Mini Normal 1873 (Game Over)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ya know, I honestly town read Prana for her getting all pissy at me about wanting to be doc'd

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ya know, I honestly town read Prana for her getting all pissy at me about wanting to be doc'd

Oh fuck me, I gave context

Sorry Titus, this post isn't meant for you...

[PranaDevil]

C, you're really going to postulate I'm scum with Shannon just to excuse you not voting me?

I already said the two scum are amongst yourself, Lexa and shannon, and while I know you are scum. I have to work out whether you are bussing Lexa or are trying to get town lynched there. You'd know this if you kept up.

and I love you pretend I haven't been riding your ass for days and my VCA wasn't done stream of consciousness to let others follow.

Oh right, of course... hold on a moment.

Alisae - 5 (PranaDevil, BlueBloodedToffee, ThinkBig, Lexa, TheRealGin-N-Tonic)[/color]
Lexa - 1 (Alisae)

What happened here? Did Prana fake a guilty on Alisae?

The FINAL post of the VCA stuff.

I'm thinking more Shannon, PranaDevil as my top two myself at the moment but I need to organize my thoughts before coming down with where I'd like to focus.

The FIRST Titus pairing

Also, why is Lexa at L-1 when:

I was asked to unvote her earlier when I put her at L-1
We are all waiting to hear about Titus' VC, and Titus has indicated she thinks Lexa might not be scum
Gin, who you are all saying is conf town, is also starting to be a bit up in the air about Lexa

Town posting or Lexa buddy.

I do have a couple concerns on Gin but they are role related.

The SECOND Titus pairing... notice the post numbers come after the VCA stuff? notice how the team is Lexa/shannon at this point? Hmmm

I think Lexa is a better lynch because:
1. He lied about his role (I am a firm believer in lynching all liars, that is unless a doctor or cop claims VT in order to investigate and avoid the NK);

So you're okay with lying if you think it's justified. Do you not think I was justified given my reasoning?

Given all we've discussed I think the best option is to

lynch shannon

, her claim being a functional cc to my claim makes

it very unlikely we both are town

I can agree on this post. only difference is i think you are both scum.

This is opportunistic as fuck.

We have a dead rolecop.

Gin claimed a cop type role.

ThinkBig has postulated a follower.

This just lets you lynch all the PRs. Chill.

You yourself said the possibility

Also, why is Lexa at L-1 when:

I was asked to unvote her earlier when I put her at L-1
We are all waiting to hear about Titus' VC, and Titus has indicated she thinks Lexa might not be scum
Gin, who you are all saying is conf town, is also starting to be a bit up in the air about Lexa

Town posting or

Lexa buddy.

I do have a couple concerns on Gin but they are role related.

I already declared I think both are scum.

Even if you think that, having Lexa at l minus 1 before finishing massclaim is dumb and you know it.

If you're wrong, we enter lylo with at least 1 unclaimed slot.

I honestly don't care if prana claims or not.

Also shame on you, you have been on this site longer than me so you should know by now rebellious doesn't = scum.

You're Devil's buddy aren't you?

You unvote when I move momentum away from Lexa and try to speed rush her lynch when I try to get a Devil claim?

And the THIRD change, with Lexa and shannon out entirely, replaced with me and Garmr.

Don't go bullshitting about VCA, the evidence is cut and dry that you're lying, and since being caught out are just trying to make out I was "always" on it, and hope people believe you.

You'd earn good money working for The Daily Express or The Daily Mail though, they aren't interested in facts either.

-------

And Gin... For the love of all that is holy, I'm male... I know I'm a fat bastard and have mreasts (cheers Nerdcubed), but that's no reason to call me female.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

IT'S THE AVATAR AND IT'S CUTE AND CUDDLY.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

but I have acknowledged you as male and will try to stick to it.

[PranaDevil]

IT'S THE AVATAR AND IT'S CUTE AND CUDDLY.

Now that I'll give you.

[Titus]

VOTE: Devil

I have work. If this is town, we lost.

Game is solved for me.

I'll answer anything late tonight/tomorrow.

[mastina]

Forty-seventh Votecount

:

(Third Votecount D5)

PranaDevil - 1 (Titus)

Not Voting - 4 (shannon, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Lexa, PranaDevil)

With

5

alive, it takes

3

to lynch.

Day 5's deadline is Thursday, March 9th, @ 3:00 PM PST--(expired on 2017-03-09 19:02:05).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  

[PranaDevil]

Just a heads up, I'm ill as all fuck, so don't expect much from me for the near future. Should just be a day or so, but rather warn you guys than vanish without a word.

[shannon]

If we lynch you, then tomorrow we go to night with 4 alive.

If you kill me, scum get confirmed in Gin/Lexa with Shannon having hammer. Not great odds.
If you kill Shannon, then I track Lexa. The situation becomes me/Lexa v Gin, and I just beat you in a 1 v 1 while calling the scumteam. Not good odds.
If you kill Gin, then I track Lexa. Situation is the same, as the second, but different hammerer.

Why aren't the odds of me choosing between Gin and Lexa good? Just FYI, whoever is doing whatever, I will 100% hammer Lexa if we're in 3P together with Gin.

Are you tracking Lexa no matter what?

I know you're good at VCA, but given I don't know your alignment, I can't trust it.

+1

[PranaDevil]

If we lynch you, then tomorrow we go to night with 4 alive.

If you kill me, scum get confirmed in Gin/Lexa with Shannon having hammer. Not great odds.
If you kill Shannon, then I track Lexa. The situation becomes me/Lexa v Gin, and I just beat you in a 1 v 1 while calling the scumteam. Not good odds.
If you kill Gin, then I track Lexa. Situation is the same, as the second, but different hammerer.

