DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cause

Get on the train

why oh why must mastina die

Do you

really

want a slot that's playing that badly to stay in the game?

oh okay

call it off guys

Nahdia townread her

Who fucking cares.

literally the best.

[Nahdia]

lmao

[Untrod Tripod]

an artist's depiction of me nuking Reck

[Errantparabola]

but gif targeted fate and hiplop targeted no one

well that's completely fucking useless.

why'd you target the guy who claimed espionage?

im sorry.
i really am genuinely sorry.
i dont have an explanation other than yeah ive been disconnected from this game because it just sort of snowballed out of my control in the early game, and now its difficult to get it back to a place where i fully grasp things that are happening. i will continue to argue that that is not relevant to my alignment at all, but its probably futile now.
im just a burden to this town anyway whatever

[Nahdia]

i mean, it's better than submitting nothing! and GiF probably isn't punking us unless he actually made the kill, but in that case i'd expect him to check someone else if he was scum, to SK hunt. so i mean it's something.

[xRECKONERx]

Other townreads: my plan is to nuke Reck if the sub timer reveals that I'm in the 3. Is this a workable solution for you all?

don't do it

im not the sub i swear!

[xRECKONERx]

NUKE: XRECKONERX

GET NUKED YOU FREEDOM HATING SON OF A BITCH

ut plz

[xRECKONERx]

well since UT's scumass nuked me

i have the aircraft carrier

used it on UT n1 and LLD n2

no kill last night is why im voting LLD currently bc based on nahdia's analysis i have a 1/3 shot of being the one who stopped the kill

[xRECKONERx]

UT cancel your nuke or you're claiming scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So what you're saying is, I'm proven not to be the terrorist?

Because the terrorist killed a scum last night?

Cool.

GIF, please investigate me tonight.

[xRECKONERx]

i suppose that's an accurate interpretation of the data, yes

can whoever has the SMD please intercept UT's nuke now

[xRECKONERx]

@MOD: Does the SMD intercept sub?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh and ACC doesn't preclude you from being scum/terrorist.

So I say let the nuke ride, bby.

[xRECKONERx]

i mean i clearly was breadcrumbing earlier that i thought i stopped the scum kill

dont think that comes from scum/terrorist

oh look self meta

[Nahdia]

Considering GiF has gotten checks both nights and I'm holding Counterintel, I think RECK is likely town if he's unCC'd.

[Andrius]

@MOD: Does the SMD intercept sub?

It can. Remember that SMD targets the attacker, not the victim.

[xRECKONERx]

things i don't do in this game if im scum:

- call S_S town off of his first post and open myself up by linking myself to newbmoron scum
- kill fate n1
- vote against total war
- not bus spiffeh

^ call it self meta if you want but im not idiotic enough to hard defend my scumbuddy based on a fluff post d1 especially when that scumbuddy is clearly an idiot. and i definitely don't kill fate n1 when UT has a better track record of reading me as scum (fate has literally never correctly read me as scum to my knowledge). and i certainly don't prolong total war when im notoriously bad at d1 shit anyway and it's when i'd be at my weakest. AND AND spiffeh would've been primo reckbus material, and i definitely wouldn't have let him plan to call me half of a town v town because it would drive me up a wall

things S_S/Spiffeh did that make me less likely to be scum

- spiffeh said me v accountant was town v town
- spiffeh's interactions w/ me in general were blindly calling me town in an attempt to enter my blind spot
- S_S had me listed as "reevaluate later" under his reads for most of the game

^ none of this looks like deliberate scum positioning with knowledge i am their buddy

[xRECKONERx]

Considering GiF has gotten checks both nights and I'm holding Counterintel, I think RECK is likely town if he's unCC'd.

this too

i'd be ACCing the fuck out of GiF if i wasnt town

@MOD: Does the SMD intercept sub?

