Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[BigYoshiFan]

Game: 3332 posts

Jaack: 34 posts.
PeregrineV: 29 posts.

This is concerning.

I like that you've brought that up.

[BigYoshiFan]

I dont, instead of pushing and questioning your slot hes going for lurkers which is lazy. The more the game progress the more the value of poe'ing lurkers is high, d1 its considered bad play

This game has progressed a lot for D1, no?

[BigYoshiFan]

do not let gerry decide between BYF and PV as scum please

HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, I'll try to do some more catching up later.
I can't do a top 3 lynches, but I can do a top 3 townreads list:
1. Fro99er
2. Transcend
3. gerryoat

Okay, now I'm eating. lol

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, I'll try to do some more catching up later.
I can't do a top 3 lynches, but I can do a top 3 townreads list:
1. Fro99er
2. Transcend
3. gerryoat

Okay, now I'm eating. lol

Can you explain the froggy read please

Kinda like my read on Alisae from way back when, but to a much larger extent.
I love the questions he's asking, the comments he makes, the information he brings out, his progressions on people, and he's skipped over opportunities where he could just be like: You know, he would be an easy target, let's push for his lynch!
He's responded to everything asked to him, and in ways that leave little room for ambiguity.
He's actively scumhunting. Uhmmmm, that's about everything? XD

[BigYoshiFan]

Ive had a hard gut scumread on froggy for the past 2-3 pages

Just 2-3 pages? And just a "gut" read? You're willing to go off that?

[BigYoshiFan]

Perhaps you could give me more than just a gut read on the last 2% of the thread.

[BigYoshiFan]

Honestly its enough for me for now, putting pressure on him will also help you get more reads

I'm sure he'll gladly give you a readslist, if not, refer to his ISO where you can.
On the flipside, I don't feel the same about Jaack. What's your read on him?

[BigYoshiFan]

idk why its so hard just to claim and then reread. you're gonna be lynched at this point

Or night-killed because I've made such a implication that I'm a strong role. *sighs*
I'm a PT cop. I can check someone to see if they have access to PT's.
That is why I claimed to have a reason to believe clumsy, masons in this game make sense with this role.

This claim is not something that partners would make up in their pt. It corresponds to his thoughts throughout the entire game. Get the FUCK off of Yoshi.

Get the FUCK over here and hug me.
I almost forgot about Cabd. I will look over them later. I will look over all of this later. *cough cough Friday or Saturday*

[BigYoshiFan]

Hey Trans!

I am starting to agree now.

You've implicitly said this so many times I'm starting to get paranoid.

[BigYoshiFan]

Ok I'm all caught up right now but by the time I finish this post there will probably be another ten pages. Sorry I'm not a spam poster like most of y'all seem to be because I like to take my time and actually write my posts and not just spam crap, but what can I do when there's a dozen new posts everytime I wanna say something.

Like I was going to re-iso alisae to point out the garbageness of his case on me (because it is garbage to what I remember) but that's 575 posts all by itself. And you know what - even as garbage as that case was, he's the only who even tried to argue why I'm scum or anything. Everyone else is just like "hoidytoidy guess we'll lynch Jaack cuz he only has like 30 posts and that's how much we do in an hour" or "Jaack didn't just assume that the guy we all thought was scum is suddenly a mason now". Like frogger even called alisae's case crap like 60,000 pages ago and now I'm suddenly lynchable? And Clumsy's all "look guys someone ISNT a spambot we should lynch it lololol". And we're all just ignoring the fact that drealmerz is like the walking definition of coasting scum.

I mean its not like I've played a great game or anything... I can't townread anything in this swamp of processed pork products of a game. D1 is normally not my strongsuit but come on guys. How can anyone read these 13

6

8 pages and feel actually confident in what they're reading.

So that's my rant. If any of you have something actually interesting you wanna ask me about, I'll hang around for a bit. But if just gonna be another 45 pages of wasted internet space don't expect me to wade through it for anything

PEDIT OH LOOK ITS MORE POSTS I BET THERES NOTHING WORTH MY TIME IN THEM

Also Kuror is cool for also seeming to put efforts into posts.

What do you think of my claim? Also, I'm interested in some more advancement from you. I'll have plenty more to ask you during the weekend.

[BigYoshiFan]

I know, it's weird I'm asking about MY claim. Just asking for everyone else, okay?

[BigYoshiFan]

Large Normal 201: Day 1, Page 139

That must be discouraging to potential replacements. XD

[BigYoshiFan]

lets break the record actually. i didnt know that was a thing. what's the record.

