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[ThinkBig]

Your conclusion would also imply that my vote on All Alone was opportunistic lynch bait and I'm quite confident that he wasn't lynch bait but rather a genuine lynch candidate in my eyes given my post analysis.

There is a difference between opportunistic push from scum and genuinely seeing someone as scum and pushing them for an easy mislynch. Keep in mind I also voted AA and LQ.

[mastina]

Forty-first Votecount

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(Eleventh Votecount D4)

Lexa - 2 (Garmr, PranaDevil)

PranaDevil - 2 (Titus, ThinkBig)

shannon - 1 (Lexa)

Not Voting - 2 (TheRealGin-N-Tonic, shannon)

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Lexa is at L-2.
PranaDevil is at L-2.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, February 28th, @ 9:00 PM PST--(expired on 2017-03-01 01:00:14).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• ThinkBig is V/LA over weekends.

[ThinkBig]

@mod I stole your page top.

<<< Oh yeah?
Well I stole your double-post, you...you...you double-poster! How do you like

that

?!? >>>

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

@mod I stole your page top.

<<< Oh yeah?
Well I stole your double-post, you...you...you double-poster! How do you like

that

?!? >>>

You truly are the queen of shade mastina

<<< For now.
See, shade is subservient to shadow, which is subservient to darkness, and I'm planning on usurping the throne from the rulers of darkness itself. Which is technically supposed to be a secret, but everyone knows anyway. >>>

[Garmr]

Garmr, why are you trying to discredit a claim before one has even claimed?

It's not that i'm trying to discredit it I just experienced this type of shit from before they are vague and make it seem like they have a result and then they go back on it when the lynch going oh you just assumed I did. I want her to put a stance down so I can figure out whats going on.

[Garmr]

Your conclusion would also imply that my vote on All Alone was opportunistic lynch bait and I'm quite confident that he wasn't lynch bait but rather a genuine lynch candidate in my eyes given my post analysis.

All alone was a trash vote tbh like alisae. I went on a limb and defends this stance before yet again I was ignored.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Garmr, why are you trying to discredit a claim before one has even claimed?

It's not that i'm trying to discredit it I just experienced this type of shit from before they are vague and make it seem like they have a result and then they go back on it when the lynch going oh you just assumed I did. I want her to put a stance down so I can figure out whats going on.

Nah, let Prana deal with it himself. Prana doesn't need you to defend himself.

[shannon]

Maybe it's my headache talking but I can tell there's a plan but not what the plan is. Seems like Gin and Titus are on the same page, so rad, let me know when to vote and who to vote x

[Garmr]

Garmr, why are you trying to discredit a claim before one has even claimed?

It's not that i'm trying to discredit it I just experienced this type of shit from before they are vague and make it seem like they have a result and then they go back on it when the lynch going oh you just assumed I did. I want her to put a stance down so I can figure out whats going on.

Nah, let Prana deal with it himself. Prana doesn't need you to defend himself.

Look you seem nice but I need to vent a little sorry

You have pretty much annoyed me multiple times this game and I feel pissed off at you now. First was your behaviour around karnos's flip. When you acted all high and mighty saying it was a basic concept ect. Karnos flipped scum.

Then the lq wagon I was pretty much fine with you until day 3 when you were like it's all garmrs fault and saying I tempted you and shit. Stop shifting the blame off yourself so you don't have to feel guilty. My points were solid otherwise I wouldn't be able to drive the wagon and you know what I think the wagon was all town at this momment.

Then you went along with the shit case on alisae. Alisae is a known village idiot I told you that and I told you why him being indesive and flaily was null but you didn't listen and accused me of being scum for defending him. Also despite you acting all high and mighty day 3 about it I only made a couple of comments at the start of the day and continued on there.

Now your doing the same thing with pranadevil instead of looking over the whole game. You jump on his village idiot actions instead of his whole game. You don't fucking learn and continue playing a shallow game.

Now that may sound harsh but atleast your night actions have been somewhat on point and you stopped some mislynches with them.


To answer your question through it's not about prana defending himself it's about stopping a misconception that could cause the game to fail.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

A basic concept that scum don't claim Vengeful because it's a promised lynch. The dude did a horrid play and quite honestly against his wincoin. Although, i don't remember acting all high and mighty. Unless you mean how I begged the doctor onto me because I have the investigative roles. I feigned arrogance so that scum wouldn't dare touch me or actually get the doc.

LQ wagon, what you're saying here is what I can assume is this quote

I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol

Yeah, I retold what happened. I town read LQ, you made a huge deal saying LQ was scum over Alisae, and then I took your opinion, formed my own and took off with it. I didn't put all the blame onto you

It also wasn't about Alisae being a VI, that's how I got the town read on her from the first place, it was what was perceived as a counterwagon by you to get heat off of Alisae so we rushed the slot.

Now, here's where things change. Prana isn't a Village idiot and I don't know where you got that from. Also considering that I've been town reading Prana, that leads to reason as to why I'm actually alive today and the same for Lexa as after the Alisae flip, heat was indeed being pressured on the Lexa slot.

What also changes is that once Titus joined, there has been a lot of actual discussion going on about reads instead of the quick lynching and you call my play abysmal.

You didn't call my play abysmal when I was running up Lexa but now that I'm pushing Prana, you're doing everything in your power to say my play is shit and that I shouldn't think the way I am because I should feel bad.

This is twice now that you've blown up and now that you're actually back and playing, I see it as a facade. It reads fake.

So yeah, I'm lynching Prana today.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also lol at the fact that you say I haven't been reading the thread when I actually had day start scum read Shannon and Lexa and then because of re-reading I flipped to a Prana/Garmr scum read.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

For the record, if you actually wanted me to move my vote, you wouldn't spend a lot of time defending Prana, you should be focusing me on placing my vote elsewhere.

