DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Nukebringer]

Firebringer continues to claim scum

go on......

[Nukebringer]

i actually don't really agree with that case on SAD:
UNVOTE:

[mastina]

not being able to read you makes me an idiot or a terrorist?

Yes.
You're not groupscum.

However, you had a read on me before and now you're claiming you don't. When I've only made it MORE obvious I'm town, rather than less.

So either you're an idiot (because you'd have put absolutely zero thought into finding my alignment), which I'm increasingly not believing because you're not someone I really buy as being an idiot...
...Or you're the terrorist, playing something which is more convenient to your agenda.

Saying you can't read me is more convenient for an anti-town perspective because it lets you basically do whatever the fuck you want. It means you can avoid taking a firm stance one way or another, and yet you can also take a stance wherever you feel you need to: pandering to the mastina defenders, pandering to me, pandering to the mastina attackers, with your stance of not being able to read me you can do literally any of the three.

Thus, terrorist. But also not important because I don't give a fuck about hunting for a terrorist. You're not groupscum, so you're not someone I hold any interest in pursuing.

[Spiffeh]

Ceph have you read his posts today?

Also I don't know why you felt the need to respond to me with that again when I believe my answer last time was "you don't have to care I'm nuking him anyway"

[Nukebringer]

@Spiffeh

Firebringer continues to claim scum

go on......

[mastina]

fate nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Couple of quick things, by the way.
One this is a bad post.
Two, Fate is exactly the kill Reck would make as the serial killer.

If Reck claims otherwise, he's a fucking liar.
Now granted.
Reck is not the

only

player here who would kill Fate as the terrorist.
In fact I'm pretty sure over half the damn playerlist (myself included) would kill Fate N1 as the terrorist.

But Reck is among that pool.
Though, again: not a current issue.

We're hunting scum, not the SK.
And speaking of scum...
VOTE: Red Coyote.

[Cheetory6]

You're getting very nuked on D3 if SAD is scum mastin.
:/

[mastina]

I investigated Fate. He was not with Russians. Unfortunately, we all know that already.

When GiF flips scum with the cop, I am going to LORD this over you.
This is such a damn scumclaim of an investigation it's not even funny.

But oh well.

His time will come.

[Cephrir]

Ceph have you read his posts today?

Also I don't know why you felt the need to respond to me with that again when I believe my answer last time was "you don't have to care I'm nuking him anyway"

yeah fire's are mediocre equinox seems fine

i don't understand why you have such a hardon for this, cheet has good reasons for the read that i understand and agree with and you mostly just keep yelling about it and trying to convince them they're scum

im not saying you need to convince me in this setup but i dont think its reasonable to expect anyone to be convinced by your yelling about it at which point why bother?

[Cephrir]

fate nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Couple of quick things, by the way.
One this is a bad post.
Two, Fate is exactly the kill Reck would make as the serial killer.

If Reck claims otherwise, he's a fucking liar.
Now granted.
Reck is not the

only

player here who would kill Fate as the terrorist.
In fact I'm pretty sure over half the damn playerlist (myself included) would kill Fate N1 as the terrorist.

But Reck is among that pool.
Though, again: not a current issue.

We're hunting scum, not the SK.
And speaking of scum...
VOTE: Red Coyote.

hello have you read my post touching on this today what do you think about it

[Cephrir]

I investigated Fate. He was not with Russians. Unfortunately, we all know that already.

When GiF flips scum with the cop, I am going to LORD this over you.
This is such a damn scumclaim of an investigation it's not even funny.

But oh well.

His time will come.

i think it's pretty much completely fine and strongly doubt that half the playerlist would make that kill

[Nukebringer]

I am stabbing the face of the next person who decides to talk about ancient history rather than the spectacular now.

[Cheetory6]

Are you going to stab someone at night?
With a stealth bomber?

[Nukebringer]

When GiF flips scum with the cop, I am going to LORD this over you.
This is such a damn scumclaim of an investigation it's not even funny.

But oh well.

His time will come.

Why would GuyInFreezer counterclaim his own buddy?

[MagnaofIllusion]

So looking at wagon movement at the important moments. and such I have the following initial thoughts –

Gif, Untrod, Cheet, RC and Accountant have movement patterns I think look pretty Town.

