In post 12, Alisae wrote:Well Nyd.
I'm about to inform you that I am a 1-shot Novice Desperado.
That means I'm about to shoot you.
And if I die, you're confirmed town.
If you die, you're scum.
You ready for one of us to git rekt
Bombard: nydushermain
Serious claim.
One of us is gun git rekt
I'm really gonna love the time when you are actually a Desperado and nobodu believes you
In post 12, Alisae wrote:Well Nyd.
I'm about to inform you that I am a 1-shot Novice Desperado.
That means I'm about to shoot you.
And if I die, you're confirmed town.
If you die, you're scum.
You ready for one of us to git rekt
Bombard: nydushermain
Serious claim.
One of us is gun git rekt
I'm really gonna love the time when you are actually a Desperado and nobodu believes you
They won't need to believe me.
The mod will actually lock the thread and do a flip.
In post 12, Alisae wrote:Well Nyd.
I'm about to inform you that I am a 1-shot Novice Desperado.
That means I'm about to shoot you.
And if I die, you're confirmed town.
If you die, you're scum.
You ready for one of us to git rekt
Bombard: nydushermain
Serious claim.
One of us is gun git rekt
I'm really gonna love the time when you are actually a Desperado and nobodu believes you
They won't need to believe me.
The mod will actually lock the thread and do a flip.
In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.
What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through?
I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.
The phrasing here seems quite stilted and unnatural. Not sure whether it's natural style, early game awkwardness, or scumminess.
Probably a little bit of natural style and something else(not scum or early game awkwardness.).
I was a little conscious of that post through I'm kinda amazed you picked up on that. I rewrote that one like 3-4 times before I was satisfied with it. Originally it was going to be "what did you think of my case on karnos?" Instead of the highlighted section. But then it occurred to me that alisae is a player that will sheep their town reads. I didn't want to contaminate alisae's answer with my own thoughts. I wanted to see what type of answer alisae would produce and if I could get anything information on his alignment out of it.
OK, so what did Alisae's answer (121) tell you, if anything?
For my two cents: I am town reading Alisae, for things like post 84. I appreciate Alisae for calling out Lickety for being so OTT in his misguided pursuit of me. I think it's generally towny to ask follow up questions like Alisae did. The suggestion that it might have all been a misunderstanding (95) seems like an attempt to get to truth and not a scummy attempt to slander.
But XJordan's response in 91 took it way too far. His counter to Lickety looked way OTT, not to mention opportunistic. I did find it ironic that he told Lickety to go back to the newbie queue, then committed the cardinal newbie sin of answering a question that was directed at someone else.
The weird bit - Alisae asked XJordan to 'wagon it' with him, and Jordan didn't do so. And Karnos voted Lickety straight after. Jordan, meanwhile sticks with his RVS vote on Alisae. Gut feel is that Jordan was afraid of looking opportunistic for voting Lickety. My vote was RVS on Jordan, but now it's serious.
Revote so it comes up in the Mod's VCA stuff:
VOTE: XJordan for serious this time
<<< Actually, the way my votecounts work is that only changes in votes get noted. If a player casts multiple votes in a post, only the one at the very end counts; if a player changes their vote in one post, but immediately switches back in their next post, I still note the change; if a player doesn't change their vote at all and just revotes for emphasis, it doesn't get noted.
There is a slight exception: if a player unvotes someone, and in that same post, votes a different player, I will mark the unvote. However, if a person is merely unvoting who they are already voting and revoting that person, I will still not note it. >>>
In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.
What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through?
I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.
The phrasing here seems quite stilted and unnatural. Not sure whether it's natural style, early game awkwardness, or scumminess.
Probably a little bit of natural style and something else(not scum or early game awkwardness.).
I was a little conscious of that post through I'm kinda amazed you picked up on that. I rewrote that one like 3-4 times before I was satisfied with it. Originally it was going to be "what did you think of my case on karnos?" Instead of the highlighted section. But then it occurred to me that alisae is a player that will sheep their town reads. I didn't want to contaminate alisae's answer with my own thoughts. I wanted to see what type of answer alisae would produce and if I could get anything information on his alignment out of it.
OK, so what did Alisae's answer (121) tell you, if anything?
For my two cents: I am town reading Alisae, for things like post 84. I appreciate Alisae for calling out Lickety for being so OTT in his misguided pursuit of me. I think it's generally towny to ask follow up questions like Alisae did. The suggestion that it might have all been a misunderstanding (95) seems like an attempt to get to truth and not a scummy attempt to slander.
But XJordan's response in 91 took it way too far. His counter to Lickety looked way OTT, not to mention opportunistic. I did find it ironic that he told Lickety to go back to the newbie queue, then committed the cardinal newbie sin of answering a question that was directed at someone else.