[Garmr]

Also lol at the fact that you say I haven't been reading the thread when I actually had day start scum read Shannon and Lexa and then because of re-reading I flipped to a Prana/Garmr scum read.

Never said you weren't reading the thread just you don't learn from your mistakes.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Why do you want me to feel bad about my Prana vote so much?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You're saying I made mistakes in the past so I should stop doing what I am now.

The only difference here is that if you actually wanted to bitch at me, you would have done that at Day start, not when I start pushing Prana

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also lol at the fact that you say I haven't been reading the thread when I actually had day start scum read Shannon and Lexa and then because of re-reading I flipped to a Prana/Garmr scum read.

Never said you weren't reading the thread just you don't learn from your mistakes.

Also, you did in fact say i wasn't going over the thread with what you said below

Now your doing the same thing with pranadevil instead of looking over the whole game.

[Garmr]

For the record, if you actually wanted me to move my vote, you wouldn't spend a lot of time defending Prana, you should be focusing me on placing my vote elsewhere.

The point is I have a scum read on lexa and titus are you willing to shift to any of those.


pedit
Feel bad? I'm just trying to stop a mislynch. But if you want to go and lynch prana that's fine go do it. Just know I'm going to be instantly voting titus once prana flips town.

If I'm wrong I will get mislynched but at that point the game should be pretty much solved so I Don't really have to much to worry about there.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'm asking one more question and then waiting for all the responses, why is it that I made an entire post responding to each point you made in your rant and you decide to not engage in it and respond to the addendum?

[Garmr]

Also lol at the fact that you say I haven't been reading the thread when I actually had day start scum read Shannon and Lexa and then because of re-reading I flipped to a Prana/Garmr scum read.

Never said you weren't reading the thread just you don't learn from your mistakes.

Also, you did in fact say i wasn't going over the thread with what you said below

Now your doing the same thing with pranadevil instead of looking over the whole game.

That's not accusing you of not reading that's accusing you of not disregarding the whole games worth of content on one vi move.

[Garmr]

I'm asking one more question and then waiting for all the responses, why is it that I made an entire post responding to each point you made in your rant and you decide to not engage in it and respond to the addendum?

You were still posting and it's easier to post the small shit and then get to the big shit when you stop talking.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The point is I have a scum read on lexa and titus are you willing to shift to any of those.


pedit
Feel bad? I'm just trying to stop a mislynch. But if you want to go and lynch prana that's fine go do it. Just know I'm going to be instantly voting titus once prana flips town.

If I'm wrong I will get mislynched but at that point the game should be pretty much solved so I Don't really have to much to worry about there.

Prove that Lexa is scum, don't just say Lexa is scum.

Also prove that Prana is town, I'm not buying you having a fit and saying "just agree with me because you've been playing bad"

[Garmr]

A basic concept that scum don't claim Vengeful because it's a promised lynch. The dude did a horrid play and quite honestly against his wincoin. Although, i don't remember acting all high and mighty. Unless you mean how I begged the doctor onto me because I have the investigative roles. I feigned arrogance so that scum wouldn't dare touch me or actually get the doc.

LQ wagon, what you're saying here is what I can assume is this quote

I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol

Yeah, I retold what happened. I town read LQ, you made a huge deal saying LQ was scum over Alisae, and then I took your opinion, formed my own and took off with it. I didn't put all the blame onto you

It also wasn't about Alisae being a VI, that's how I got the town read on her from the first place, it was what was perceived as a counterwagon by you to get heat off of Alisae so we rushed the slot.

Now, here's where things change. Prana isn't a Village idiot and I don't know where you got that from. Also considering that I've been town reading Prana, that leads to reason as to why I'm actually alive today and the same for Lexa as after the Alisae flip, heat was indeed being pressured on the Lexa slot.

What also changes is that once Titus joined, there has been a lot of actual discussion going on about reads instead of the quick lynching and you call my play abysmal.

You didn't call my play abysmal when I was running up Lexa but now that I'm pushing Prana, you're doing everything in your power to say my play is shit and that I shouldn't think the way I am because I should feel bad.

This is twice now that you've blown up and now that you're actually back and playing, I see it as a facade. It reads fake.

So yeah, I'm lynching Prana today.

1.Scum will fake claim anything if they think it will work your basic concept is pretty bad. I just had scum fake claim miller day 1 and win it in another game.

2.That's really bad logic. The points made day 3 were alisae jerky reaction to karnos (you had one as well) and alisae fake claim guilty when near lynch which is vi behaviour. The counter wagon point was never pushed as a primary reason and doesn't even factor alisae play. This is bad logic with out other post backing it up.

3.I said/meant his acting like a village idiot with his refusing to claim. It's a anti town move but not a scum one. Your choosing to push this as a scum point.

4.Yeah now there's discussion but it's surface level shit. Titus's so called vca doesn't factor in player reasoning ect and is superficial glass stuff. The fact you can't even regonize where she contradicts herself makes me cringe.

5.Actually I had a go at you and think big at the start of the day (mostly think big) but I let it go to advance the game now your doing the same shit over i'm not taking it standing.

6.Get over yourself if you think this blowing up. I'm putting you in your place.

[Garmr]

If you also want to know yes this game I think I am the better player than you.

[Garmr]

Also out of bbt and you bbt was killed let that sink in for a second.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also out of bbt and you bbt was killed let that sink in for a second.

That means my reads where bad Garmr, that's what it means.

I know how to manipulate a game based off of who and who not to kill. You can be a great game solver and charismatic but as long as you have bad reads, you'll be kept alive.

Now that my reads have changed, I don't suspect that I'll live past tonight.

Also, if Prana is town, whoever hammers before the claim will be a deadset scum claim, this is L-1
VOTE: Prana