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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:42 am

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In post 4349, GreyICE wrote:I think LLD is town
Weren't you just saying that LLD is scum? q.q
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:43 am

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In post 4314, GreyICE wrote:Anything else? Hmmm. LLD still feels a bit scum to me. Got little else.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:43 am

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In post 4348, Cheetory6 wrote:At least I'm not asking someone to choose my actions for me.
it kind of doesn't matter who i choose though i think about it.
I think letting a town read chose is better because it lets people access you based on your choice rather than a dead slot thats already confirmed.

also it stops you from possibly lynching town in future or saving lynch for another scum if your right.
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:45 am

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In post 4349, GreyICE wrote:
In post 4341, Nukebringer wrote:nothing is really scummy about mcmemester
Then who is scum exactly? I think Cheetory is town, I think Mastin and Reck are town, I think LLD is town, I think SpyreX is town. Vax felt like town based on Spiffeh's interaction, although it's a bit marginal still. MoI is town. I think GIF's counterclaim makes him likely town, that makes Hiplop at least not-Russian. That's 9 town. Zito is likely town from the sub, although he could be scum earning points. Nahdia is town.

You and me are probably dying.

So that leaves what, Accountant, Cephrir, McMenno, Ircher? I still think Accountant is pretty town. Hiplop could be SK I suppose, he's done jack shit. Nuking Cephrir sadly is probably not the worst.
I think MoI kind of scummy though equinox disagreed with me.
Nahdia is a also one for me.
sPyrex too.

those are my main scum.
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:47 am

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In post 4350, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 4349, GreyICE wrote:I think LLD is town
Weren't you just saying that LLD is scum? q.q
Yes I said that.

It's possible she's scum who took the bunker to avoid nukes because she figures she can dodge the lynch. That's possible. I mean dodging the lynch is only a matter of not being the slowest, while dodging the nukes is a matter of not pissing anyone off, and the odds LLD can play a game of mafia without pissing anyone off are about zero.

Huh... that's actually some solid logic...

I dunno though. I think she's town.
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:48 am

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Nuke is there something tangible about McMenno that you're confident about in terms of him not being scum?
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:48 am

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Also, GI, same question but with LLD.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:48 am

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In post 4355, Cheetory6 wrote:Nuke is there something tangible about McMenno that you're confident about in terms of him not being scum?
he recalled on me.
that was good enough.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:49 am

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So you think it's reasonably more likely than not that McMenno would recall as town vs scum?
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:50 am

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In post 4353, Nukebringer wrote:
In post 4349, GreyICE wrote:
In post 4341, Nukebringer wrote:nothing is really scummy about mcmemester
Then who is scum exactly? I think Cheetory is town, I think Mastin and Reck are town, I think LLD is town, I think SpyreX is town. Vax felt like town based on Spiffeh's interaction, although it's a bit marginal still. MoI is town. I think GIF's counterclaim makes him likely town, that makes Hiplop at least not-Russian. That's 9 town. Zito is likely town from the sub, although he could be scum earning points. Nahdia is town.

You and me are probably dying.

So that leaves what, Accountant, Cephrir, McMenno, Ircher? I still think Accountant is pretty town. Hiplop could be SK I suppose, he's done jack shit. Nuking Cephrir sadly is probably not the worst.
I think MoI kind of scummy though equinox disagreed with me.
Nahdia is a also one for me.
sPyrex too.

those are my main scum.
I maintain from PYP that people are super eager to take the scum roles out of play as town, while scum don't want them. That and Nadhia feels generally town. Seriously though, I don't think she takes it as scum.

MoI... I think he could do what he's done as scum. I dunno. Not the worst nuke I guess.

Think you're underselling Cephrir scum. He's been significantly non-entity in a bad way, and he's not a bad player at all.
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:51 am

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I say nuke accountant
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:51 am

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In post 4356, Cheetory6 wrote:Also, GI, same question but with LLD.
No. I self-admittedly have problems reading her. That doesn't stop me from trying.

I think she'd be trying harder to control things as scum. Pushing people to nuke people and what have you.
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:22 am

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Busy reading up, will have some actual thoughts later today.

Meanwhile:


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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:26 am

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In post 4338, Cheetory6 wrote:Well, I can talk more about it tonight when I'm back from work, but the SS votes dropped on D1 are kind of awkward and the Spiff/Accountant interactions are especially weird.
Accountant calls Spiff weird.
Spiff doesn't respond. [which is pretty non-standard Spiff behavior, I would seriously expect him to either try to discredit or dissuade someone]
Accountant then proceeds to hard-defend Spiff for the rest of the game.
Spiff puts Accountant in the top tier of his top block without having commented on him at all beforehand.

Really just feels like the sort of interactions that I can see Spiff going for and Accountant trying to deal with it and it maybe not working out as cleanly as either of them would have liked.
Entirely possible that Spiff just felt like Accountant would be easier to ignore than to push but just.. no reaction just feels more like he feels like Accountant is no threat because he knows he's no threat via scumbuddy. I suspect Spiff is like me in that he tends to skim his scumbuddies' posts because they're not as important to what he's trying to accomplish as scum.

I'm also feeling that Accountant's votes have that air of scum bussing where they feel they need to. Especially the hops on and off the SS wagon.
as if i would be that bad a scum

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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:32 am

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In post 4342, Cheetory6 wrote:Could be trying to coast through on his universal townread status.
When is mcmenno a universal townread
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:41 am

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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:44 am

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See, Accountant. The nice thing is that I don't have to deal with people being coy. And it's not just because Nukebringer might nuke you if I ask him to.
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:51 am

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In post 4366, Cheetory6 wrote:See, Accountant. The nice thing is that I don't have to deal with people being coy. And it's not just because Nukebringer might nuke you if I ask him to.
I wasn't being coy. I was giving a dumb answer to a dumb case.
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:53 am

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Is SpyreX scum for calling Spifd transparently town out of the blue?

When A calls B weird, that's a super vague and toothless threat, especially when not backed by a vote. Spiffeh had no reason to stick his neck out by going out of his way to throw shade on me.

Do you have any examples of my scum bussing mystical aura?
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:55 am

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Dumb case huh? Well. I guess I'd have to be pretty dumb to do this.
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:58 am

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Let me know when you start feeling like you want to play mafia.
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:59 am

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I don't really have to, do I?
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:59 am

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In post 4280, Andrius wrote:
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Papa Zito looked furtively at his watch. He walked over to the short-range scanner and saw nothing. "Ops, where did that ICBM go?" He turned to look at the two young men operating the scanners.

"No idea. It just disappeared a minute ago."

Papa Zito shook us head. "ICBMs do not just disappear in-flight."

"We'll check again. If its out there, we'll find it." The men saluted and returned to their work.

"Back to your posts," He said to the Spectator a gathered around. "We're not dead yet."

As his staff saluted and returned to battlestations, he glanced at his watch one last time before heading to his quarters for a drink.
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:12 am

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Just for fun let's see what your response is! You know, honestly, dumb 'ol me just doesn't really get it.

Frankly I don't see what Spyrex has to do with anything here, let alone him calling Spiff town out of the blue!
Accountant wrote:When A calls B weird, that's a super vague and toothless threat, especially when not backed by a vote. Spiffeh had no reason to stick his neck out by going out of his way to throw shade on me.
Gosh I suppose Spiff had no reason to stick his neck out when I gave him a little bit of shit without a vote either.
Almost like those reactions are completely different for different reasons!
Accountant wrote:Do you have any examples of my scum bussing mystical aura?
I'm yawning at you.
That's literally what my response is to this.

If you're going to call my shit stupid, don't respond with dumber shit.
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:16 am

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