DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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Dunno man annoying ppl just lead to lolnuke.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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Also is it bad if I want to read ppl who wanted SS dead post-claim not russian?Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae-
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Nukebringer Goon
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last thing i did was tell lld she was wrong.In post 3348, Cheetory6 wrote:It feels like it's been a century since you did something.
>:(
What's the last game-related thing you did?
Do you think your voting record with S_S flip looks good?
I don't know how my voting record looks? Equinox told me both S_S and UT were good votes during last day and just wanted to quickly end it.Would you like to play a game?
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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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Let's do a "not-Russia" list.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae-
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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No explanation required, just names.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae-
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Nukebringer Goon
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me? I think i should be read as null. Though I do think my little outburst with lld was something i would only do as town, meh.In post 3353, Cheetory6 wrote:That's not really game-related.
And it's the last thing I remember you doing too.
Do you really think that should be read as anything other than null?
Equinox should be read as something.Would you like to play a game?
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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Nukebringer Goon
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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In post 3358, Nukebringer wrote:i am not following the current wagon on SAD at all, would someone enlighten me here?In post 3251, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So let’s have a look at how strongly SAD works Day 1 to protect SomethingSmart shall we?
SAD’s response to SS’s scummy opening. But wait for it …In post 307, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I'm dayvigging the shit out of you.In post 26, Something_Smart wrote:oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )
In post 485, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Why is MoI going after low hanging fruit.
Oh look – the second someone voices suspicion of SS suddenly he’s “Low hanging fruit”. Funny that a great person to Nuke suddenly is Town simply because they were getting suspicion.In post 486, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Something Smart is probably town.
And the Town read (with no reasons for such) continues …In post 519, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:PAPAZITO IS TOWN
CHEETORY666 IS TOWN
Something Special and Reck leaning town.
Note the SAD is acknowledging that SS’s posts were worth pressure but everyone who pressured him is suspect. Nice little dichotomy.In post 601, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:You were making hella awkward posts though I needed to PRESSURE you like others did for Something Special.
Now you're both in the VI category of low hanging fruit that are prob town.
Now I will SET MY TRAP CARD:
To see who goes for the low hanging fruit.
MoI and Ceph have already fell into it.
STREEETTTCCCHHHING to justify that Something Smart’s posts were a reason to Town read him.In post 611, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Well they usually lean town if they're making VI yet genuine sounding posts.In post 603, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because low hanging fruit != town.
Which both Something Special and Nahdia are doing.
Oh look – terrible reasoning to further justify his “genuine” read on SS’s posts.In post 622, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
^ This sounded genuine.In post 405, Something_Smart wrote:re: the setup, I'll think about that when it's not 2 am.
I think scum would have already discussed the setup in their private thread and most of them have already formed opinions about it.
So if scum were asked, even if they have have not formed a strong opinion themselves they would have leaned one way or another due to the amount of discussion regarding the setup in the private thread.
Now obv that's assuming scum discussed the setup, but I strongly believe in that and willing to go on that assumption.
To quote DJ Khalid – and another one …In post 625, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Actually take this response on a whole:
What's easier for scum:In post 405, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: For
good questionIn post 121, Cheetory6 wrote:Something_Smart.
Can you give some thoughts on the setup or some reads?
re: the setup, I'll think about that when it's not 2 am.
re: reads, initial feelings say:
towny: Cheetory, mastina, UT, MoI, Spiffeh
scummy: Nukebringer, GiF, Cephrir
conflicting feelings: RC, LLD, Nahdia
discussion tabled for now- Reck
To give thoughts on the setup
Or to give reads.
I think theorizing about the setup or giving your opinion about it etc is much much easier for scum seeing as they have other people who they've already talked to or seen talking about the setup.
The fact that he skips the setup question and answers the reads question just reads super genuine and townie.
And here we see throwing shade at GiF to suggest that his suspicion of SS is bad – classic chain-sawing.In post 639, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:What do you think about what I said about Something Special?
Do you see it as genuine, someone who sincerely hasn't given much thought/bothered with the setup (because I can assure you scum would have much more thought about the setup - so your only two options really are that it reads genuine or that he faked not having any thoughts about the setup)?
Do you disagree that he went after something that is more dangerous when he could've went with the easier route?
And is this:
You only reasoning for your scumread?In post 78, GuyInFreezer wrote:
^In post 26, Something_Smart wrote:oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )
RED EVERYWHERE IN THIS POST
Pedit: @GIF
And yet another defense of how Town SS was.In post 700, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:How are you guys gonna strawman this hard:
He admits he didn't intend for it to be a reaction test, he just happened to be looking at the reactions that it stirred up. I don't see the problem with that?In post 415, Something_Smart wrote:
what's your point? obviously it wasn't intended to produce reactions. that doesn't mean I can't look at the reactions it did produce.In post 412, Accountant wrote:
>being flippant to dodge the point I madeIn post 409, Something_Smart wrote:every post is a reaction test if you think about it the right way
I lolled hard when I got to this part of his ISO.In post 774, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:MoI your whole interaction with Something Special is really
really
really
fucking forced.
Oh look one Red Commie Scum flip in this Town and a Blue True American flip in his Null reads. This will be useful for further dissection when SAD flips scum.In post 1015, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Cheetory, Something Special, ReckIn post 1012, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So SAD - why don't you clearly give us a scum read list and any Town reads you might have?
Accountant, Mastina, Zito, Greyice, Nahdia
Mcmenno, EP, Vax, UT, Fate, Cephrir, hiplop, Nukebringer, RC, lrcher
Spyrex, MoI, LLD, GIF, Spiffeh
In post 2441, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I mean, if he caught it on page 3,In post 2439, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
This is a shallow way of looking at it. UT is entirely right that the opening to a game is one of the most vulnerable times for scum.In post 2436, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:It has been 96 pages since Something Special's first post and UT wants to use it now to scumread him and want him lynched.
or 5, or 10, or anything that's not near page 100, sure.
