DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Cephrir]

...so why aren't you voting him?

At the moment, I'm not because I admit it's a considerable risk, and even when I have a strong read, I doubt myself because that's what I do. Even if I look confident, most of the time I'm not, and I hate feeling stupid, which is what would happen if I turned out to be wrong. On the other hand, mislynching you instead because someone used the word optimal and that triggers me wouldn't be much better.

You would think my previous observations that I actually scumhunt fairly well when I allow myself to act more confident than I really feel would have changed this by now.

[Cephrir]

I suppose there's a reasonable chance town-cop SS gets roleblocked to hell here anyway. And when we talk about optimality, we've been leaving out the change in EV from both having a town lynch and not having a scum lynch to examine and use.

[Cephrir]

Do we think that scum allowed Vax and SS to both get run up as both scum? If they're both scum, then scum should probably have been doing everything in their power to prevent this SS wagon.

Not really a question for today, though.

[Cephrir]

VOTE: S_S

i'll probably change this in an hour when i start feeling bad about it

[McMenno]

Also prob should guide the cop investigation via like 3 options that Something Special picks out of.

agreed, and i think pretty much all discussion should be about this from this point on until a UT lynch.
something like coyote, nahdia, nukebringer

I volunteer

and lynch ut not ss tia

[GuyInFreezer]

No vote SS for justice

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nukebringer
RC
Zito

seems like good list for Something Special investigation

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Do we think that scum allowed Vax and SS to both get run up as both scum? If they're both scum, then scum should probably have been doing everything in their power to prevent this SS wagon.

I mean if one of them is scum I would lean much more heavily towards Something Special.

Sorry but like his cop claim was bad. Plus the fact his opening post said something about sheeping I don't see him as putting cop first.

All that said it's still the right move not to lynch him just yet.

[Untrod Tripod]

you're so close

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I volunteer to be investigated

[GreyICE]

I volunteer to be investigated

...

Did you just claim SK

[GreyICE]

'cause it feels like you just claimed SK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

People have a hard time reading me and are currently incorrectly reading me.

I'm more than happy to be an investigation target, given how polarizing I can be.

[GreyICE]

Yeah but like motivation

Town want to find scum. Getting investigated doesn't find scum
Scum want to not be found. Getting investigated doesn't help that
SK wants to survive. A result of "not-mafia" helps.

And like... man, normally when you're polarizing you just tell them to go dunk their heads in the nearest magma flow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've already mentioned I don't care how people read me.

That being said, I have ~super secret reasons~ for wanting to be investigated, that are worth people like you being paranoid about me being an SK over.

[GreyICE]

Given all role PMs are open, there aren't actually any sekret reasons.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Given that who may or may not have won a deployment isn't, reasons still stand.

[GreyICE]

But I can read all the possible deployments. You're just blowing smoke.

Vote: LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Would you like me to claim my deployment?

Cause I can.

It's really funny.

[Accountant]

Why should I take LLD's super secret reason any more seriously than mastina's claims that everything she's done has been part of a grand plan

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, why would I ever volunteer to be searched as SK.

I can tell you what optimal play for SK me is really easily.

Grab immunity to night kills, grab immunity to nukes, focus on not being lynched, don't care about other powers.

[Untrod Tripod]

probably because you're not dumb and know he is fakeclaiming scum and therefore would just say "yeah LLD is town"

wtf dude

[Lady Lambdadelta]

probably because you're not dumb and know he is fakeclaiming scum and therefore would just say "yeah LLD is town"

wtf dude

That wasn't an invitation for just our claimed person to do it.

I fully endorsed any potentially unclaimed cops to ALSO investigate me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, his results will be meaningless until he's dead, as it should be.

That's not the point.

[Cephrir]

Yeah but like motivation

Town want to find scum. Getting investigated doesn't find scum
Scum want to not be found. Getting investigated doesn't help that
SK wants to survive. A result of "not-mafia" helps.

And like... man, normally when you're polarizing you just tell them to go dunk their heads in the nearest magma flow.

The cop can investigate for town/not town can't it