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[Titus]

Well at this point I believe there is only benefit to her claiming.

This. With TB being lock death tonight, what's the harm?

Other than not claiming can you tell me why prana is scum titus?

Vca.

Oh really how so?

Read my entry posts. Mr. I'm so smart Titus should read.

You're deflecting from mass claim happening today

[Garmr]

Well at this point I believe there is only benefit to her claiming.

This. With TB being lock death tonight, what's the harm?

Other than not claiming can you tell me why prana is scum titus?

Vca.

Oh really how so?

Read my entry posts. Mr. I'm so smart Titus should read.

You're deflecting from mass claim happening today

Leaning town on PranaDevil

, because of the fact scum are not jumping onto karnos

I'm at the end of day 1, and I'm leaning towards a Prana flip.

What was your N1 result Pine?

You basically went from prana is town to prana is scum with out explaining it

Alisae - 3 (PranaDevil, nydushermain, shannon)
XnadrojX - 2 (karnos, Alisae)
karnos - 2 (Garmr, XnadrojX)

Garmr and the three names on Alisae have major scumpoints to here, but there is little to zero chance that there are two scum on the Alisae wagon, as they'd likely jump onto X wagon

Also what kind of logic is this i'm scum for starting the wagon on scum?

[Garmr]

your vca is shallow and has no reasoning behind it. So i ask again do you have any reasoning for prana being scum?

[Garmr]

Your vca and your scum reads contridict each other as well. (from post 1442) for example and these two posts

Alisae - 3 (PranaDevil, nydushermain, shannon)
XnadrojX - 2 (karnos, Alisae)
karnos - 2 (Garmr, XnadrojX)

Garmr

and the three names on Alisae have major scumpoints to here, but there is little to zero chance that there are two scum on the Alisae wagon, as they'd likely jump onto X wagon

karnos - 6 (Garmr, XnadrojX, BlueBloodedToffee, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, PranaDevil, ThinkBig)[/color]
All Alone - 2 (Lexa, LicketyQuickety)
ThinkBig - 2 (shannon, Alisae)
LicketyQuickety - 1 (All Alone)
XnadrojX - 1 (karnos)

Not Voting - 2 (Pepchoninga)

This ending suggests a

mass bus after the scum failed to get a town wagon to counter.

Although, if I'm candid, I'd suspect my slot for not even trying during this wagon. The lack of a counter = ineffective scum or lurker scum.

We have ineffective scum here and I know that because I am in the slot of lurker.

So again reasoning that aren't your provenenly shit vca?

[Titus]

*shrug* It's pretty clear I view the d1 wagon on Karnos as a bus becayse scum failed to get a counter.

You can get melodramatic because I am playing correctly, or you can just actually listen.

[ThinkBig]

It's intesting that I proposed a mass claim today and Garmr/Devil are the only ones who still are opposed to it

Unvote: Lexa
Vote: Devil

For pressure

Also with how fast the Karnos wagon was built it is almost impossible for it to be an all town wagon.

[mastina]

Fortieth Votecount

:

(Tenth Votecount D4)

Lexa - 2 (Garmr, PranaDevil)

PranaDevil - 2 (Titus, ThinkBig)

Not Voting - 3 (TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Lexa, shannon)

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Lexa is at L-2.
PranaDevil is at L-2.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, February 28th, @ 9:00 PM PST--(expired on 2017-03-01 01:00:14).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• ThinkBig is V/LA over weekends.

[Titus]

It's intesting that I proposed a mass claim today and Garmr/Devil are the only ones who still are opposed to it

Unvote: Lexa
Vote: Devil

For pressure

Also with how fast the Karnos wagon was built it is almost impossible for it to be an all town wagon.

inb4 Devil says no or Titus has to go first because she's in favor or some other bullshit excuse

[Lexa]

Pressure voting kind of loses its purpose when you announce

Btw mastina I set my vote on Shannon a while ago

<<< "lynch shannon"? Not a valid vote, sorry. >>>

[Titus]

Pressure voting kind of loses its purpose when you announce

Btw mastina I set my vote on Shannon a while ago

Not always. If a player knows the vote stays until a particular event, then pressure works. It's random pressure votes that generally don't.

[Titus]

Just going to highlight PD logged in three hours ago...no post here

Ask DGB said (paraphrase), fakeclaims are a bitch

[PranaDevil]

Well spotted. Was in the middle of a long game of multiplayer MTG commander, and a mate had a long turn so checked to see what was posted. You'll find I already said I was busy this weekend but would at least try and read where possible to keep up to date.

