DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[SpyreX]

I'd argue mastinas play is probably better than at least a third if not half or more of the playerlist.

Reminder: I'm voting you.

Also, SpyreX: from what I gather you claim to own the counterstrike team and sabotaged me.
I made it clear I was nuking LLD, who has...the fallout shelter. Which you yourself acknowledge.

Explain.
If you knew I was planning on nuking the person

immune to being nuked

, tell me.
Why on EARTH did you "waste" the sabotage on me?

(I mean granted this is a case where I wouldn't too terribly mind given that Zito's town, butstill.)

Cause I figured you were full of shit and lo and behold

[SpyreX]

Ut u so troll

Why wont anyone help me find the scums from those wagongs god

[SpyreX]

I'm a good nuke? Thread call the dd cause you be drunk up ins

[SpyreX]

Why the hell would a scum blindfire then surrender it especially mens down

[SpyreX]

This maybe spy stuff is hurting my feelings you jerks

[SpyreX]

Gi is town and you drunks think i told zito safe then killed him i swear

[SpyreX]

Nahdia why in the name.of.all that is good in #1 would i announce i was saving.him

[SpyreX]

So killing mastna and a scum.flip there means im number 1 town lets do it

[SpyreX]

High fives
Although i have reservations

[SpyreX]

No on accountant flipping scum

You be aight

[SpyreX]

Someone nuke him.tyvm

[SpyreX]

Semi.vla

[SpyreX]

VOTE: mcmenno

It looks like no more beauty to be had

[SpyreX]

Accountant i dont thin your scum I'll put the srs hat on tomorrow at lrast some

[SpyreX]

Waiting doesn't summon the nuke fairy

[SpyreX]

It is too late and there's too much insanity for the moment.

I can't get one of you guys to look at wagons for me but we go all hog wild out of the gate. For shame

[SpyreX]

It is too late and there's too much insanity for the moment.

I can't get one of you guys to look at wagons for me but we go all hog wild out of the gate. For shame

All I asked was that people wait and we consolodate resource and reset and discuss.

But no, playing a game with Mastin means fucking having cancer.

Right and then we had multiple nukes shoot off before we could reset.

I hate the mastin nuke but i really hate cephir not doccing gif

[SpyreX]

Well nukes are starting to become a valued commodity

[SpyreX]

Ceph i will give that just eating the pill here makes the most sense.

Unless you have a really compelling reason to just waste 48 hrs

[SpyreX]

I promised accountant serious hat today it will come were down to a human number. Although be aware 8 2 1 isn't fabulous town odds especially with at least a sub shooting today if both these are town hits

Pedit god no

[SpyreX]

Oh good, I can set the alarm again

Ftr i laughed out loud and almost woke the wife up

I think aside from the still very scary they are both town vomitorium yes

[SpyreX]

I'm trying to think what scum mastin who assumed they were blocked would gain from that fire

[SpyreX]

Double scum Dutch? That scared of the cop?

Did gif leave any crumbs about na that night have got grabbed

[SpyreX]

Right but this lld really isn't scum so hmm.

I'll think about it after cephir does the right thing tm

[SpyreX]

Do you really think her play is town? Tunneling mastina the entire game, begging to be investigated by everyone, then claiming it was a town action to do so. Picking a scummy deployment. Looking to kill people to prove others are town?

I didn't say that. But we know she isn't the Serial Killer and can only be Commie scum.

What about her deployment is inherently scummy? And what do you think of Spyrex's choice?

My choice? I haven't said mine today yet

[SpyreX]

My choice? I haven't said mine today yet

Your hippie dippie choice to be a tree-hugging Anti-Nuke element of course SpySpy

I mean, since I was asking why LLD's deploy choice was scummy and then followed up with asking him about you ...

Well i had the most American logic. I didn't want jerks screwing up pure beautiful nukes

[SpyreX]

Ok i need some logic spelled out nice and bullet pointed.

What in the christ all of a sudden with this discussion makes cephir town. Where is the night action that miraculously fixes what happened last night.

[SpyreX]

Thank you. Giant stupid walls i was missing it.

I need to sit down with an actual computer.

[SpyreX]

mod would a double kill reflect as such at night?

[SpyreX]

Hmm well i guess my total distaste in cep today is unwarranted.

God and that means mastin town probably too

[SpyreX]

Right and the terrorist would have 0 reason at that juncture. And terrorist taking sub doc is drunk.

Pedit. So am i but the truth is thats guaranteed death on not recalling. So god in heaven.

Nadhia scum could be creating gfs.

God i need like two town so we can go mad

[SpyreX]

Ok I'll look at vca tonight hopefully. Can someone step up and help me look at the defenders of ss versus who is alive.