Largest days in a Large Game

1. SaGa Frontier Mafia
Day 1
5086 posts

2. Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia
Day 1
4198 posts

3. NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness
Day 1
3808 posts

4. X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
Day 1
3700 posts

5. Tales of You
Day 1
3425 posts

WAIT WE PASSED IT ALREADY GOOD WORK

We're actually gonna make it to #1.

[BigYoshiFan]

Have you explained your Transcend/gerry scumreads?

[BigYoshiFan]

And also why you think they are on different scumteams?

[BigYoshiFan]

I explained the transcend one, yep

gerry not sure, but it's recent and if you were here it should be followable (his "anxiousness" for securing a lynch but, not on certain players, definitely seems to me like he's trying to help a wagon roll more than lynch scum)

I'll have to get back to you regarding gerry.
Your transcend read looks like a meta-based read. Is that correct?

[BigYoshiFan]

I'd rather lynch Pine. I've got a slight TR on Jaack now. There IS a genuine tone I'm gathering from here and I don't necessarily disagree with what he's saying about drealmerz. Reviewing his old posts will give me a better read (note to self).

[BigYoshiFan]

Yoshi

Cabd opinion?

I really don't agree with anything Jaack is saying, and I'm feeling scum motivation.

However, contrary to popular belief, I'm not a guru at this game. But i feel this is a good place to vote.

Not much of an opinion, but I don't like his push on me because (and I hate saying what I WOULD do) but if I was going to fakeclaim, then I would have taken more time to fake it. I claimed V/LA until Saturday, I didn't need to come back. I also want some more advancement from them, but they haven't caught up, so that can wait.

[BigYoshiFan]

Yep, I figured you'd point that out.
I focused on his push on ironstove, and he really didn't have anything of substance against him. And, he only posted some reads after he was asked to (which I'm gonna say now, they DO look easily fabricated).
I still haven't fully caught up, but his posts after that interaction don't seem towny either.

[BigYoshiFan]

I sleep now. Tomorrow I will probably not post, Thursdays are busy.

[BigYoshiFan]

FUCK IT
YOU'RE A DOUBLEVOTER NOW
VOTE: Frogger

What the hell? Sheeping again?

[BigYoshiFan]

that you should have enough things to read me either leaning scum or leaning town at least yet I'm still null.

So I'm supposed to have a developed read on you when I can't even get through a wall of yours without falling asleep?

But miraculously other read of yours are way more developed with little to no content, that's my real issue.

That's because I get reads off snippets of interactions a lot better than walls of text

I could understand someone scumreading me or soft town reading me but other reads of yours are with no input from them which is what made me doubt about your progression and the convenience on certain reads.

What other reads do I have with no input? Please enlighten me.

That's a bad response, especially the first one. Okay, sorry. I was just reading the last page before I go to sleep.

[BigYoshiFan]

Literal shit all over my basement. Days of cleanup ahead. Sorry; Cabd out.

To my replacement and the rest of the town: There's zero chance that PT cop role is town. Why would a setup give town a role that hurts town PRs and doesn't even confirm scum? Doubly so if there's any neighbors in the game. Much better to give to a scum team; it alows them to hunt masons AND otherscum at the same time. Don't let them get away with such a scumclaim. Alisae; this means you. Stop waffling and see the light; that's not a town PR.

The way you say it, it almost seems too powerful to give to a scumteam. My role has limits. As you've defined, it can't confirm scum, it can hurt town PR's, and as gerry said, traitors could lead investigations astray. It's quite useful in proving claims false, however. I think limiting and having the role less reliable as town makes it more likely to be town. Does that make sense?

[BigYoshiFan]

Again, just reading the last page. I shall return later.

[BigYoshiFan]

Yoshi, town or scum, can we be " killed during the night" buddies in Dead Thread?

I hope not. But okay. XD

[BigYoshiFan]

The way you say it, it almost seems too powerful to give to a scumteam.

Scumclaim

Disagree? I think having masons backs this up.

[BigYoshiFan]

I got'chu.

Suicide Bomb: Clumsy

[BigYoshiFan]

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Okay, bye for real. XD

[BigYoshiFan]

Clumsy why arent you voting Pep?
Can we please kill this scum to move on.
I am fully aware that some ppl are trying to get 1st place and its getting annoying. Yeah i am talking about you gerry.

Also why do you jump to Fro99er he is one of the vig targets for tonight.

Btw: VT is the safest claim for scum because they will not be touched by the opposing scumteam.

He is? O.O
Gawd, I can't stop reading.

