on you a bit?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.

This is a shallow way of looking at it. UT is entirely right that the opening to a game is one of the most vulnerable times for scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

dude game openings are the most revealing time for people. you can RELIABLY catch at least one scum in the first page or two with this shit

I do it literally every game

"I do it literally every game when I'm being run up for a lynch as scum".

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.

This is a shallow way of looking at it. UT is entirely right that the opening to a game is one of the most vulnerable times for scum.

I mean, if he caught it on page 3,

or 5, or 10, or anything that's not near page 100, sure.

But he's literally just using it now to scumread someone.

[Untrod Tripod]

Right but S_S is town.

how can you possibly look at their first post and say "yep, that's town"

Lol this post.

[Untrod Tripod]

It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.

This is a shallow way of looking at it. UT is entirely right that the opening to a game is one of the most vulnerable times for scum.

I mean, if he caught it on page 3,

or 5, or 10, or anything that's not near page 100, sure.

But he's literally just using it now to scumread someone.

Uhhhhh that's a no. I've been talking about how he needed to die since page 2.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I typically don't like tipping my hand to the scumteam as it is, in this game where I get to just fucking shoot them I'm even less inclined.

A man after my own heart.

I've been slammed lately, but I'm off work Wednesday-Sunday so I'll go back tonight and see what I've missed or skimmed. Off the top of my head though, I'm unsure why SS is getting a pass going into D1 considering that he hasn't done anything that made his first post(s) in the game less awful and his vote on my wagon was opportunistic and scummy as shit. mastina is still terrible and nukeworthy. Grey is town as fk. not a huge fan of Cheet's post right before this. Accountant is town.

vote SS

I still want this to die. I'm nuking it tomorrow, if I don't live that long someone else needs to nuke it.

> "I still want SS to die.
> First time mentioning Something Special in his life.

[Untrod Tripod]

and that's a complete non sequitar anyway. it's still D1 and it's not like his alignment has changed or something.

shit, even if it were like 3pLYLO it would still be a valid reason to want him to die

[mastina]

Except you're not doing anything but posting like a shitter and now ignoring my actual question in favour of answering a question that

was not directed to you

.

I mean.
That's not what I'm doing.
But okay. Let's say you believe that.

This is harder to justify.

Number of times Mastin has addressed the lack of any kind of focus she's given certain scum reads?

I've been focusing quite a bit of attention on my scumreads. In particular the two I most want to lynch: UT and Ircher. Side of RC. You're my largest scumread, but I don't hold hope for lynching you, and I've got a nuke so I can just let that loose the moment we get to D3 and the only ways to stop me are by a nightkill or by the sub (which is most likely in scum's hands) or by mustering a lynch prior to that point.

Number of times Mastin has talked aboout how she's a bad player or some other self referential bullshit? Too many to count

Actually rather explicitly I've denied being a shitty player, and that the idea I would legit let myself be one is laughable. There's a method to my madness. Madness in said method, sure. I knew the moment I began this strategy there was inherent to it a risk exceeding this game. A small risk would be contained to just this game, but the plan I developed could have long-lasting consequences to me even AFTER this game has finished. I know what I'm doing though.

[Untrod Tripod]

> "I still want SS to die.
> First time mentioning Something Special in his life.

Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

is that so?

[Untrod Tripod]

Three smileys and a declaration of town
Dont know if i can trust you with a nuke there boy

yeahhhhhhhh that's gettin nuked maybe even before the hydra

Woah. Woah.

look at the smileys again

for bonus smiley action!

[xRECKONERx]

Right but S_S is town.

And I have no idea what to think about UT, because it's essentially a Reck vanity wagon.

this is basically true

also UT just donated to my gofundme so he gets a pass for today, sorry folks

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