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Post Post #6175 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:48 pm

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In post 6173, Vi wrote:Any reason why you want SpyreX lynched?
I flipped a coin between him and LLD.
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Post Post #6176 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:49 pm

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In post 6175, Nahdia wrote:
In post 6173, Vi wrote:Any reason why you want SpyreX lynched?
I flipped a coin between him and LLD.
Oh well as long as it's not
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randomness.

I'm assuming you think UT-Russian is right out?
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Post Post #6177 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:50 pm

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Of course not. The coin was fake. I just couldn't come up with a better reason.

Do you want "trusts my convictions despite my track record Nahdia" or "take a random stab because I have zero faith in my own abilities Nahdia"?
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Post Post #6178 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:51 pm

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It's a Magic-8-Nahdia
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Post Post #6179 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:52 pm

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Ask again later.

...As in, post-game.
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Post Post #6180 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:52 pm

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Hey, wait a minute.

If UT launches a nuke it's a scumclaim and SpyreX+LLD can do the slam jam before it lands. So that's not a concern.
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Post Post #6181 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:59 pm

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I don't think UT is Russian because of his being the counterwagon to SS, but I think he's Russian because putting a silo is defense mode has way more scum motivation than town motivation in my mind.

I don't think SpyreX is Russian because of their interaction with Ceph, specifically the fact that it got a "simmer down" from Andrius, but I think he's Russian because all game I've been wary of him and setting up plans where he's the sole survivor just assuming we'd trust him implicitly at this stage seems odd.

I don't think LLD is Russian because hell, I don't know, I doubt her rage came from scum, call me naive. I do think she's Russian because as Russian, she
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Post Post #6182 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:05 pm

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Why did i switch so fast? That nuke being defensive just broke me

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Post Post #6183 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:06 pm

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She's also not russian because she is confirmed to be not russian by the investigate role
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Post Post #6184 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:07 pm

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In post 6181, Nahdia wrote:Does it matter what I say about you, Vi? You're
literally
asking to be nuked. If fatalism is truly your last resort then good luck with that, sibling.
well to be fair there's no stopwatch on my life yet

I'll take whatever I can get for votes of confidence. Even if you didn't actually say that I'm Town and me having to do this is stupid, I'll mentally edit that in.

Tomorrow-now-today is a work day, so I will be going to sleep.
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please reconsider my request to ban everyone on the West Coast.

I want SpyreX to answer my question but
I'm going to do my part when I wake up, so any objections or better ideas need to come quickly.
UT 6183 wrote:She's also not russian because she is confirmed to be not russian by the investigate role
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Post Post #6185 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:07 pm

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and which investigative role, besides
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Post Post #6186 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:07 pm

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Which question I'm here
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Post Post #6187 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:08 pm

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Post Post #6188 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:09 pm

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In post 6180, Vi wrote:Hey, wait a minute.

If UT launches a nuke it's a scumclaim and SpyreX+LLD can do the slam jam before it lands. So that's not a concern.
yeah no shit. There was no reason I could think of to be launching nukes in 5p, 4p, or 3p.

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Post Post #6189 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:11 pm

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Actually hold on I had something for this
In post 6180, Vi wrote:Hey, wait a minute.

If UT launches a nuke it's a scumclaim and SpyreX+LLD can do the slam jam before it lands. So that's not a concern.
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Post Post #6190 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:19 pm

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Ok everyone lets approach this differently and fast.

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Post Post #6191 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:36 pm

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Yesterday I'd have said ut with a huge gap
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Post Post #6192 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:55 am

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In post 6181, Nahdia wrote:I don't think LLD is Russian because hell, I don't know, I doubt her rage came from scum, call me naive.
I fully expect LLD-scum to be capable of and willing to weaponize Cheetory's depression in order to get him to replace out, regardless of whether there was a tactical advantage to be gained.

TBQH I really don't want to be another statistic where LLD survives to endgame as scum, this time with a scummy deployment that has been remarked over and over again in this thread to be 100% consistent with her scum meta to take.

But I also don't want her to win at my expense because of how she got Cheetory to replace out.
Like that shit needs to get dunked on and if I were really clueless and couldn't decide in 3p LyLo I'd hammer that without apology. So thanks for making it hard, UT. (that being what
she
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SpyreX, I think the last angle I have not considered is that it would be feasible to nuke LLD (+ suicide) and then lynch UT. This would leave Nahdia alive.

FMPOV the optimal LyLo is you, me, and UT; but the chance of Moai letting that happen is low. As it is, I'd feel bad losing to
any
of these three.

But as mentioned previously, before entering the Day I would have said UT would be the one left alive.
Now I'm frankly not sure because of what a great idea it would be for scum to hit the Fail Safe and then block the retaliatory nuke.

Nuke to be launched when you respond. Death tailored to order.
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Post Post #6193 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:43 am

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This is too much power for one mortal omgggg

On my way to work, I'll think about it. Moi give me a siiign
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Post Post #6194 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:50 am

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God does vca show something obvious

I know moi saw like i did ut feels town from d1
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Post Post #6195 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:56 am

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Is someone with Fallout Shelter ahble to suicide even?

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Post Post #6196 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:03 am

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Post Post #6197 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:05 am

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Well, there's that.
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Post Post #6198 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:09 am

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In post 6181, Nahdia wrote:I do think she's Russian because as Russian, she had to get GreyICE lynched yesterday and quite frankly I still don't understand her case despite the flip.
also the MoI kill is very LLD
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Post Post #6199 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:22 am

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In post 6195, Nahdia wrote:Is someone with Fallout Shelter ahble to suicide even?

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It should be. I imagine this is the sort of thing that gets revealed on impact.

Also tbf I pretty clearly stated that the Fail Safe had to die last Night for the Russian to win. The exception, which I only just noticed overNight, is LLD. To that end before I read the thread I had some expectation of you to be the NK.
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