The weird bit - Alisae asked XJordan to 'wagon it' with him, and Jordan didn't do so. And Karnos voted Lickety straight after. Jordan, meanwhile sticks with his RVS vote on Alisae. Gut feel is that Jordan was afraid of looking opportunistic for voting Lickety. My vote was RVS on Jordan, but now it's serious.
Revote so it comes up in the Mod's VCA stuff:
VOTE: XJordan for serious this time
I kinda liked it for the most part
What I liked
I never thought about the possibility of jordan being scum. Because I was focused on the answers not why he interjected. Which is my short coming there.
Alisae could of easily jumped on to sheep karnos a scum read on karnos as well. But instead it looks us that alisae is trying to decide if karnos is scum or not. Which combined with alisae previous actions seem town.
There was one problem I had through.
That alisae keeped his vote on LQ instead of moving to jordan. He seemed to of placed a much stronger case and it seemed like he was leaning towards jordan.
Actually after rereading jordan in iso he never once indicated a scum read on LQ or language that you would use on a scum read. So him not voting there does make sense.
The interjecting was bad and I give props for alisae for noticing that but honestly I felt karnos post were a lot worse and we are more likely to hit scum there.
Hmmm. I guess that 'language you would use on a scum read' is in the eye of the beholder. If I'd called out Lickety like XJordan did, I would have followed up with a vote.
You are right that Karnos is not exactly covering himself in glory, either. His vote does look opportunistic.
I would like to ask Jordan what his read on Lickety is.
Transcend: His name is Jordan backwards, just call him Jordan.
Something_Smart: Your name is Dnecsnart backwards, should I call you Dnecsnart?
Transcend: lol that actually sounds funny
Transcend: His name is Jordan backwards, just call him Jordan.
Something_Smart: Your name is Dnecsnart backwards, should I call you Dnecsnart?
Transcend: lol that actually sounds funny
In post 84, Alisae wrote:I asked for reasons knowing not to take them seriously as well. Does that make me scum?
How do you know they were going to take the reasons seriously?
And why can't they ask for reasons if they are town?
What makes you think they are attempting to push the game forward.
How do you know you aren't taking their post the wrong way?
1) That isn't all you did though.
2) Can you tell me they were not going to? Why would you think that? I see more reason to believe they would than they wouldn't; its the simplest explanation, Occam's Razor.
3) They can, but tbh it looks like a really weird place to ask that. Again, that is all shannon has done. Its a really simple question to ask. The trick is finding out if it is out of place or not and I think it is.
4) I think its a fake way to
look
like you are trying to push the game forward.
5) I could be. Its not a solid read at all. It is, however, an actual starting point out of RVS.
1) that's all you accused him of
2) the onus is on you to explain they were
3) again, onus is on you to say that it's not town rather than just say it's out of place without explaining
4) That could be said of anything, invalid point.
5) then if it's not a solid read why didn't you solidify it or clarify? You just immediately threw the accusation without trying to look at it or pressuring her.
PEdit: clearly you need to go back to a Newbie game for people to take your analysis seriously.
I destroyed his case and threw back a comment at him about Newbieness in counter for HIS comment.
In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisae
for reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;
This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.
VOTE: shannon
1. That's a bullshit scumtell.
2. Its protown to ask for reasons, would you like it if I voted you right now and called you scummy for asking me why?
3. If it's clear it's RVS to you then you should know that everything is said in a jovial manner until something happens.
4. I don't think you know what obvious scum means.
PEdit: ninjaed point 3
The original destroying of his post
As you can see, my posts mostly indicated how he played badly, over he played scummily.
Karnos in the other hand, I expressed a clear scumread on him, "Most Bullshit defence", "warrants a lynch", "rather push a karnos wagon" was what I said. Here, his play looked opportunistic, hence scummy, while LQ play is simply bad.
At the current moment, karnos not possibly being scumpartners with LQ leads to more reason not to scumread him, as I scumread karnos at the current moment. I'm remaining null instead of a townread, as this still has the small chance of being staged, e.g. LQ puts out the BS case for Karnos to vote and try to start a wagon for town red(I've seen it happen).
I would advise lynching karnos over LQ for above reasons.
Now with all the possible questions I can think of fended off, I am going to move on to other topics.
I TR Alisae for similar reasons to why he is universally TRed, however i would however prefer his vote to be in karnos.
Garmr and Shannon are Town for now, creating active discussion. If Shannon or Garmr was scum, I don't think scum wants to put in the extra effort of creating discussion points and noticing things that probably won't get lynched. However, this is one of the less solid tells, hence the For Now.
Again, everyone voting LQ I suggest swapping to karnos, thanks.
Transcend: His name is Jordan backwards, just call him Jordan.
Something_Smart: Your name is Dnecsnart backwards, should I call you Dnecsnart?
Transcend: lol that actually sounds funny
Transcend: His name is Jordan backwards, just call him Jordan.
Something_Smart: Your name is Dnecsnart backwards, should I call you Dnecsnart?
Transcend: lol that actually sounds funny
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