But he's literally just using it now to scumread someone.
Cut to much later where SAD is still chainsawing at anyone who suspects SS.In post 2444, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
> "I still want SS to die.In post 1899, Untrod Tripod wrote:
A man after my own heart.In post 1878, Papa Zito wrote:I typically don't like tipping my hand to the scumteam as it is, in this game where I get to just fucking shoot them I'm even less inclined.
I've been slammed lately, but I'm off work Wednesday-Sunday so I'll go back tonight and see what I've missed or skimmed. Off the top of my head though, I'm unsure why SS is getting a pass going into D1 considering that he hasn't done anything that made his first post(s) in the game less awful and his vote on my wagon was opportunistic and scummy as shit. mastina is still terrible and nukeworthy. Grey is town as fk. not a huge fan of Cheet's post right before this. Accountant is town.
vote SSI still want this to die. I'm nuking it tomorrow, if I don't live that long someone else needs to nuke it.
> First time mentioning Something Special in his life.
LOL.In post 2525, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Zzzz Something Special's wagon looks like a disaster of a lynch waiting to happen.
Got to give him credit for balls calling my vote for someone he’s been calling me scum for suspecting as “without good reasons”.In post 2758, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Congrats you have jumped on all 3 leading wagons without good reasons.
In post 2760, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Here is where I'm at currently before end of Day1
Reck, Mastina, lrcher, Something Special,
Cheetory, Nahdia, Accountant, Greyice, Cephrir, hiplop, Spiffeh
Zito, Mcmenno, Nukebringer, RC, Fate, EP
Vaxkiller, Spyrex, GIF
UT, MoI, LLD
Need to evaluate some of those reads esp like tier 2 and 4 cuz I have faint memories of some of the slots. And need to actually put in the ~effort~ to pay attention to and prob reread some of the null slots.In post 2761, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Claim asap tia.In post 2706, Something_Smart wrote:prodge because thanksgiving, etcIf you don’t see a pre-planned sequence here I can’t help you. It could not be more obvious that SAD knew the Cop claim was coming and wanted to make sure it didn’t get counter-claimed to save his buddy.
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Nukebringer Goon
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Fate :HAPPY:
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Not to worry, I have a foolproof method of proving I am town, and that is...my activity! Because, you see...I did not log into mastina at all between the time of the lynch and the time of day start! And clearly, that means there is no POSSIBLE way I am scum.In post 3174, Cheetory6 wrote:I feel really stupid saying this, but mastina's out of my townreads with S_S being scum :/
Clearly. Because surely not logging onto mastina is proof that I could in no way whatsoever be scum!-
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MagnaofIllusion has been killed Night 1
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Lol. Just Lol.In post 3362, mastina wrote:Not to worry, I have a foolproof method of proving I am town, and that is...my activity! Because, you see...I did not log into mastina at all between the time of the lynch and the time of day start! And clearly, that means there is no POSSIBLE way I am scum.
Clearly. Because surely not logging onto mastina is proof that I could in no way whatsoever be scum!"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Last night was terrorist right? This makes no sense but is total assholes
I think we need a wise young buck to do an analysis on the wagon jump. Theres at least one jumper who fled fast-
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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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My best guess outside of random is Reck.In post 3364, SpyreX wrote:Last night was terrorist right? This makes no sense but is total assholesKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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My thoughts on the matter of your counterclaim is that there is--at MINIMUM--a 50% chance you are pulling the move from my mini normal, by being the townier scum player who ACTUALLY has the cop, counterclaiming the scummier scumbuddy who was a goon, and that by having done so, you have earned immunity to scrutiny allowing you to coast for the rest of the game.In post 3186, GuyInFreezer wrote:I'm waiting for mastina to post.
However, my thoughts are also that nobody gives a damn about my thoughts, so it's irrelevant. And even if for some unfathomable reason, someone did care about my opinion here and take it seriously, then my stance on the matter is that you have immunity for the same reason I would have granted immunity to Something_smart: regardless of whether that theory of mine is right or wrong, you remain an asset to the town. Town, scum, doesn't matter. You are above reproach because of your role.-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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^By the way.In post 3192, Papa Zito wrote:FFS you guys were supposed to have lynched someone while I was gone. Now I have to read a bunch of nonsense.
Justsayin'.
All of Zito's posts around here are pure scumposting.
Thought I'd let you know.-
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Spiffeh He/HimParagoneHe/Him
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In post 2387, Spiffeh wrote:Firebringer continues to claim scum-
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they aren'tIn post 3370, mastina wrote:
^By the way.In post 3192, Papa Zito wrote:FFS you guys were supposed to have lynched someone while I was gone. Now I have to read a bunch of nonsense.
Justsayin'.
All of Zito's posts around here are pure scumposting.
Thought I'd let you know."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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In post 931, Cephrir wrote:
im gonna be real with youIn post 928, Spiffeh wrote:Firebringer not reevaluating his read on me after proving his earlier reason for scum reading me wrong is a scum claim
In case anyone was wondering
im not reading your argument and i don't give a fuck about it because there's too much meta"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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How would scum Nahdia know that and be confident enough to claim it as soon as possible?In post 3337, Papa Zito wrote:
If someone would that'd be great.In post 3335, Cephrir wrote:
Counterintelligence is such a weak role for town that it would definitely counterclaim.In post 3333, Papa Zito wrote:Because she knows her team didn't draw cop and she doesn't want to be investigated.
I'm not entirely convinced that all the roles were taken tho given that our source for that particular bit of info is...mastin.
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