Mini Normal 1873 (Game Over)

[Lexa]

Given that Pep saw no pressure outside of my attempt to bring him to attention and thereby assuming that scum did not need to pressure him the following conclusions are drawn from the premises.

IF
a) Scum have a planned mislynch
THEN they expect to be able to flip the karnos wagon to All Alone or LQ

b) It's a buddy
THEN...I don't actually know the implications of that yet

c) Scum don't need to (planned bus, town eating itself, etc)
THEN...the voting patterns don't make sense

[Garmr]

I have been thinking that scum probally have a rolecop as they would have no reason to kill allone after all the cases against him.

I would look for players who dropped there scum read of him day 2.

[Garmr]

I have been thinking that scum probally have a rolecop as they would have no reason to kill allone after all the cases against him.

I would look for players who dropped there scum read of him day 2.

I will say they were bad cases but bad cases seem to get lynches.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I have been thinking that scum probally have a rolecop as they would have no reason to kill allone after all the cases against him.

I would look for players who dropped there scum read of him day 2.

Occums Razor.

That's just going to lead us down a wild goose chase

[Lexa]

Garmr, your thoughts on Devil and Shannon?

my thoughts are devil is probably town and shannon is scum. Lexa is scum as I don't see the point in roleblocker and I do't see why a roleblocker would lie about their role.

I explained this exact question in an earlier post from TB. As far as I was concerned, Alisae's claim was blatantly false and intended to divert attention from them. I had no intention of giving what I thought was the scum team free information, particularly with the pubclaimed JOAT having used most of their shots, and particularly when roleblocker is a role that increases in power over time when there's a greater chance I can block the scum killer. Announcing my role there gives scum easy motivation to kill me and doesn't give a bodyguard a reason to target me necessarily when conf!towns exist.

[Titus]

The only one I've come up with so far is that scum is in fact pressuring the lurker but that would mean I'm scum so I'm still puzzling.

Although admitting this makes me wonder why scum!you would say that

Yeah I haven't thought Lexa's scum for awhile.

[Lexa]

b) It's a buddy
THEN...I don't actually know the implications of that yet

I'm coming up empty on this one, can't fathom what it would mean to the current game state (outside of Titus being scum) if Pep wasn't getting pressured because he was a buddy with karnos and the other scum

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

What I do find interesting is that excluding the possibility of role cop, the only not dead player All Alone disagreed with or had ill-manners towards was Prana

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

What I do find interesting is that excluding the possibility of role cop, the only not dead player All Alone disagreed with or had ill-manners towards was Prana

Admittedly, it's also weak reasoning as he didn't really say much at all.

[Titus]

Why has mass claim been aborted with two of the scummiest slots left to claim?

[Garmr]

I still think lexa is scum.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Titus have you claimed? Really i want a mass claim at this point because only two people, I think Titus maybe as well, haven't done so.

[Titus]

Titus have you claimed? Really i want a mass claim at this point because only two people, I think Titus maybe as well, haven't done so.

Nope and I want my scum suspect to claims first.

I believe Devil and Shannon have not claimed.

[Lexa]

shannon claimed a JOAT with a doctor, a bodyguard, and something else if I recall correctly

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

1. shannon - JOAT (1-shot jailkeeper,1-shot doctor,1-shot bodyguard)
3. TheRealGin-N-Tonic - JOAT (1-shot cop, 1-shot gunsmith, 1-shot neapolitan)
5. Titus - No claim
6. Lexa - Roleblocker
8. ThinkBig - Vanilla
10. Garmr - Vanilla
13. PranaDevil - No claim

[Titus]

I do believe Devil should claim first.

Gin, I'm rather curious about your reads?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I am as well

[Titus]

Dude, I'm not drinking enough to play guess the twenty questions. Who are you TRing? Who are you SRing?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Well completely honest, my reads are shaky and weak.

For what they are, I think:

Garmr, town
Lexa which can only be described as the Facebook "It's Complicated" town but like, scum blocked makes sense
You are town off of a gut read
Thinkbig is conf!town
Shannon I still don't like and I think it's a fake claim
Prana feels town but I haven't dug hard.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I mostly get bad vibes from Prana's and karnos' interactions

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

karnos, please use the nn-existent venge-kill on me, I beg of you. Especially as I said pressure not "claim", blatant misrepping of what I said.

This really pings

[mastina]

Do scum have daychat?

GAME SPECIFIC:

1. This game is explicitly 10:3 town:mafia.
   
2. Any and all game topics will remain open the entire game.
   
   
3. The mafia may both kill and action.

^Game topics include scum topics, so.

[PranaDevil]

Yeah, not claiming, nass claim was abandoned as it never started. People claimed for good reasons (see: Gin worrying about dying and pretty much clearing two people, with BBT's death proving that). Then Lexa was told to claim by Alisae and gave a fake claim, which made no real sense to do in the first place, then Gin investigated her and found she wasn't vanilla (which thinking about it... more proof Gin is town surely?) So she had to re-claim. Not sure about if that means she's town or not though.

Shannon claimed JOAT-doc style after Lexa's RB claim was called out, with absolutely no pressure to do so.

There's been no mass claim, and you can get stuffed if you think I'm starting it.

Also, ignoring everything else to focus on VCA does prove something else, that you miss reasoning, as proven by asking for it, and then getting really bad results. Check interactions between me and Alisae for why he was an obvious lynch, and why he should have been the lynch D2, rather than LQ who was lynched in just a few hours (I went to sleep, woke up and he's gone).

Anyway, now we have content from the Pep slot, we can at least lynch Lexa, then the shannon/Garmr pairing gets dealt with, then victory.

vote: Lexa

[shannon]

I have been thinking that scum probally have a rolecop as they would have no reason to kill allone after all the cases against him.

I would look for players who dropped there scum read of him day 2.

Scum has a role cop. Gin has claimed to have a role cop. Coincidence?

Also interesting that Gin is starting to change his read on Lexa based on Titus's VCA.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

How can you say scum have a role cop? 100%

What do you know that we dont?