Actually hmm him claiming cop makes me think nad is town cause aim there worth gfmaker is better

[SpyreX]

Ps I'm fine i think with being nuked. Just after i get everything squared up.

Pedit yes. I think nad town running through it. Im leaking hard on you town and cheet town. I think ut town some too.

What baffles me is we have had no data collection and i don't get it. I want to make sure that's remedied

[SpyreX]

Yea lld scum if and only if nahdia is scum.

Which makes ss not make sense claiming cop so much.

[SpyreX]

See gi feels more right than moi from a gut vibe level. Maybe thats more a function of today though.

Nahdia yea its a thing. Never hugely widespread but athing

[SpyreX]

Dude cheet dont go full ragenuke please that could be the difference between happy fun times and madnessland

[SpyreX]

Be the leaf on the wind i believe in you.

[SpyreX]

You probably shouldn't.

Deal w it

[SpyreX]

Dude since ive been back i feel like 3 bags of suck.

But we cant let the metaphysical terrorists win

Or the real one in this game.

[SpyreX]

Wait isnt there a nuke at hiplop right now?

[SpyreX]

If thats the case then i want mastin dead all.over again

At 8 2 1 drumming on hiplop is the terrorist voting not the terrorist is insanity

[SpyreX]

Well I'm not beyond the oale angry at that

[SpyreX]

I've been staring at the votecounts and its like some davinci code shit

In post 2205, Andrius wrote:
Vaxkiller [7] - SpyreX, Fate, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Lady Lambdadelta
Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx
Something_Smart [5] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
Ser Arthur Dayne [1] - Vaxkiller
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

In post 2325, Andrius wrote:
Untrod Tripod [7] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX
Something_Smart [7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh
Vaxkiller [3] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, Fate
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller
Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

in 100 posts (I haven't looked but it has to be claim) the vax disintegration did something really interesting. We have a window where most of the idiot votes stayed put (only vax changed). So we have a very amusing spread:

Vaxkiller [7] - SpyreX, Fate, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Lady Lambdadelta
Vaxkiller [3] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, Fate

So, me, Spiffeh, MoI and Nuke jump. It breaks down like this:

Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx
Something_Smart [5] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant

Untrod Tripod [7] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX
Something_Smart [7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh

So what this would mean:

For MoI to be scum spiff leaped after him on an unnecessary meggaaabus. Nuke moving before Spif makes sense to separate, but dag. It really makes me positionally feel better about MoI though.

Then the wagons split again:

Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, Nukebringer, Fate
mastina [5] - Lady Lambdadelta, SpyreX, Papa Zito, GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod
Something_Smart [5] - RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh

Note mastin had 0 votes before a travesty I know but it split these god damn wagons perfectly:

Zito & SpyreX from UT, GiF and UT from SS with LLD making a wholesome family.

- The two known scum don't move at this point.

Which makes 0 god damn sense when you consider either shove that bus through with a nuke swing or abandon for 2 other viable wagons. Whhyyyy

and UT taking this point for a mastin feels good man.

[SpyreX]

3165 is the magic post:

Post Post #3165 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:25 am

Screw "optimal" plan and stuff.
We don't deserve it.

I'm the real espionage. Proceed with justice please.
You probably want my draft pick

Espionage, battleship, nuke.

If SS is flipping red, then never ever talk about lynching UT ever again.
If SS is flipping terrorist, yay 100% accuracy result

I need to get an exact assessment right before then.
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And this makes me feel way better about cheetory:

I want Nukebringer dead most from this.
Everything about the wagonhopping between UT and S_S was garbage.

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Cause why the shit would you go magic quadrabussing when a nuke can shit the pants any point.

[SpyreX]

Cheetory+
UT+
MoI+

A pattern starts to emerge

Mastin was so wrong I almost think town but jesus

[SpyreX]

A lot of my theorizing is shaky because spif had such a hateon these scum were waaay to murdery.

But if hiplop is the terrorist i think weve got a good shot

[SpyreX]

Oh i haven't made a decision on gi. That could still be

[SpyreX]

Thanks for your support

And yea i absolutely have done that ftr

[SpyreX]

Like the pattern says you're town so I'll deal with that

Why the fuck would you think that was helpful or useful at all.

Good shit i guess things like this give me solace when we lose at least you do to.

[SpyreX]

Sigh come on guys

[SpyreX]

Moi its the holiday season i believe in giving

[SpyreX]

Ooou that implies arial scum nukes. Maybe today wont be awful afterall

[SpyreX]

I'm not positive what -I- want to do today, but lynch LLD hadn't broke the top 5 yet

[SpyreX]

Thanks for your support

And yea i absolutely have done that ftr

oh sorry i assumed you were decent at playing scum

Break that arm pattin yourself on the back for your excellent play this game.