Why aren't the odds of me choosing between Gin and Lexa good? Just FYI, whoever is doing whatever, I will 100% hammer Lexa if we're in 3P together with Gin.

Are you tracking Lexa no matter what?

I know you're good at VCA, but given I don't know your alignment, I can't trust it.

+1

Regarding hammering Lexa, Surely if there's a 3P situation, and Gin is involved, anyone who votes for Gin is an imbecile. (Also, the remaining scum wouldn't leave confirmed town alive, so if we hit scum today we already know Gin isn't surviving to the next day. Regardless of who the scums are, Titus created enough uncertainty in the previous day phase that nobody really trusts each other, because, as I say everyone was listed as being scum at some point or other.

Thus, a Lexa/shannon/Gin situation would not happen. What is more likely is a Prana/Lexa/shannon situation as we lynch obv scum Titus today, and scum will leave me alive due to hoping they can get me to lynch the other one out of the two. However regardless I'm 100% certain I'll hit scum, as I did last time I was in a 3 way LyLo.

If Gin tries reading back some of my stuff he "should" get what I'm on about.

Also shannon, are you suddenly saying you believe Titus' stuff now? Despite her very obvious attempt to buddy you at day start? Please don't do what TB and Gin did for an age yesterday and listen to someone who suddenly believes you're town.

Unless you're scum of course, in which case go right on, because it'll make tomorrow much easier for everyone involved one Titus flips scum.

Also, considering the fact I feel like my guts are falling out of me, I'll vote now, but I don't expect a double scum hammer as Titus is one of them (which is exactly why I wasn't scared of a double scum hammer in my direction, hard to do so when one is already on the wagon).

Vote: Titus

[shannon]

No, god no, I don't believe Titus one iota!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

VOTE: Titus

[Titus]

Gin, unvote or we lose. I will know exactly why we lost too. Garmr getting himself modkilled and your pride.

All Lexa has to do is hammer me.

[Titus]

You and Shannon should agree on hammer, but you're plainly indicating you have little regard for their thoughts.

I can't do more than tell you the answer.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Gin, unvote or we lose. I will know exactly why we lost too. Garmr getting himself modkilled and your pride.

All Lexa has to do is hammer me.

Stop talking about pride. It's appeal to emotions

Right now Prana is explaining everything quite clearly on how you are mostly scum and you argue that I need to let go of my pride.

Your case is a vote count that has selected multiple people that isn't you as scum.

It's not my pride, Titus. It's just lack of solid evidence

[Titus]

No. It is 100% your pride.

You have fucked up many different dayphases until I got here and pointed out Devil scum. Devil is portraying my doubt as to his partner as to doubt on the gamestate. His posts are more about discrediting me and buddying town. How much effort has he put into hunting? Zero. He's just shading my VCA.

You know why he comes off cleaerer? He's had two days to plan and buddy you, not to mention all the game days.

You also need to resolve why you failed before I got here. My slot was inactive but you failed every day after d1. He never pushed my slot until I caught him.

[Titus]

You failed for a reason and that reason is Devil bussing. I don't need his ISO to know it's a bus and he tried every town counter. You can look though.

You still lynched counters to a scum wagon which is pants on head dumb. Again, deep scum.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Besides VCA, you haven't done scum hunting...

Prana has...

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also for the record I don't care about the VCA since your slot was never in game. It can't be accurate when 1 vote is missing out of all of it.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'm also sorry, but I can't side with you until you go through Prana and her actions and tell me why it's scum

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

HIS HIS HIS HIS HIS FUCKING HIS

[Titus]

Ok, you're saying this in an empty vaccum.

I highlighted Lexa scumslipping in that they believed my action, and didn't immediately vote you. That's scumhunting. Prana has only attacked me ever since I showed up.

The biggest difference is that Prana has been here the whole time throwing your head full of bullshit.

We can go in circles or you can consider the possibility you might be wrong.

I voted Devil because if you refuse to consider the possibility you are wrong on Devil despite any rational player determining that I was scumhunting you and Devil wasn't, well we lose.

No player in their right mind just auto sheeps the cop claim without interaction. None, yet you tolerate that from Devil.

[Titus]

I'm also sorry, but I can't side with you until you go through Prana and her actions and tell me why it's scum

The only "action" Devil has done since I got here is whine about my VCA being wrong because it fingers him. If you see an action, I'm going to have to actually show you that it's not. Otherwise, this is circular.

Truth is, you're only pissed off I suspected you. Deep down, you know this too.

[PranaDevil]

No. It is 100% your pride.

You have fucked up many different dayphases until I got here and pointed out Devil scum. Devil is portraying my doubt as to his partner as to doubt on the gamestate. His posts are more about discrediting me and buddying town. How much effort has he put into hunting? Zero. He's just shading my VCA.

You know why he comes off cleaerer? He's had two days to plan and buddy you, not to mention all the game days.

You also need to resolve why you failed before I got here. My slot was inactive but you failed every day after d1. He never pushed my slot until I caught him.

You mean like when you came up with your SECOND scum team of Lexa/shannon... which was AFTER your VCA?

No Titus, that's not throwing doubt as to my partner. In fact, the only reason you began tunneling me is because I didn't want to play your little game regarding claiming, you latched onto that because it gave you something you believed was tangible. That's the only reason you pushed me since then, not your VCA as your Lexa/shannon pairing proves quite comfortably.

You discredited your VCA by not sticking with any one player from it, you never showed any conclusions from it, you've not used it in any form beyond making claims it works, and you're pissed that everyone bought into it early on, but have since realized it was simply a way to hide from actually trying to scum hunt.

Want to know why I "come off clearer"? I'm not scum.