DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Untrod Tripod]

Espionage: Knowing is half the battle, and when a nation needs to know, it relies on its clandestine organizations like the CIA or MI6 to get the job done. {Each night, you may target a player and choose a faction you are NOT aligned with. I will reveal to you whether that player is aligned with that faction or not.}

I swear to christ this seriously is not that hard to look up

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Again, I don't understand why an SK would ever ask to be investigated.

lol

[SpyreX]

I said 150 just remember.

Well the sk is pretty much a gf here so that could be why. That said its pretty moot.

[SpyreX]

That said ss lives for now

VOTE: mastina

This is until i can hammer

[Ircher]

I've already mentioned I don't care how people read me.

That being said, I have ~super secret reasons~ for wanting to be investigated, that are worth people like you being paranoid about me being an SK over.

Reveal your reasons.

[Spiffeh]

@Spiffeh, Cheetory, Reck: What are your thoughts on mastina?

town

[Fate]

Espionage you say?

WEllwelwlewlelwewlel

as tempted as I am to keep on down the line

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

That being said, I have ~super secret reasons~ for wanting to be investigated, that are worth people like you being paranoid about me being an SK over.

What.

The cop has to pick an alignment and only investigates for that alignment/not that alignment.

We need the cop to investigate for mafia.

If we get no mafia on you you can still be the SK...

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yeah but like motivation

Town want to find scum. Getting investigated doesn't find scum
Scum want to not be found. Getting investigated doesn't help that
SK wants to survive. A result of "not-mafia" helps.

And like... man, normally when you're polarizing you just tell them to go dunk their heads in the nearest magma flow.

The cop can investigate for town/not town can't it

No it can't you have to pick an alignment that's not your own.

So a TOWN cop can only choose to search for mafia/not mafia, or SK/not SK.

[Spiffeh]

omg someone nuke EP's brains out please

[Ircher]

Lambdelta is starting to look suspicious...

FoS Lamb

Pretty sure Lamb is the Terrorist by the way she's acting, but not definite....

[Spiffeh]

I would do it myself but my nuke priorities are elsewhere

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I would do it myself but my nuke priorities are elsewhere

Same sorry...

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

Not convinced S_S is town for that claim but there's no reason to lynch him now

If he's scum he can be nuked for not being dead by phase 3 and we might even get some crossfire

If he's town scum/terrorist will want him removed and use up a nightkill on him that would otherwise go to a more obvtown and influential player

[Fate]

VOTE: UT

[Spiffeh]

I'd vote UT to end this godforsaken day but I'm not entirely confident he's flipping scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thought exercise:

Given that cop works how it does, what are the motivations for a terrorist to ask to be investigated?

Especially when asking to be investigated in an inherently odd thing to do that will always draw attention?

[Spiffeh]

What do people think of GI

Because I think he might be scum and he's probably the most overlooked player itg right now

[Spiffeh]

SAD

MoI is town please don't nuke him

[Ircher]

Thought exercise:

Given that cop works how it does, what are the motivations for a terrorist to ask to be investigated?

Especially when asking to be investigated in an inherently odd thing to do that will always draw attention?

That's no thought exercise -- people already explained why a Terrorist wants to be investigated: a "Not Mafia" result does not implicate them and may help them survive longer. We aren't Terrorist hunting right now; we're scumhunting right now, as in main faction mafia. You just one to slither your way to endgame on a free pass, and it isn't gonna escape our notice, so you can stop trying.

HoS Lady Lambdelta

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nukebringer
RC
Zito

seems like good list for Something Special investigation

Does anyone have a problem with this list???

Otherwise I want a result on one of those 3 people tomorrow from Something Special.

I need the

FIGHTER

to target

Something Special

. If he has anything other than cop, you claim tomorrow in your first post. If he has cop you be quiet and not claim. If everyone has posted and no claim, then we assume either fighter is scum, both something special and fighter is scum, or something special is town cop.

We need

RADAR

to target

Nahdia

. If she targets any player at all, you are to claim in your first post. Otherwise we assume Nahdia didn't target anyone, or that Radar and/or Nahdia is scum.

Nahdia

, if you are town, don't use your ability.

Something Special

, you are to investigate one of the people above (unless people want the list modified) and give a result your first post. If you are roleblocked you say that in your first post.

[Andrius]

VoteCount

Untrod Tripod [10] - mastina, Ser Arthur Dayne, Nahdia, McMenno, hiplop, ErrantParabola, Ircher, Something_Smart, Vaxkiller, Fate
Something_Smart [7] - RedCoyote, Untrod Tripod, GuyInFreezer, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Cephrir
mastina [3] - Lady Lambdadelta, Papa Zito, SpyreX
Lady Lambdadelta [1] - GreyICE

Not Voting [3] - xRECKONERx, Cheetory6, Spiffeh

With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

It is now DEFCON 3. Day 1 will last until December 4th, 2016, at 13:00 hours.
COUNTDOWN: (expired on 2016-12-04 17:00:00)

RedCoyote is V/LA until Sunday(ish).
MagnaofIllusion is V/LA this week.
Spiffeh is V/LA this week.
Papa Zito is V/LA this week.
Firebringer is V/LA this week.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thought exercise:

Given that cop works how it does, what are the motivations for a terrorist to ask to be investigated?

Especially when asking to be investigated in an inherently odd thing to do that will always draw attention?

That's no thought exercise -- people already explained why a Terrorist wants to be investigated: a "Not Mafia" result does not implicate them and may help them survive longer. We aren't Terrorist hunting right now; we're scumhunting right now, as in main faction mafia. You just one to slither your way to endgame on a free pass, and it isn't gonna escape our notice, so you can stop trying.

HoS Lady Lambdelta

Except it's

Prima Facie [/b] That a not mafia result doesn't exonerate someone from being a terrorist. So arguing that this is a reason why they'd ask for that is dumb.

Like "saying that allow you to slink into late game" is hilarious GIVEN WHO I AM.

[Spiffeh]

uhhhhh why would scum be more likely to try to stay alive than town? scum are more likely to just lay down and die, or to allow others to defend them, than town because it can be part of a larger plan to paint buddies and town and paint enemies as scum. what you're claiming is a complete opposite of "what is more likely"

but your contributions to the game thusfar have been just vomit and nonsense so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised by that analysis!

lol this is very wrong

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'd vote UT to end this godforsaken day but I'm not entirely confident he's flipping scum

See the thing is,

I don't want any more claims today

UT is reasonably suspicious to a lot of people

And he doesn't have a role.

I don't really see a way around not lynching him today.