Then take the fragment and shove it through your eyes

[SpyreX]

Was 3 when i nuked fate? Memories

[SpyreX]

So heres the deal then and it can't be real wager so let it be a wager of the mind

If i flip town for the next 5 games you play you post no more than ohh 50 words a page.

[SpyreX]

I mean id even say additive so once per 10 pages you can have a 500 word steaming pile.

[SpyreX]

If I wasn’t waiting for Nukes to land on Vax and mastin to confirm they aren’t Commie or Terrorist I’d probably be voting LLD this second. All that accomplished was making her argument look bad (which it was) and specifically make the Sub’s Nuke choice today if they want to eliminate the Airbase fucking simple.

Did Andy ever positively confirm that the Aircraft Carrier could not block the Commie or Terrorist Nightkills? I haven’t had time to read through all 10 or so pages overnight yet. Because if so I absolutely want to revisit the choice for Nukebringer to kill Ircher with those facts solidified in my mind.

Just wanted a reminder for why MoI is scum out.

How do you think teams of

Spyrex / me

, me / Vax or Vax / Spyrex make sense.

Well, actually......

But since I know I'm town I can chalk this up you either being scum or just yet another bad Mastin read.

The most aggrivating part is its going to be the latter. There isnt even lolwifom to explain the suicial play in this game in conjunction with the recall and the role reveal d1

[SpyreX]

And no one was shocked

Or sad

[SpyreX]

Like I'm dead serious gravemastin.
I flip town, 50 words. Give some.perspective

Pedit actually that may be fine. Im totally fine with it in a terrorist flip. I belive the answer is a non nuke lynch today

[SpyreX]

Nahdia srs question
You been watching waiting for the flip

[SpyreX]

I was a little hopeful there alas

Pedit you are vla and have been quiet. You on waiting for these flips

[SpyreX]

So were looking at 8 total with 5 2 1 worst case.

We've still got a sub that hasnt launched but better start real hard.thinking.about aiming at scum.

Guys it may be the most American ending

Pedit nevermind then god forbid i manage to get a town read

[SpyreX]

Well maybe its a triple secret gambit so hiplop blesses us with his reads

[SpyreX]

Damnit vax you are dead no posting

[SpyreX]

Hahahah ohhh snap

[SpyreX]

Have a bottle of booze ready vi you'll need it

[SpyreX]

Vi cheet was town i believe ut town altough the murder of the old guard is scary.

Hip needs to flip terrorist or its a ball of sadness.

Ceph town.

I think moi town

[SpyreX]

Tbf i knew the first nuke would fail

However there should be 0 thought of me the terrorist for the simple fact i would never ever ever have killed fate hes my boo

[SpyreX]

And it should be stupidly clear as scum why would i have tried to hard to subtly tell zito he was fine from that first nuke

[SpyreX]

Vi in the land of chaos even a little sanity can be a lot.

I mean he nuked zito. After a parade of madness.

And i get twinges about nahdia but the ss esp claim.

[SpyreX]

Cephir is town from na or cheeeeeky scum which doesnt make sense

[SpyreX]

oh bby {LLD, SpyreX, UT} conforms so hard to my preconceived notions

...god what have I become, another spammer like the rest of us

did I say us

um

u m m m m m

With the terrorist in the air no need for coy

As a shock to all i sabotaged mastin again

[SpyreX]

That cant be my fault

Wait didnt zitos mastin nuke land and fail

[SpyreX]

[Day 3, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]

Papa Zito looked furtively at his watch. He walked over to the short-range scanner and saw nothing. "Ops, where did that ICBM go?" He turned to look at the two young men operating the scanners.

"No idea. It just disappeared a minute ago."

Papa Zito shook us head. "ICBMs do not just disappear in-flight."

"We'll check again. If its out there, we'll find it." The men saluted and returned to their work.

"Back to your posts," He said to the Spectator a gathered around. "We're not dead yet."

As his staff saluted and returned to battlestations, he glanced at his watch one last time before heading to his quarters for a drink.

That's what i thought damnit vi

[SpyreX]

It made more sense to let all the fun get in the air

[SpyreX]

1.) See mastin this game. Like i said before he was full of it d2 and was gonna do something stupid and...shock.. he did. Nothing made me expect different today. Really your asking why would you roleblock a zwet vig. Think about it.