[BigYoshiFan]

Btw: VT is the safest claim for scum because they will not be touched by the opposing scumteam.

Also, some pretty solid reasoning.

[BigYoshiFan]

OKAY, BYE.
*shuts laptop*

[BigYoshiFan]

Literal shit all over my basement. Days of cleanup ahead. Sorry; Cabd out.

To my replacement and the rest of the town: There's zero chance that PT cop role is town. Why would a setup give town a role that hurts town PRs and doesn't even confirm scum? Doubly so if there's any neighbors in the game. Much better to give to a scum team; it alows them to hunt masons AND otherscum at the same time. Don't let them get away with such a scumclaim. Alisae; this means you. Stop waffling and see the light; that's not a town PR.

Ftr, scumreading this slot much harder. Looks like throwing shade before peacing out and not having to respond to it. Cabd has been here since 2013. They know what negative utility is, they should know this definitely can be a town role.

Also, to my list of roles that "Can hurt town PRs without catching scum", add Miller and Ascetic. All of these are Normal roles.

Disclaimer: not saying Cabd is lying about the replace out or anything, that basement thing sucks yo, I've been there, not fun. Hope fixing it goes well. But I think it's a scum post.

Didn't want to be the one to say this.

[BigYoshiFan]

if we're not, I will hammer

just tell me who it's on

is it jaack? I could totally hammer jaack

Scumclaim?
Scummy regardless?

[BigYoshiFan]

Was that the hammer?

[BigYoshiFan]

I'll see y'all in the dead thread.

[BigYoshiFan]

Jaack vig cabd slot.

That's the plan? OKay then.

[BigYoshiFan]

vig drealmerz for this page only

[BigYoshiFan]

Dreal does not have access to a PT, such little time. I'm sorry guys.

V/LA until Sunday

Noted!

[BigYoshiFan]

Dear lord, I think all of my top 3 townreads from Day 1 have been wagoned today before.

[BigYoshiFan]

Well, okay. For obvious reasons Jaack is my top TR. Reading through Transcend, gerry, and fro99er's ISO's to see if I'll keep a TR on them.

[BigYoshiFan]

Well, okay. For obvious reasons Jaack is my top TR. Reading through Transcend, gerry, and fro99er's ISO's to see if I'll keep a TR on them.

Well, actually. Take that back on Jaack. That was a bit too early to call that, I wasn't thinking properly. Still a TR, but I don't want to make him sound confirmed.

[BigYoshiFan]

Someone wanna give a TL:DR? You will receive my temporary love and support.

[BigYoshiFan]

Trans: Let's vote Zach!
Zach: Hey Trans, lets run up Elena!
Trans: Ok!

You mean... like a sheep?

[BigYoshiFan]

Definitely gonna want to refer to this sometime in the future.

Okey Trans.
Also

{Clumsy, Jaack, Mick, Me}
{Trans, JaeReed (SENPAI DON'T STAB ME NOW)}
{Kuror0, Elena}
{Drealmerz, Frogger}
{PV, Garry, Yoshi, Zach}

pedit: ok.

[BigYoshiFan]

Nevermind, people have gotten the point that those reads suck.

[BigYoshiFan]

ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW THE 2 PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLAYED WITH ME BEFORE AND KNOW ME BEST HERE RIGHT NOW ARE DEFENDING ME. ALSO THE OTHER PERSON WHO WAS MAFIA AND KNOWS ME TRIED TO BUDDY ME BY NEIGHBORIZING ME. YOU'D THINK THE REST OF YOU WOULD PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER AND NOT BE MORONS

I believe this font is called "Gerry is f***ing town"

[BigYoshiFan]

That whole interaction has me suspicious.

[BigYoshiFan]

Hahahahhah, no.
I am referring to you and fro99er.
Alisae, I think you are the last person who should be voting for this.

[BigYoshiFan]

I didn't even interact with Alisae there

Mehhh, could've used a better word there. :/

[BigYoshiFan]

Spontaneous and simultaneous vote for three posts. I find it even more suspicious it was you two in particular because I think you could be on the same team after reading gerry's ISO. I'm pretty sure you two have had a history of SR'ing Transcend this day, and waited for an opportunity like this to vote him. I don't see how those three posts could provoke a vote from you at this moment.

[BigYoshiFan]

Trans: Let's vote Zach!
Zach: Hey Trans, lets run up Elena!
Trans: Ok!

Posts this, waits for Fro99er, sheeps him after.

[BigYoshiFan]

Nope.
I never SR'd Trans.
Till that interaction.
Which was scummy as fuck.