Spiffeh and Spyrex have so-so patterns. Nothing great but nothing terrible.

Nukebringer and GreyICE have votes that look very much like bussing if it was happening.

Those who either never voted SS in the period or didn’t stay on long enough to hit a vote-count:

PZ, McMenno, LLD, mastina, Reck, EP, Vax, SAD, hiplop, Nahdia, Ircher

Of those I want SAD terminated today and only think PZ looks fairly good on the basis of the rest of his play to be excluded from the Nukeable pool. I’m most interested in looking at EP and Ircher in ISO.

[Nukebringer]

Are you going to stab someone at night?
With a stealth bomber?

Stealth bombers can't stab, you silly goose.

[mastina]

I'm kind of upset that mastina might be scum if SAD is scum.

Fortunately for you that's never happening!

[Cephrir]

I'm kind of upset that mastina might be scum if SAD is scum.

Fortunately for you that's never happening!

are you reading anything at all or just blindly re-spouting whatever reads you had yesterday

[mastina]

Skimming for now, but I am having a hard time buying that Ser Arthur Dayne would try to save Something_Smart that hard when it would've been easier to bus the guy.
That mastina wagon was shit, however.

The closest I have to a reason for suspecting Nukebringer is that I am not only one, agreeing with Firebringer, but two, that he would defend me.

...All the same. He's totally right here.

Something_smart is NOT a scumbuddy you hardcore defend, and ANYONE who thinks otherwise is a complete and total fucking moron.
Any scumbuddies defending S_s are going to have done it soft: "Hey, why is there this S_s wagon, can someone explain it to me?". The like.
Also people who waffled. "This S_s wagon is okay, but I also like this other wagon (which is on town) just as much". That too.

Bussing Something_smart was ridiculously easy. ESPECIALLY post-claim.
Town did not know Something_smart was lying.
Scum did.

So the third and final place to look for scum is in those who pushed Something_smart even

harder

post-cop-claim.

[Cephrir]

moi you forgot me :'(

[xRECKONERx]

not being able to read you makes me an idiot or a terrorist?

Yes.
You're not groupscum.

However, you had a read on me before and now you're claiming you don't. When I've only made it MORE obvious I'm town, rather than less.

So either you're an idiot (because you'd have put absolutely zero thought into finding my alignment), which I'm increasingly not believing because you're not someone I really buy as being an idiot...
...Or you're the terrorist, playing something which is more convenient to your agenda.

Saying you can't read me is more convenient for an anti-town perspective because it lets you basically do whatever the fuck you want. It means you can avoid taking a firm stance one way or another, and yet you can also take a stance wherever you feel you need to: pandering to the mastina defenders, pandering to me, pandering to the mastina attackers, with your stance of not being able to read me you can do literally any of the three.

Thus, terrorist. But also not important because I don't give a fuck about hunting for a terrorist. You're not groupscum, so you're not someone I hold any interest in pursuing.

Wait a minute

hold

the

fucking

phone

you mean........................................................................................................READS CHANGE SOMETIMES!?!???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck me

what
a

fucking

revelation

[xRECKONERx]

me early on: "i dont think mastin is this dumb/moronic as scum"
me later: "jesus christ idfk what mastin's doing i cant read her"

mastin: "YOU MUST BE NOT TOWN BECAUSE READS DONT CHANGE"

~fin~

[MagnaofIllusion]

moi you forgot me :'(

Yeah sorry. You are in my "Town looking voting pattern". I'm guessing in all my back and forth movement of names you got swallowed since you and Cheet are similar enough ...

[MagnaofIllusion]

The closest I have to a reason for suspecting Nukebringer is that I am not only one, agreeing with Firebringer, but two, that he would defend me.

...All the same. He's totally right here.

Something_smart is NOT a scumbuddy you hardcore defend, and ANYONE who thinks otherwise is a complete and total fucking moron.

Well given you were dead wrong on Something and your defense was second only to SAD's which way should I go -

That your reads are garbage and should be ignored as Town / Terrorist?

or

You are scum making a self-serving "I'd have bussed SS" argument even thought you are completely anti-bussing historically?

[Cephrir]

we seem to like forgetting that this setup discourages bussing pre-nukes