2.) Well you can make fun of me.for not clarifying but nuclear silo != as if nuclear silo and i never read it that way.

mod: does covert ops stop sub

[SpyreX]

Which part what

[SpyreX]

Thank you minor vindication

[SpyreX]

I swear i went through this too

I didnt want someone ruining fun all willy nilly so i put it. I got it on the cheap though. Sub, esp, covert i believe

[SpyreX]

Ohh i lied

Sub counterint covert. I didnt bother esp not 1st

[SpyreX]

Hey you dont get to make me question.my existance then.just float away validate.me

[SpyreX]

As scum id have not announced it for sure tried to hide more in the weeds waay longer.

And no way would i have sabotaged crazyface cause you know hes on for only good scum things

[SpyreX]

We just need a hiplop terror flip and i think we're ok

[SpyreX]

Like Spy, you really wanted Cephrir dead that badly?

Yes over and over until it was spelled out to me why he had to be town

Because lolfom on gif normally would be death

[SpyreX]

As scum id have not announced it for sure tried to hide more in the weeds waay longer.

And no way would i have sabotaged crazyface cause you know hes on for only good scum things

She, and... this is actually kinda convincing. Unless you're playing DEEP cover operative. Or LLD is scum. Because you had no reason to doubt Mastina besides the usual (aka she's cray cray)

Actually I am going to ask about this one while things play out because I don't follow. Unless Mastin actually said IMMA SHOOT TOWNZ then there's no reason to believe that this wouldn't backfire. I'm not sure where LLD comes into this.

Nukes are a plentiful commodity. All scum-Nahdia needs is one player to go "oh that does sound like a good idea, NUKES AWAY LAWL"

Granted. (Why did no one nuke Nahdia, aside from how it would be the least satisfying policy lynch available?)

So heres the thing i want to be crystal clear on.

Mastin was making out with the mirror so hard i had zero doubt that nuke was gonna do something stupid and fast. And it did. I wasnt sure if it was gonna be scum, but i was positive it would be stupid

Like that was my one good deed this whole game.

[SpyreX]

So if I'm scum, id have let mastin do stupid because in worst case even if he hit a partner half the game would have yelled bus. Defanging that madness is protown by any meausre and probably why i feel better about ut then objectively i should

[SpyreX]

Jesus christ or you could mention it like a rational person i thought they were all mastin and mastin was a he my fuckin bad zzzz

[SpyreX]

Welp great.

I'm not lynching any nukes today.

[SpyreX]

Cephrir - town.
LLD - cannot be sk.
MoI - i liked the early, but poe nervousness.
Vi - cheetory was town. Thus.
Nahdia - scum claiming cop d1 makes me.think less likely scum, but thtat is assuming scum coordinated ss verus going wild. Play wise nothing makes me murderous but maybe thats thr biggest sk tell lolols.
GI - poe nervousness and...

Lynching the terrorist today is priority for a shot at a town win. The two votes on the one not a terrorist bother the shit out of me.

[SpyreX]

Dude i can deal with being lynched for scum, but not for terrorist that kills me. A lot.

Weve got one more drop and.unless the terrorist did a favor were.looking at 4 2 1 pre lynch.

The terrorist will want nukes alive. The scum should as well.

Ut almost has to be not town but which flavor. I could see ut.murdering the sdc, but jesus of everyone alive most i could see.

[SpyreX]

It's gonna come down to why fate.

[SpyreX]

The moi deployment is sklicious. And i was thinking of not a scum because i was really banking on hipsk

[SpyreX]

Ok, were on a full up sk hunt. Get your boards ready for a good fashioned fire.

Pedit ok for discussion purposes can you cheese heads just say I'm scum but not the sk so we can work together

[SpyreX]

I assume its hitting ceph but that's a hunch

[SpyreX]

So not the sk:
Lld - for sure
Me - i swear to god
Ceph - is there a quantifiable lockdown for.sure reason? Aside from sk doc.being super weird.

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Nahdia - counterint is really weird. On one hand scum would have 0 reason to kill it and town wouldnt when hunting for sk. However it doesnt help sk.much in murder bridge setup.

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I think the rest are 'equal' chance.
So we get to why fate.

Moi and gi i see way over cheetory

[SpyreX]

I'm talkingn myself more and more into moi help me

[SpyreX]

But then theres the zito nuke damnit

[SpyreX]

But you think that was show? Cause the sk knew zito was safe.

Hmm hmm who was on zitos list

[SpyreX]

I mean ut is smart enough to do all those things as sk.

Buttttt damnit

Pedit yes i was very not subtly saying he was safe

[SpyreX]

Maybe it was way more obvious to.me but get off me

Ok so rereading zito if its an sk did it so they dont die its... nahdia by a mile then ut

[SpyreX]

But gdi i don't want to lynch a nuke today

[SpyreX]

Right but people talking with the spectre of death is important.