I find that hard to believe.

[BigYoshiFan]

Trans: Let's vote Zach!
Zach: Hey Trans, lets run up Elena!
Trans: Ok!

Posts this, waits for Fro99er, sheeps him after.

I didn't even see that post.

I was catching up from going out drinking last night and that post was AFTER the three posts I quoted.

When i catch up I make comments as i go through

That post wasn't made to incriminate you in particular, rather for Alisae. Because it was Alisae who sheeped you, I find you suspicious since I think you two are mafia together.

[BigYoshiFan]

Then why aren't you voting one of us?

Just checking who has the larger wagon.
VOTE: Alisae

[BigYoshiFan]

Also, waiting for something like that so you can't incriminate me of voting someone despite only having read one ISO.

[BigYoshiFan]

Gerry is town. No doubt. In words similar to his, you can vig me if he isn't.

[BigYoshiFan]

Gerry is town. No doubt. In words similar to his, you can vig me if he isn't.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE VIGGED AS A PT COP

And what do you gather from this?

[BigYoshiFan]

That you're dumb

Great! So you can disregard everything that I say and we'll be on our merry way!

[BigYoshiFan]

For f***'s sake it was for emphasis on how much I TR him. You two are definitely scum.

[BigYoshiFan]

Oh wait, this

NOT

is a town response.

edit

Okay, explain why.

[BigYoshiFan]

That you're dumb

Great! So you can disregard everything that I say and we'll be on our merry way!

I disregard your scum read on me

Ergo

You read me as town

What.

[BigYoshiFan]

Still no response to how three posts caught your attention to finally start voting him?
P-edit: That doesn't change MY read.

[BigYoshiFan]

@Yoshi who are you asking that to?

You.

[BigYoshiFan]

I thought you were disregarding it.

[BigYoshiFan]

I thought I gave you a response?
Trans is scummy to sheep Zach.
It shows that Trans doesn't really care about his SR on Zach if he's willing to sheep him.

That is too WIFOM for me to handle.
I'll just let Transcend answer.

[BigYoshiFan]

WHY WOULD YOU LET YOUR SCUMREAD INSTANTLY CONVINCE YOU TO VOTE WITH THEM

Seems to erratic to be scummy IMO. I think this kind of play is even less telling since it's from Transcend.
I think you know that too.

[BigYoshiFan]

His play from throughout this game is full of erratic posts.

[BigYoshiFan]

If someone who isn't Alisae or fro99er can help me regain my sanity, that would be great.

[BigYoshiFan]

Gerry, yes, my best friend! VOTE ALISAE WITH ME.

[BigYoshiFan]

White Scumteam: Drealmerz, Yoshi, Trans.
Black scumteam: Cloudie, PV, Zach/Kuror0/Frogger.

Frogger makes the most sense for being part of the black scumteam.

Someone please check this for consistency, especially on me and fro99er. I'll look too.

[BigYoshiFan]

Also -- Yoshi do you really think a Alisae and I scum theaters earlier this game when I nearly wanted to replace our and re-siteflake?

I'm not sure I'm interested in reading that, but now I'm thinking you two are on separate scumteams after skimming Alisae's ISO.

[BigYoshiFan]

oshit

I don't know which wagon to get on

VOTE: transcend

I swear, this has to be a traitor.

[BigYoshiFan]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

[BigYoshiFan]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

Also this guy is scum for the PT check on drealmerz.

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role. I don't care which but he's scum and I'll direct you to drealmerz first post in the game to prove why he would have checked him if it's a real role as scum.

Please do.

[BigYoshiFan]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role.

How'd you come to that conclusion? XD

[BigYoshiFan]

Alisae was actually a highest wagon contender from nearly post 400 to 1k pretty much.

No, I'm obviously not telling you that encompasses the entirety of both scum teams. That's not what I said. I said

both scum teams were happy to have Alisae there

. It means neither scum team saw fit to save her. They couldn't have cared less about her. That makes her town.

Other wagons came and went, Alisae stayed. Because scum didn't give a fuck about Alisae. Both scumteams were likely reading Ali as lynchbait town and still hunting for each other while being happy to leave Ali as their compromise lynch for later.

It's more beneficial to scum right now to get rid of town, actually. We still have majority. Once town majority is gone a quicklynch on any remaining town PRs can happen.

I honestly don't see how you've came to any of these conclusions regarding Alisae.

[BigYoshiFan]

VOTE: alisae

not RVS

So I supposedly checked drealmerz because of this vote for someone else who claimed mason in the second post of the game because I am scum hunting for masons...

