Scummies 2007 Nominations Closed!

vollkan · Post Post #710 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:38 pm

Second: ABR for Best Flavour Text

Mini 486. ABR's flavouring was very good (and enjoyably violent at times).

vollkan · Post Post #767 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:27 am

Wow! Thanks for the nomination.

vollkan · Post Post #861 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:52 pm

shaft.ed wrote: I'll third what Oman said about Vollkan and Best Newbie writing a lot

Thanks for the nomination Jordan, Oman and shaft.ed

shaft.ed wrote: And I'll Nominate Atticus for Best roleclaim in Mini 492 (Finished on New Years Eve). Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.

Second Atticus for Best Roleclaim

in Mini 492. A great gambit that ended up tricking me.

vollkan · Post Post #865 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:19 pm

Adel wrote: Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?

Interesting question.

Obviously, if there was a cop then his claim would have been completely disastrous for the scum in that game.

In theory (at least based on the fact that cops are quite common), it was a "bad move" - but he got lucky and it directly resulted in the scum winning the game.

vollkan · Post Post #869 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:40 pm

Adel wrote:
vollkan wrote:
Adel wrote: Just to play devil's advocate, was that good play or a gamble with a very lucky result?
Interesting question.

Obviously, if there was a cop then his claim would have been completely disastrous for the scum in that game.

In theory (at least based on the fact that cops are quite common), it was a "bad move" - but he got lucky and it directly resulted in the scum winning the game.
so his scumbuddy (a mafia don) claimed cop on day one, and later that day Atticus was facing a lynch and claimed cop himself. That strikes me as a player attempting a desperate gambit that somehow managed to pay off against overwhelming odds -- did he somehow deduce on day 1 that there wasn't a real cop who could counter-claim? If not, I'm not sure his claim was a good claim, let alone a
Best Claim
.

And I agree with you completely here.

The root of the matter, as I see it, is whether "best" refers to

strategy

or

outcome

.

Does a claim which is strategically poor but which has an excellent outcome qualify for "Best Claim"?

As shaft.ed said in the initial nomination:

shaft.ed wrote: Not very imaginitive but incredibly ballsy and won him the game.

vollkan · Post Post #872 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:12 pm

Oman wrote: I'm with Adel on this, unfortunatly. I think best claim is some of the really good, strategic, imaginative ones. I've cop claimed several times (in newbies mostly) and won games on them. Wonderful result, definatly not worthy of a scummy though.

Okay then. I wasn't certain what the criteria for "best" was exactly - but the view seems to be that it has to be particularly good in the strategic sense. So...er...

Unsecond Atticus for Best Roleclaim