Ftr if im the sk i put my name on that list so hard

[SpyreX]

Try again ffs

[SpyreX]

Like i helped balance this game and that change to the sub was my gift. God

And reading fate... its ut. Or a ut framejob

[SpyreX]

You very well may be mr and I'm not in the mood for sasses

[SpyreX]

Not lld
Pretty much not me
You'd need to sell me on docsk

[SpyreX]

Hey lets be frank.nuking mastin is the biggest cred in the world but go look at zito and fate.
You help sell me.a better sk

[SpyreX]

I expected a lot of things but this one is surprising

Zito wanted nahdia dead a lot and you dead some. Fate wanted your nuke and you dead too

[SpyreX]

Zito channel.me today im.in california fucking work

I wanna kill the following:

1. Nahdia for scums
2. RedCoyote for scums
3. mastin for extreme derp
4. Nukebringer for hydra


Does this align with your interests Y/y?

This game

Zito you really think ut scum

I think he's got a higher than average chance yeah.

May I also add for consideration:

Something_Smart is probably gonna flip town.

Really now, you'd request a check on the person with Counterintellignece? And you'd trust that?

Hey, question. When we die, does it reveal what we had deployed?

thanks UT i looked but didnt see that bless u.

anyway, that being the case, do u deny it's not optimal to let Something_Sultry live a day so he can get a result? from mastina's claim, we know SOMEONE has to have Espionage so if he's scum he'll be counterclaimed tomorrow.

unless, you know, he's scum who drafted espionage. which i guess is totally possible. idk.

would just like to point out that McMenno thought he could launch another nuke after canceling his first. and he tried to nuke RedCoyote.

and what

[SpyreX]

Thar last one is me being bad at quotes

[SpyreX]

RECK IS THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE UT WAGON

HE HAS MADE A DEAL

EVERYONE ELSE FOLLOWS SUIT OR GOES ON RECORD FOR A DEAD WAGON WHEN WE GOT A COMMIE RUNG UP

Look i want vax to be a liar so we can lynch and.move to party time

But it wont happen so we'll touch butts for another 50 pages

Wasn't worth the counterclaim

Unvote:
Vote: Untrod Tripod

We both know when a wagon's not gonna make it over the edge

All he did was claim Espionage which people think is useless for scum to take

I think his reasoning is crap but it could just be more dumb that scum

But the whole SAD case of him knowing that we were NOT GOING TO WAR before reading the thread is a real slam dunk and people playing with WIFOM and role choices is just dumb.


This game is a wash until nukes anyway so UT can be for death.

What other options? S_S? No thanks

UT blatantly voting anything thats not him

no shame

NO GODDAMN SHAME

A proxy nuke?

SOLD

VOTE: S_S

SS town flip > UT town flip

Tho the inyourface reck points would be nice

I was the change UT

Your nukes are belong to me. Lets not forget that

Were not lynching scum today and Im ok with that

VOTE: UT

THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN A FATE NK

[SpyreX]

Look i dont want to lynch you help me.find.the sk.then

[SpyreX]

And lets be real sub is a given your other would have been high and lost assuming you like i would have as sk didnt go sub, sub

[SpyreX]

Three? God help you

[SpyreX]

Actually does the lists of draft make sense now

[SpyreX]

Except ceph can still choke a nuke

And 4 1 1 without cross is game as well.

And mois fallout nuke

[SpyreX]

Bit if we want to play scum has to kill the sk to win whatevs.

Cause given kingmaker I'll give it to the terrorist every time

Pedit yes that's if it hits ceph lord. Moi still would have to be dealt with or some obvious stunt turns into a non scum win regardless

[SpyreX]

With vax dead you really think vi and i would have had this conversation here.

But even with vi and i scum assuming i sabotage ut the second vi launches theres the lynch theres still an unstoppable moi launch.

[SpyreX]

And if the argument is me being scum in any scenario with the sabotage why not lynch me here? Because if I'm scum me dying guarantees at least one non scum nuke

[SpyreX]

Scum as Russians not scum as all non town

[SpyreX]

No SpyreX. I think Vi had this sitting in a word document and copy/pasted every bit of it into the QT when Vax died.

And the MOI launch won't ever happen. Scenario: It hits Cephrir and we lynch UT and he's the SK. Whose alive?

Me
LLD
Nadhia
You
Vi
MOI

You night kill LLD. Vi launches the nuke at Nadhia. How does MOI's failsafe help exactly?