Also, claim? Nope, lynch me if you fancy. Not claiming.

Either you think I'm scum, at which point have actual reasons for it, or you don't think I'm scum, in which case vote for scum.

We already know scum is in the pairings of:

Shannon/Garmr and Myself/Lexa.

I know I'm town, so I'm fine with lynching Lexa obviously, and shannon is more likely scum than Garmr.

Titus seems to not understand there's more to the game than VCA, thus I've decided to ignore them because they offer sweet feck all to the game beyond a lot of hot air and failure to read anything to understand why votes went where they did (which, if you do VCA without that, you are already losing the game).

Titus can read the thread, or accept they will be deemed to be as useful in that slot as Pep was, for town at least, if somehow they're scum (possible, but loosely so based on my previous theory), they're doing a cracking job of stuffing things up for town.

[ThinkBig]

@Devil, can you at least say if you are a PR or not?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The reason I'm starting to think you're scum is because you won't claim.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

We already went over that if you claim, you still won't be dying because of the fact that TB and I have to die so there are not two conf!town in LyLo.

At this point it's anti-town to not claim.

[shannon]

Also, why is Lexa at L-1 when:

I was asked to unvote her earlier when I put her at L-1
We are all waiting to hear about Titus' VC, and Titus has indicated she thinks Lexa might not be scum
Gin, who you are all saying is conf town, is also starting to be a bit up in the air about Lexa

Town posting or Lexa buddy.

I do have a couple concerns on Gin but they are role related.

If I were with Lexa I'd have bussed the hell out of her for town cred.

I think Lexa is a better lynch because:
1. He lied about his role (I am a firm believer in lynching all liars, that is unless a doctor or cop claims VT in order to investigate and avoid the NK);

So you're okay with lying if you think it's justified. Do you not think I was justified given my reasoning?

Given all we've discussed I think the best option is to

lynch shannon

, her claim being a functional cc to my claim makes it very unlikely we both are town

Be careful saying that, I'm going to flip town.


@Prana claim or get lynched. We don't have time for this BS.

[Titus]

It's intesting that I proposed a mass claim today and Garmr/Devil are the only ones who still are opposed to it

Unvote: Lexa
Vote: Devil

For pressure

Also with how fast the Karnos wagon was built it is almost impossible for it to be an all town wagon.

inb4 Devil says no or Titus has to go first because she's in favor or some other bullshit excuse

[ThinkBig]

Devil if you don't claim, you are going to get lynched. At least say if you are a PR or not.

[ThinkBig]

Pressure voting kind of loses its purpose when you announce

Btw mastina I set my vote on Shannon a while ago

Where did you vote Shannon? I don't see it in your ISO.

[Lexa]

1575

[Lexa]

Unless that's not accepted as a standard lynch format and I'm too used to talk voting from my home meta in which case confirming VOTE: shannon

<<< My rules are rather unambiguous there.

Voting must be bolded or in vote tags to be counted. If I recognize who it's for, it counts.

So a bolded "Vote: Playername" will count; a bolded "vote player" would count, any vote tag will count, but bold other than "vote playername", or an unbolded "VOTE: Playername" will not count. >>>

[ThinkBig]

I think you need to bold

Vote: shannon

In order for it to be counted. I didn't interpret it as a vote either.

(Note: Not voted because I do NOT want this to count)

<<< This is correct. Bolded "Vote: playername" will count. Unbolded "vote: playername" will not; other ways of bolding a playername will not count. I can only count a clear, unambiguous vote, and the only way for me to know it is a clear, unambiguous vote is to see the word vote, or have it be inside vote tags. >>>

[ThinkBig]

Unless that's not accepted as a standard lynch format and I'm too used to talk voting from my home meta in which case confirming VOTE: shannon

My home site uses VTL (vote to lynch) Player name as the standard way to vote.

[Titus]

You need to vote or use tags

Vote: Devil

and

VOTE: Devil

while

Vote Devil is not.

I'm flexible as a mod. If it's intended, I count it.

<<< I, too, will count a vote if it is intended as one. However, I need to recognize it as clear, unambiguous intent to vote. Unbolded leaves ambiguity; not using the word "vote" leaves ambiguity. >>>

[Lexa]

On my home site any bolded vote or lynch (name) works