[BigYoshiFan]

I didn't like him, and I thought it would be more valuable information. Didn't really think of the risk, even though I knew it was there.

[BigYoshiFan]

Conspiracy: Yoshi didn't check drealmerz.

Can we lynch this now?

[BigYoshiFan]

Did anyone question my choice when I revealed it?

[BigYoshiFan]

Hey guyz.
I've been doubting Yoshi's claim and he's on my wagon.
I wonder why that is.
OH WAIT!
He's scum.

pedit: They don't question it when it happened so what. We're questioning it now and that's what matters.

If no one decided to question my choice (even after Jaack mentioned doubts about it) until now, then it looks like a convenient excuse to try and throw shade.

[BigYoshiFan]

I have no answer to checking someone in the vig pool besides the fact that I scumread them. Final.

[BigYoshiFan]

Good to see people have realized that yoshi's claim is bad and that his response to this is equally bad. Let's lynch yoshi and then I can shoot drealmerz like I so very much want to.

Even if yoshi scumread drealmerz it makes no sense to check him. The fact that yoshi is trying to avoid significant discussion of this at all costs is telling.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BigYoshiFan

How am I avoiding discussion about that?

[BigYoshiFan]

i think clumsy should decide vig shots.

BYF who were you all considering checking

It was really just him tbh. I read his ISO and he wasn't contributing to the town in any way, which also means that lesser associations can be made. I was quite lazy with catching up. I got a towny vibe from kuror0 at some point, and it stands as of now.

[BigYoshiFan]

How am I avoiding discussion about that?

1. You 100% ignored my initial question about the dreal choice in your ketchup.
2. You shaded the fact that people were questioning you about it.
3. 5276 is clearly trying to shut down discussion about it.

That is my final answer, and now, I've expanded on the question of how it's shady. Do I need more to my answer? I haven't read everything either, and I probably won't. I have strong scumreads right now.

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm not checking gerry either. I'd replace gerry with fro99er.

[BigYoshiFan]

Come on Trans, you can't resist a larger wagon.

[BigYoshiFan]

Let's get the vig pool and check pool in order.
Here's the check pool I'm proposing: [Fro99er, Alisae, JaeReed]
Objections?

[BigYoshiFan]

Jaack, who do you have on your vig pool?

[BigYoshiFan]

Elena can go into the check pool, is 4 too many?

[BigYoshiFan]

We should make our own votecount for the checks and vig.
Let's do that, everyone "vote" someone to have vigged and checked, then the top 3 or whatever will become the pools.
I vote to vig Alisae and check fro99er.

[BigYoshiFan]

The difference between me and you is that you're SRing me but not voting me.
I'm voting you.

You vote Zach but then you vote with him so casually that I have a problem with it. Sure he could be scum hunting other scum but it just looks bad.

Yeah, this is bad.

[BigYoshiFan]

Vig pool:
Fro99er (1) - Alisae
Alisae - 1 - BigYoshiFan

Check pool:
Frogger - BigYoshiFan
Alisae - Alisae

I can do this, right mod?

[BigYoshiFan]

Woops, I screwed that up. XD

P-edit: Okay, so what are your final votes?

[BigYoshiFan]

No Yoshi I don't specificly want Frogger vigged. I rather just not be vigged.

If anything I want PV vigged.

Oh, okay. But you want to be checked by me, right?
Can I put you down as voting PV for getting the pew pew?

[BigYoshiFan]

Vig pool:
PeregrineV (1) - Alisae
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
Zachstralkita (1) - Fro99er

Check pool:
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er
Alisae (1) - Alisae

JaeReed and Transcend, wanna add to this?

[BigYoshiFan]

I could care less since I'm probably getting lynched

If i get lynched idc about my wincon anymore so I'd ask for someone fun to talk to in the dead pt to be vigged.

Well, you can still place a vote, and if you're apparently getting lynched, it will probably be valued even more.
Come on Transcend.

[BigYoshiFan]

Current Vig and Check votes:

Vig pool:
Zachstralkita (2) - Fro99er, Transcend
PeregrineV (1) - Alisae
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
BigYoshiFan (1) - JaeReed

Check pool:
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er
Alisae (2) - Alisae, Transcend

[BigYoshiFan]

Trans if you flip town I'll carry out your wish and lynch Elena

I'll hold you to that.
Or you'll NK her so you don't have to.
Whichever.