5 start.
Vi launches. Lynch before land.
Kill puts it at 3 into night. You aren't killable and moi nukes me on getting killed

[SpyreX]

We literally CAN'T lynch SpyreX today if you think he's the SK. Cephrir... Cephrir I need your head in this and not in your ass.

Lolol

[SpyreX]

I can make cases for any of those being lynches. That's what bothers me. Its even easy enough to justify mine cause even though its town it forces nontown to try and cross.

My thing is i just want like 2 people i can bank them game on and its just not there.

[SpyreX]

Ceph is dead.
Nahdia is my best bet for town but i worry i overplay ss claiming cop.
Ut is high up on the murder fate.
You would be my second gamble based on cheet but since you're drinking the spyrex scum koolaid i worry cause it's so easy.

[SpyreX]

Failsafe is a great sk. And there's some stuff that's been town but he's also had more just 'being there' than id like.

I've been trying to think of non alignment indicative plans and keep styming myself

[SpyreX]

Maaybe?
Is there an ending thats moi and nahdia?

[SpyreX]

So assume ceph is dead

Nuke
Nuke
Failsafe
Fallout
Airbase
Counterint
Sabotage

We lynch non nuke going into night.
Assuming town we're at 3 2 1. Eerrr

[SpyreX]

Too many variables. I cant see a clear route.
Weve got 2.5 nukes assuming theyre town owned. That's not enough to clear it unless a cross kill and setup lynch for when the.bombs land
Not to mention either you or ut sk could deploy defensive and i dont think that's fixable

[SpyreX]

If you're talking about today then yes I'm not voting nahdia, moi or you.

So play pretend with me. Assume its a scum. Is grey right and 4 1 1 better than 4 2

[SpyreX]

Or is it actually best to force cross kills? It seems counterintuitive but is the right move here a mislynch as drunk as it sounds

[SpyreX]

4 2 1 the terrorist pretty much has to hit scum. Scum cant afford a free nuke either in the sub so they want the terrorist.

Whereas 4 1 1 they need to whittle town.

[SpyreX]

Look im riddled with fourth guessing myself I'm not the man i used to be

[SpyreX]

Bullet to my head id vote greyice for scum, ut for sk right now.

Pedit.
Myself duh

[SpyreX]

If the right move is town, at minimum that means theres 0 chance of sabotage tomorrow and it probably forces clarity for the sk on kill choices for.scum


But i worry that I'm missing something key

[SpyreX]

Ut or you firing a nuke with the other dead would be instant lynch still leaving moi as a prayer in the dark.

Right 3 2 1 is telling scum you want a chance you better do it right and vice versa. That is my way of saying you guys better be better rhan we are but... well..

[SpyreX]

Woah now

Hiplop and mastin most definitely not vanity targets

[SpyreX]

Like we rraaaly need to be on the same page here cause tomorrow needs to move fast the second nukes launch.

Soo you tell me what you need for me to be town or lynch me cause that cannot happen tomorrow

[SpyreX]

Hahaha

Well we can have a huge discussion how this should clear me before voting begins

[SpyreX]

So you think i tried to convince my partner to kill himself on a nuke that wouldnt hurt and then have him climb up my ass so hard my response got a be civil from the mod.

[SpyreX]

I wanted ceph to be scum so hard i didnt ever think it could be. I'm so cloud nine

[SpyreX]

I agree i feel a lot better about you now as well

[SpyreX]

But jesus ceph up my ass that hard and not in a.useful.way. that should be the klaxon

And if you think I'm the sk you're drunk

[SpyreX]

Ahhhhh also lets rebuild the vcas after mr votecount is shit died

[SpyreX]

I feel lots better about it but a fuckup today is still not ideal.

This makes me feel better about you and moi cause cephs descent into madness and bullshit was spawned from me saying the early wagons made me feel better about moi

[SpyreX]

RC is probably scum too for calling SAD/LLD town v town.

I think SAD/LLD is town v town

I think people like saying this too much and it's basically impossible to determine, unless you're saying you just think they're both town independent of the argument in which case use different words

But I don't think anyone in the world will agree with me on that

This one is interesting now that we know its scum on scum talking about it

[SpyreX]

Hold on

So ceph was like addicted to talking to his buddies... and cheet.

Would a scum.actually use the doc on not a partner? Does that mean we have to aim for sk and, realistically, vi now cant see endgame

[SpyreX]

I wanna see the vca before i do that

But I'm gonna probably do that

[SpyreX]

VOTE: greyice VOTE:

This is good cause moi will be around if they murder him to spite nuke.

And if i fell for human feelings i swear

[SpyreX]

Ffs

VOTE: GREY

[SpyreX]

I hate everything

[SpyreX]

And yes THAT is an appeal to emotion.

