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Post Post #5925 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:53 pm

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Cephrir, Russian (Battleship), was Nuked D4.
PLOT TWIST
*deletes post, starts over*

actually I deleted too much
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Could you explain the whole doubled-nukes thing about UT? It's been said a few times and I didn't understand it any of those times.
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Post Post #5926 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:07 pm

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gdi lld are you actually town ffs jfc mew
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Post Post #5927 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:07 pm

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In post 5926, Vi wrote:gdi lld are you actually town ffs jfc mew
yeah no fuckin' shit I'm actually town.
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Post Post #5928 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:10 pm

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When did Nahdia's V/LA start?
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Post Post #5929 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:11 pm

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I am not the SK. I remain not the SK, and you can happily lynch me and find out... not the SK.

This is top fucking news though.

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Post Post #5930 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:11 pm

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In post 5925, Vi wrote:You can just say my name.
I wasn't saying your name on purpose. It's possible Ceph just lied about who he targeted. Of course, that runs the risk of being outted if his actual target was nuked/lynched.
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Post Post #5931 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:23 pm

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In post 5930, Nahdia wrote:I wasn't saying your name on purpose. It's possible Ceph just lied about who he targeted. Of course, that runs the risk of being outted if his actual target was nuked/lynched.
I mean, there's also the possibility that Ceph didn't target his buddy. it's all wifom honestly
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Post Post #5932 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:23 pm

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In post 5929, GreyICE wrote:I am not the SK. I remain not the SK, and you can happily lynch me and find out... not the SK.

This is top fucking news though.

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Post Post #5933 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:27 pm

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So I owe Reck an apology. Sue me.
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Post Post #5934 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:28 pm

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I assume that at this point you are SK hunting?
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Post Post #5935 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:43 pm

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Votecount


GreyICE [3] - Lady Lambdadelta, Untrod Tripod, SpyreX
Untrod Tripod [1] - GreyICE


Not Voting [3] - MagnaofIllusion, Vi, Nahdia


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Post Post #5936 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:47 pm

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Given the odds that Vi is both the last scum and unlynchable? Hell yes. You are too, at least you're claiming to be.
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Post Post #5937 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:51 pm

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Never mind I found it.

Also posting to remind everyone to brace themselves for postgame when it's pointed out that the only two Americans who have ever tried to nuke scum thus far have been Mastin and hiplop. Prepare your spleens.

I still don't buy UT being Town pending MoI's argument. Like intentional nonentity+vanity nukes+being in wrong places at right times+the vote counts basically show the scum team imploding from day 1 so idgaf about counterwagons plus he could be Terrorist+butts.

GreyICE 4981 and company opens the question of "would someone be this wrong as scum", especially with the super-brash call scum hitting the Air Base instead of the claimed Cop WHILE assuming the scum assumed (without evidence) that the Cop was under Doctor protection, which actually managed to get the original Cephrir nuke called off. Nahdia around 4877 is the opposite, whether it looks like too much knowledge and not enough wishing for death.

I'm going to commit to SpyreX as Town because I don't know of any scum - or any person - who responds to "how badly do you have to suck to miss one of three scum in a group of three people" with "well what if I shoot myself" with a straight face. You can't really control anticipate all possible reactions but what the heck was
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LLD vs. Cephrir makes LLD look really positive. I don't wish to belabor the point of how much caution I have about giving the cat anything more than a bag of nip, such as a Town read, but etc.

I am consciously aware of how I have absolutely no read of any kind on Moai, nor any memory of anything he has posted.

Why were people saying hiplop was the Terrorist?
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well tbf hitting SK > hitting nuke Russian > hitting non-nuke Russian at this time, but any scum will do

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Post Post #5938 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:54 pm

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Wait, I get the UT-Terrorist thing now. Mastin targeted Papa Zito with a nuke (which could still have been recalled but whichever), and then the SK-Sub targeted Papa Zito before Mastin's nuke resolved.