[BigYoshiFan]

I'd be OK with lynching Elena, but I would much rather lynch Alisae

^^^^

[BigYoshiFan]

Current Vig and Check votes:

Vig pool:
Zachstralkita (2) - Fro99er, Transcend
PeregrineV (1) - Alisae
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
Transcend (1) - JaeReed

Check pool:
Alisae (3) - Alisae, Transcend, JaeReed
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er

[BigYoshiFan]

honestly idk what votes are but we shouldnt vote until we have a vig list at least set in stone. also a check list

That's what these "votes" are for. XD
Care to contribute?

[BigYoshiFan]

like talkin to a brick wall. I was talking to Elena directly before about pep and I told her it was a mislynch before. Which is why i told her directly that "well I told you so" if you need the exact quotes to both i can show you

You see, I might have been able to buy what ever excuse you're going to give me this time if we hadn't gone down this huge rabbit hole on whether you tried to prevent pep's death or not. If whatever explanation you're going to try and distract me with was real, you would have lead with that.

----

As far as this list stuff goes, I don't like how yoshi is trying to avoid making the final decision with his check right on the heels of being grilled for his sub-par (scummy) choice. It's a good way of looking busy and useful while avoiding doing anything actually relevant.

As for my vig shot I don't want to waste it and would very much prefer to shoot either yoshi or gerry (or if we do the right thing and lynch yoshi, then drealmerz). I'm willing to take suggestions for a player or two to be added to the vig pool (of which I will again choose at random) from the masonry.

I'm not avoiding making a final decision, I'm letting everyone else decide and making a fucking VC of my own for it. This is for your vig pool too.

[BigYoshiFan]

Which, by the way, still needs votes from you and gerry. Got any?

[BigYoshiFan]

ok my thoughts.

Yoshi is town. If he isn't he will fall eventually, so the option to lynch or vig him is as bad as it gets. Due to the amount of VT's we see it suits to have an investigative role, and due to the scum neighborizer death we know it would suit this game with the flips we already have and we will confirm it further with other flips so please leave yoshi alone for now and focus somewhere else time will show he is indeed town.

the fact that Alisae wagon is made of the confirmed or closest to be confirmed town does say something. The fact that has been there but the pressure deflected easily on D1 or other wagons grew way easier and faster is telling aswell. And we know those wagon who outgrowth Alisae's one were on town players.

I know about a couple of players who had alisae on SR but when the wagon gets rolling they suddenly change stance or vote somewhere else.

About the vg shot I think the best option is to take down a player who we doubt but has too little interactions making it hard to prove his innocence. PV is a fine choice for me. Elena is also a nice choice because honestly I can't remember who she replace or any meaningful interactions so I got her on null. About investigation I would suggest zach mby even jae. (replacements are my weak spot :<)

Can you narrow each vig/investigation vote to one, or shall I put each as a half-vote?

[BigYoshiFan]

Fair... Fair... I just wanna have a complete list in case twilight is short.

[BigYoshiFan]

Current Vig and Check votes:

Vig pool:
Zachstralkita (2) - Fro99er, Transcend
PeregrineV (2) - Alisae, kuror0
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
Transcend (1) - JaeReed

Check pool:
Alisae (3) - Alisae, Transcend, JaeReed
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er
Zachstralkita (1) - kuror0

[BigYoshiFan]

If we don't lynch him, vig alisae

Kind of a given with these votes, so do you want me to put that?
Do you have a preferred investigation target? Drealmerz, you too.

[BigYoshiFan]

no, wisdom of the slot (always the same for the vig shot too, I don't want to direct it, I am just giving my suggestion, vigs should always choose their choice)

I mean, of course. You're not gonna force them to pick, just giving a suggestion. That's the purpose with these votes.

[BigYoshiFan]

What about for my investigation, same thing?

[BigYoshiFan]

Sure! If you want, everyone can bold it and I'll keep track of it in a spoilerbox in the votecounts.

Oooooooh, yes please!

Here is the most recent votecount for that, thank you!

Spoiler:

Current Vig and Check votes:

Vig pool:
Zachstralkita (2) - Fro99er, Transcend
PeregrineV (2) - Alisae, kuror0
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
Transcend (1) - JaeReed

Check pool:
Alisae (3) - Alisae, Transcend, JaeReed
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er
Zachstralkita (1) - kuror0

Alright guys, now we can vote in bold for these!

[BigYoshiFan]

Look at that scum wagon on Alisae holy shit lol

yeah dude the confirmed mason leading the scum wagon. with another claimed PR and 2 obvs towns and myself.

Pretty sure the composition of those wagons proves each of their alignments.
Can we make townblock?