A real fucking appeal to emotion. It's bad logic. By all means you should take your time with this

I just don't want to fight anymore. I just want to love him and not hurt us anymore.

Ftr I'd recommend not paying together the real world is so much more important and we don't need to lend festering wounds

Also if you janked me i swear

VOTE: ferry

[SpyreX]

I
Swear
To
God
VOTE: greyice

[SpyreX]

I'm taking a map now ffs

[SpyreX]

Ok i need some logic spelled out nice and bullet pointed.

What in the christ all of a sudden with this discussion makes cephir town. Where is the night action that miraculously fixes what happened last night.

Its worth reading from.here

Although total honesty i thought it was gi not cheet that explained it at all

[SpyreX]

Jesus if, if if you're gonna say I'm scum my flavor would have to be reussian

However, like i said, it should be as clear as the most beautiful skies that I'm not because of ceph

[SpyreX]

Ohh vi

I can't believe you're making me do this. Making me meta.

For me to be sk I:
- got excited in sign-ups and explictly said i wanted fate to show up
- saw reck, zito, ut show up and had a tear filled moment of pure happiness
- get sk, be for total war, draft counterintelligence
- proceed to hatefuck all my memories

I play to win, yes. But more so i play to have fun. I came back because of memories not of the victories but the people i enjoyed. In no universe, none, is fate my n1 choice. Ever ever ever.

This is leaving aside gameplay things like
- sabotaging mastin who would clearly have been my secret ally for chaos into
- telling zito i saved him into
- panic? Nuking a sub when id be the only one whod know better.

Yea yea its all wifom if you're drunk but it's not. Not fate. Not ever.

[SpyreX]

Pfft not ci you know what i mean

Even if you think I'm bad at the game doing things like picking sabotage I'm never killing fate

[SpyreX]

And getting be civil from.the mod? Also posturing?

[SpyreX]

Like i said i could have dealt with russian talk up until the ceph lynch but never sk. Not in infinity years in the multiverse.

Grey you're starting to sway me some these slowbies are gonna paranoia me into stasis

[SpyreX]

Let's not go drunk kthx.

But... i cant disagree with that

[SpyreX]

Lets think about timing.
I want moi to land first i believe.

Although i cant see a vi scheme here and thats almost exactly what i expected

[SpyreX]

Ooou
Hold on can we do it

[SpyreX]

Guys
Can we do it
Do you trust me

[SpyreX]

If you trust me to be town
Vi nuke nahdia
Nahdia suicides
Ut launches at vi
Moi nukes ut
Ut and i vote lld

Will that work

[SpyreX]

Hmmmm that would require perfect timing.

Yea i was gonna be coy but yes i touched vi

But vi can still suicide nuke

[SpyreX]

@mod when does a nk trigger? End of night?

[SpyreX]

Depending on the mod answer if you believe in me thats the foolproof end

[SpyreX]

Annnnndddy pleeease i summon you

If a nuke is in the air at scum that lands at night do scum get a nk off

Or... if you vote and suicide after the vote, will it trigger if your vote brought us to night.

[SpyreX]

Ohh for fucks sake ut

[SpyreX]

Jesus christ ut that ruins everything i think

[SpyreX]

I swore out loud

I dont think we can last man standing which means we have to do it right

[SpyreX]

So we've got two nukes and 5 of us..i say two because not suiciding is claiming scum.

Fuuuuuck ut man ohh man.

[SpyreX]

Like i think that means lld scum wins

[SpyreX]

Vi nukes nahdia
Nahdia suicides
Moi nukes vi
Vi suicides
Lld and i vote ut

I think that's it?

Pedit i like removing alll the variables. Realistically i think its vi or nahdia but

[SpyreX]

That was in the better times when i thought we could get to army of one

[SpyreX]

Pre utheartbreak

[SpyreX]

Why did i switch so fast? That nuke being defensive just broke me

And yep nahdia welcome to hell that is this game

[SpyreX]

Which question I'm here

[SpyreX]

Ok everyone lets approach this differently and fast.

What two would you bank on being town

[SpyreX]

Yesterday I'd have said ut with a huge gap

[SpyreX]

This is too much power for one mortal omgggg

On my way to work, I'll think about it. Moi give me a siiign

[SpyreX]

God does vca show something obvious

I know moi saw like i did ut feels town from d1

[SpyreX]

I think ut would have been more worried about you nuke then moi..moi read him.town. and knew that i probably was sabotaging vi.

God nothing makes sense.