It can. Remember that SMD targets the attacker, not the victim.

okay, so like, SMD can either save me here or try to target blindly into the masses and kill off one of the sub strikes

really though I think I'm pretty valuable as town considering I have the ACC and i think there's enough shit here to show that i'm definitely not group scum

i don't really know how to process the idea that I'm SK, other than saying "if you think id take ACC as SK then you're fucking high" i guess

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Considering GiF has gotten checks both nights and I'm holding Counterintel, I think RECK is likely town if he's unCC'd.

1) GiF has publically stated they will not be checking for SK.
2) Reck is unlikely to be scum since it's likely he genuinely believes he stopped a scum kill.
3) Ergo, if Reck is SK and has nothing to fear from leaving GiF unchecked for now, why would he roleblock her over trying to roleblock someone that could actually kill him.

Your logic functions to agree that Reck is unlikely to be a scum ACC. That being said, Reck was almost certainly never being scum aligned anyway.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Considering GiF has gotten checks both nights and I'm holding Counterintel, I think RECK is likely town if he's unCC'd.

this too

i'd be ACCing the fuck out of GiF if i wasnt town

@MOD: Does the SMD intercept sub?

It can. Remember that SMD targets the attacker, not the victim.

okay, so like, SMD can either save me here or try to target blindly into the masses and kill off one of the sub strikes

really though I think I'm pretty valuable as town considering I have the ACC and i think there's enough shit here to show that i'm definitely not group scum

i don't really know how to process the idea that I'm SK, other than saying "if you think id take ACC as SK then you're fucking high" i guess

Not if you're third party......

[Lady Lambdadelta]

things i don't do in this game if im scum:

- call S_S town off of his first post and open myself up by linking myself to newbmoron scum
- kill fate n1
- vote against total war
- not bus spiffeh

^ call it self meta if you want but im not idiotic enough to hard defend my scumbuddy based on a fluff post d1 especially when that scumbuddy is clearly an idiot. and i definitely don't kill fate n1 when UT has a better track record of reading me as scum (fate has literally never correctly read me as scum to my knowledge). and i certainly don't prolong total war when im notoriously bad at d1 shit anyway and it's when i'd be at my weakest. AND AND spiffeh would've been primo reckbus material, and i definitely wouldn't have let him plan to call me half of a town v town because it would drive me up a wall

things S_S/Spiffeh did that make me less likely to be scum

- spiffeh said me v accountant was town v town
- spiffeh's interactions w/ me in general were blindly calling me town in an attempt to enter my blind spot
- S_S had me listed as "reevaluate later" under his reads for most of the game

^ none of this looks like deliberate scum positioning with knowledge i am their buddy

Ok so that list of things confuses Scum and SK things and makes it much larger.

Also, It's just false that you don't kill Fate N1 as SK, so...

[xRECKONERx]

I WOULDN'T TAKE THE FUCKING ACC IF I WAS SK JESUS CHRIST

I HAVE PLAYED MAFIA BEFORE LLD YOU FUCKING KNOW THIS

THERE'S A 0% CHANCE I TAKE THE ACC AS SERIAL KILLER

I TAKE SELF PROTECTION OR MORE GLORIOUS BLOOD IF IM SK

p.edit: tell me more about my storied history with fate and his ability to read me since your'e such a fucking expert

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, let's go through.

- Calling SS town? If you're SK it's irrelevant. He's not your buddy, you can't know. It's just as likely you thought he was actually town. Further, taking a solid stance on a controversial wagon makes your standing go up in a lot of ways.
- Killing Fate N1. Fate would have lol nuked you if he felt like it. Is it terrible if you're group scum? Sure, but it can be avoided. Is it terrible if you're SK? Yeah. You're resigned to blocking Fate everynight and opening yoruself up to scum kills.
- SK always wants to vote against Total War. More death = more random chance you just die early. You need to live to endgame, so.
- If you're SK, you can't bus or not bus spiffeh, he's not your alignment.

So there you go.

[xRECKONERx]

things SK takes before ACC:

sub
an actual nuke
covert ops thing
air base
fallout shelter
missle interceptor
fuck even failsafe because going out in a blaze of glory as SK is amazing

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So what were your bids, Reck?

I bet they looked like this:

Sub
Fallout Shelter
ACC