[BigYoshiFan]

I honestly think from here, today is gonna be a slow day, now it's just a matter of everyone else to choose. MICK, GET OFF TRANSCEND.

[BigYoshiFan]

ohhh can't we just lynch them BOTH?!

kuror0, Clumsy = town

they are both good lynches and both good wagons

the rest of the people who aren't voting or voting elsewhere should vote for 1 of the 2 of them if they are comfortable with those lynches and we can then see where we're at, as, I am very comfortable voting either

Vote Alisae and get him to L-2 then.

[BigYoshiFan]

We lynch Alisae at his 1000th post. XD

[BigYoshiFan]

Man, a dayvig would be nice about now.

[BigYoshiFan]

Let me guess.
The name starts with an A
and ends with lisae

*vigorously nods in approval*

[BigYoshiFan]

Whatever floats your boat.

[BigYoshiFan]

AGH. Transcend, get back on Alisae.

[BigYoshiFan]

He needs to make 39 more posts

Then i shall

Come on Alisae let's GOOOOOO

Come on, this is just for shits and giggles. I personally appreciate some posts like this that leaven the mood (when it's appropriate, of course).

[BigYoshiFan]

I don't like these attempts at incriminating Transcend.
I'm almost confident enough to say that I'll be vigged if he's scum too.

[BigYoshiFan]

At a glance, is a 12v3v3 balanced?

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm almost confident enough to say that I'll be vigged if he's scum too.

This shit doesn't come from townies.

Neither do self-votes. *wink*

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm almost confident enough to say that I'll be vigged if he's scum too.

This shit doesn't come from townies.

Neither do self-votes. *wink*

Well they come from bad townies.

You're certainly doing better here if you are town.

[BigYoshiFan]

Scum: Alisae, Elena, fro99er, drealmerz7, JaeReed
Too lazy to formulate them into teams. What I don't like, however, is how obvious they've made their collective mislynch target and that has me suspicious.

[BigYoshiFan]

Traitor. He's gotta be a traitor. There is no way he is town.

[BigYoshiFan]

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
These attempts at incriminating you give me scummy vibes left and right.

[BigYoshiFan]

I think it's cute that you think scum are all coming headstrong on me, but i don't believe it is so.

I think it's more likely in a multiball game.

[BigYoshiFan]

I didn't "clear" him. He could be a traitor.

[BigYoshiFan]

Yes, yes I am.

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, then vote me.

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, then vote me.

I'm voting Transcend.

THEN SHUT UP AND LET ME HAVE MY OWN OPINION.

[BigYoshiFan]

Yoshi I'd venture to say drealmerz is probably town here.

Well, regardless he's low on my priority list.

[BigYoshiFan]

And I'm out, goodnight.

[BigYoshiFan]

In this case Yoshi's claim that he checked drealmerz doesn't line up with the fact drealmerz was in the vig pool and

was even Jaack's most prefered shot

.

Let's throw this detail in now where it's most convenient.

[BigYoshiFan]

In this case Yoshi's claim that he checked drealmerz doesn't line up with the fact drealmerz was in the vig pool and was even Jaack's most prefered shot.

Didn't even think about that.

Not only in the lynch pool, but also Jaack's most preferred shot

Let's sheep this idea where it's most convenient.

[BigYoshiFan]

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

So did you just say this for pity?

[BigYoshiFan]

"Are you sure I'm scum"

I'm never sure anyone is scum unless there is a guilty.

This sounds like

Transcend wanting me to move off him onto Yoshi (or someone).

[BigYoshiFan]

I'd love to alt with you sometime Transcend.

[BigYoshiFan]

My forehead looks like it's sunburnt.

[BigYoshiFan]

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

So did you just say this for pity?

Why would I need pity?

This makes no sense.

My pity.

[BigYoshiFan]

Yoshi was my lowest priority but at this point he's quickly moving up.

Because this IMO does not compute with this

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

[BigYoshiFan]

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

This reads to me like the opposite of this, as in your scumread on me is declining because I might be a moron.

Yoshi was my lowest priority but at this point he's quickly moving up.

And you posted the first one after I accused drealmerz of being a traitor.

[BigYoshiFan]

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

This reads to me like the opposite of this, as in your scumread on me is declining because I might be a moron.

Yoshi was my lowest priority but at this point he's quickly moving up.

And you posted the first one after I accused drealmerz of being a traitor.

I can't decide if Yoshi is just really bad town or way too obvious scum.

I just said that you posted this AFTER I openly scumread drealmerz, which you have proven on 3 occasions.
Also, no response to the actual matter at hand in this?