Vi i think you nuke nahdia and then both of you give me advise and suicide

[SpyreX]

Dangir nahdia i wanted input if you're town

[SpyreX]

Vi damnit just be the scum please i dont want this life

[SpyreX]

Assuming that's not the case

Ceph was doc scum. Scum knew from d2 gi was the terrorist

[SpyreX]

Right but damnit the defensive just kills me smalls

[SpyreX]

I know vi help me before you crater I'm plagued with doubt

[SpyreX]

And ceph going on about vca when it makes ut look waay better

[SpyreX]

oh, also, reason 10,00,000 I'm not scum

Scum!LLD never kills MoI.

MoI would never lynch me, and given he's the only role in the game who can nuke me, it makes no sense to kill him.

Uhh

Every person here as scum had to kill moi last night. He wasn't getting lynched which means a not yesterday moi kill was a guaranteed scum loss

[SpyreX]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

Is what i said. You decide if cephir and i would ever be manufactured to the point the mod stepped in

[SpyreX]

I've been staring at the votecounts and its like some davinci code shit

In post 2205, Andrius wrote:
Vaxkiller [7] - SpyreX, Fate, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Lady Lambdadelta
Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx
Something_Smart [5] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
Ser Arthur Dayne [1] - Vaxkiller
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

In post 2325, Andrius wrote:
Untrod Tripod [7] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX
Something_Smart [7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh
Vaxkiller [3] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, Fate
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] - Something_Smart
SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller
Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

in 100 posts (I haven't looked but it has to be claim) the vax disintegration did something really interesting. We have a window where most of the idiot votes stayed put (only vax changed). So we have a very amusing spread:

Vaxkiller [7] - SpyreX, Fate, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Lady Lambdadelta
Vaxkiller [3] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, Fate

So, me, Spiffeh, MoI and Nuke jump. It breaks down like this:

Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx
Something_Smart [5] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant

Untrod Tripod [7] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX
Something_Smart [7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod, RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh

So what this would mean:

For MoI to be scum spiff leaped after him on an unnecessary meggaaabus. Nuke moving before Spif makes sense to separate, but dag. It really makes me positionally feel better about MoI though.

Then the wagons split again:

Untrod Tripod [5] - mastina, Cheetory6, Ser Arthur Dayne, Nukebringer, Fate
mastina [5] - Lady Lambdadelta, SpyreX, Papa Zito, GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod
Something_Smart [5] - RedCoyote, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Spiffeh

Note mastin had 0 votes before a travesty I know but it split these god damn wagons perfectly:

Zito & SpyreX from UT, GiF and UT from SS with LLD making a wholesome family.

- The two known scum don't move at this point.

Which makes 0 god damn sense when you consider either shove that bus through with a nuke swing or abandon for 2 other viable wagons. Whhyyyy

and UT taking this point for a mastin feels good man.

Read a few pages from.here.

Unless you also want to read me telling him to not waste time on a fake nuke

[SpyreX]

Timing? I mean i felt like i went over the top cause of the angry

[SpyreX]

Gdi guys

[SpyreX]

Thanks for your support

And yea i absolutely have done that ftr

oh sorry i assumed you were decent at playing scum

Break that arm pattin yourself on the back for your excellent play this game.

Then take the fragment and shove it through your eyes

First of all, lets keep this game civil.
We can have a good game while being charitable with each other.

Votecount

Lady Lambdadelta [2] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta
SpyreX [1] - mastina


Not Voting [8] - Everyone else

Nahdia is V/LA until 12/12.

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
It is now Day Four, which will end at 21:00 PST on 12/21/2016.


Projected Impact Times:
mastina (expired on 2016-12-10 01:01:07)
Vaxkiller (expired on 2016-12-10 01:27:42)
hiplop (expired on 2016-12-11 00:00:35)

Lynching a player who is protected by the Battleship

would

end the day. I thought there was a precedent for this, but there wasn't. The Mod Team consulted and agreed the day would end.

@Andrius

, if someone who had been targeted by the ACC used their sub, would they be informed that it failed or would everyone be informed that it failed?

A launch would be posted, but the missile would be immediately shot down. I believe this happened in DEFCON 3.0 so I'll go grab the precedent if I am correct.

You know what, you're right.

Replace me out Andrius.

.

Ok. Will hit up my replacement list first.

[SpyreX]

That was the end of ceph being a total dbag which started when i looked at the wagons and said it made me feel better about moi,ut

[SpyreX]

Ok vi. Let's try this different before you die

Who looks like they knew gi was the sk. Cause that's gonna be skums.

Also who is town

Pedit 4 minutes after? You guys are killing me

[SpyreX]

Why would ceph set himself up to die that day actually

[SpyreX]

Lollolool

I'm going to take a nap vi help