Iiiiiii get iiiiiiiit
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Post Post #5939 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:00 pm

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In post 5905, Untrod Tripod wrote:
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hitching my wagon to the LLD train
So lets drill down on this. What do you like about LLD's arguments, UT? Because if you're saying "she can read me" let me assure you, her track record of this is SHIT. Team Mafia PYP - she swears that I am 100% scum, must be scum, absolutely have to be scum. I'm town. Neighborhood mafia (where we were all interlocking mini neighborhoods) I say that the neighborhood I was in with her was all town. She wigs out, insists I'm 100% scum, must flip scum, must be lynched. Results? I'm town, so was she, so were BOTH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. Death Note mafia, she insists I will absolutely 100% flip scum, she is willing to be lynched day 2 if she's wrong, she must be right, she can 100% read me. Town.

So UT, fill in the blanks. What do you like in her arguments, exactly? Besides the fact you don't get lynched today, obviously.
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Post Post #5940 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:04 pm

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Oh and to fill in the rest, she shoots me early as scum, and I do the same to her. I was the first person the scum night killed in the game - she is NOT cleared no matter what. I have trouble seeing why Spiffeh/Cephrir/Nukebringer/X shoots me immediately as their TOP PRIORITY SHOT if X is anyone other than MOI or LLD.
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Post Post #5941 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:11 pm

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In post 5937, Vi wrote:GreyICE 4981 and company opens the question of "would someone be this wrong as scum", especially with the super-brash call scum hitting the Air Base instead of the claimed Cop WHILE assuming the scum assumed (without evidence) that the Cop was under Doctor protection, which actually managed to get the original Cephrir nuke called off. Nahdia around 4877 is the opposite, whether it looks like too much knowledge and not enough wishing for death.

Sorry love, unless you think that I convinced my entire scumteam to no kill N2 in order to move myself up to primo Submarine target and clear myself of being ONE SPECIFIC TYPE of scum rather than just shooting LLD in her head, you're nuts. Hell, she'll even tell you you're nuts. Then tell you I'm the SK and you should lynch me anyway
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Post Post #5942 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:21 pm

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In post 5937, Vi wrote:To borrow a word from Moai, GreyICE being at L-1 is noted.
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Post Post #5943 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:35 pm

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In post 5940, GreyICE wrote:Oh and to fill in the rest, she shoots me early as scum, and I do the same to her. I was the first person the scum night killed in the game - she is NOT cleared no matter what. I have trouble seeing why Spiffeh/Cephrir/Nukebringer/X shoots me immediately as their TOP PRIORITY SHOT if X is anyone other than MOI or LLD.
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Post Post #5944 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:04 pm

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Fate wanted UT dead.

Still waiting on why Vi's entrance was bad, btw.
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Post Post #5945 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:11 pm

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In post 4996, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1, Andrius wrote:Stealth Bomber: Starting at DEFCON 2, you may deploy your Stealth Bomber once per Night Phase to kill a target player. This is a factional ability.
I'm thought factional meant that it didn't come from a specific player?
And not that he couldn't have just known to begin with, but it makes sense that Untrod would know this since RECK targeted him with the ACC the night he killed Fate.

ATM I much favor a Untrod lynch over a GreyICE lynch. Townreading them because they're SS' counterwagon only makes sense if you're only Russian hunting. Untrod could still have been a non-russian counterwagon to SS and still be terrorist.
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Post Post #5946 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:14 pm

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In post 5059, SpyreX wrote:Ok i need some logic spelled out nice and bullet pointed.

What in the christ all of a sudden with this discussion makes cephir town. Where is the night action that miraculously fixes what happened last night.
Its worth reading from.here

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Post Post #5947 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:25 pm

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In post 5945, Nahdia wrote:And not that he couldn't have just known to begin with, but it makes sense that Untrod would know this since RECK targeted him with the ACC the night he killed Fate.
...what?
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Post Post #5948 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:26 pm

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In post 5938, Vi wrote:Wait, I get the UT-Terrorist thing now. Mastin targeted Papa Zito with a nuke (which could still have been recalled but whichever), and then the SK-Sub targeted Papa Zito before Mastin's nuke resolved.

Iiiiiii get iiiiiiiit
...okay it's like two hours later and I'm looking at this now and this... doesn't resolve anything about UT. It only really works if the Terrorist knew that Mastin's nuke was going to fail...

...doesn't... it...?
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Post Post #5949 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:27 pm

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In post 5947, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 5945, Nahdia wrote:And not that he couldn't have just known to begin with, but it makes sense that Untrod would know this since RECK targeted him with the ACC the night he killed Fate.
...what?
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