[BigYoshiFan]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY PV!

[BigYoshiFan]

@Jaack besides yoshi what other scumreads you have right now?

Gerry is number two. After that there's nothing I'm super confident in (I honestly have no clue how to read drealmerz with yoshi clearing but still managing to scum read him. But any lynch there requires yoshi to die first)

I think both transcend and alisae are both town, but I feel more confidently in my read on transcend, so I'd probably prefer an alisae lynch, but I don't really want to lynch either.

So you're content with parking your vote on me while not actually making an effort to lynch me?

[BigYoshiFan]

You're incouraging spam so that people will forget about you.
I don't see how that's towny.

*barfs a little*

[BigYoshiFan]

Alisas is now L2 as well

AND TRANSCRIPT is NOT ON THAT VOTE

COME ON TRANSCRIPT! XD

[BigYoshiFan]

*cannot compute*

[BigYoshiFan]

Okey Trans.
Also

{Clumsy, Jaack, Mick, Me}
{Trans, JaeReed (SENPAI DON'T STAB ME NOW)}
{Kuror0, Elena}
{Drealmerz, Frogger}
{PV, Garry, Yoshi, Zach}

pedit: ok.

Dafuq was he a townread here then?

[BigYoshiFan]

That post ruins the credibility of your claim; it does matter.

[BigYoshiFan]

Your play at the beginning of this day does not match your claim.

I'm waiting for you to tell me why I should be on the Transcend wagon.
You asked me why aren't I on it.
So I'm asking you why I should be on it.

Do you need a reason if you have a cop guilty?

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm reading that as an attempt to discredit me by saying I have no content.
It's funny when you ask for me to make a case on you (which I will do btw) when I don't specificly recall you giving a case on me.
And that's funny coming from you saying I'm not devoted to chase you when you go from "I rather push my stronger scumread" (2720) to "
Tired of dealing with you so I will just wait till the rest of the town to pick it up eventually." (Direct quote btw. 2748) to "I'm going to put Yoshi at L-1" (3169)

Also claiming

2-Shot Conciserizer

Target: kuror0

Your posts have to be in 100 words or less including quotes or you'll get modkilled.

I saw this in his ISO then I stopped taking it seriously.

[BigYoshiFan]

My claim was already ruined when I claimed VT earlier.
I'm just trying to get Trans lynched and now I know how he feels when it comes to pushing Elena.

What's that supposed to mean?

[BigYoshiFan]

Can you bribe me?

[BigYoshiFan]

Willing to vote Elena Fisher today?

(If you're playing please answer with 'Yes' or 'No.')[/center]

Alisae ~ Yes/No
BigYoshiFan ~ Yes/No
Clumsy ~ Yes/No
ConManMick ~ Yes/No
drealmerz7 ~ Yes/No
Fro99er ~ No
gerryoat ~ Yes/No
Jaack ~ Yes/No
JaeReed ~ Yes/No
kuror0 ~ Yes/No
PeregrineV ~ Yes/No
Zachstralkita ~ Yes

Updated.

Yes. I'm leaning towards it ever so slightly. Hmmmmmm.

[BigYoshiFan]

VOTE: Elena Fisher
The prior resistance to this wagon is telling to me. I think now that this is likelier to flip scum.

[BigYoshiFan]

Frogger Jae is checking me anyways so vigging me is counterproductive.

Oh, so Jae is a cop of some sort?

How does that jive with a town Yoshi who is also an investigative?

Either Yoshi or Jae are scum then. Shouldn't we be lynching in there and guaranteeing one scum the next day?

Is this pinging anyone else?

[BigYoshiFan]

Fair. :/
But that assumption in itself, how about that?

[BigYoshiFan]

ok but when he flips town, then what? Who is your next push? lol

If he flips town, Elena is vigged and probably flips with cloudy. If that's the case, Yoshi is scum since Jae is town and can clear Alisae. No way we have a town Vig, 3 masons, a town PT Cop, and whatever JaeReed's PR is.

Like... no.
Will be back Friday.

[BigYoshiFan]

STOP IT, STOP IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!111

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, I'll try to do some more catching up later.
I can't do a top 3 lynches, but I can do a top 3 townreads list:
1. Fro99er
2. Transcend
3. gerryoat

Okay, now I'm eating. lol

Man.... I sucked. XD

[BigYoshiFan]

Thank you so much, scout!

[BigYoshiFan]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Large_Game

Woot!
Also, my mini qualifies to be the #5 largest mini, can I just change that on my own?

[BigYoshiFan]