ting =) wrote:About Eljcko:
If you read back - I actually thought he was the most suspicious at first. Then, I changed to coolbot. The switch was partly because I was afraid I was wrong about him and he might be a power role. Here's why:
eljcko wrote:
That was post nine. He seems to know a lot about the
townie PM
, but there is
no townie PM
posted by Shaka. Two possibitites strike me right away.
Way to get rid of the rest of my post. I metioned Matt_S may be vanilla, or he is fake claiming. But as it came about, the townie PM is not the same for everyone, so a uniform PM is not possible anymore.
A couple of things are obvious: He is not a townie, named or unnamed. [Sorry Qman, I have to. =(] You can read his previous posts, he mentions in a number of posts not knowing what the townie PM is, without making any distinction between named or unnamed townie.
I make posts about how some people I felt suspicous about knew about the PM. Have you ever thought that I know something about the townie PM?
This makes him either power role, or scum - which is why I was unwilling to continue my attack on him - I was unsure.
Again, jumping to conclusions.
I've made up my mind now though. Read back on his early game reactions on the name claim. I don't want to quote since you have to take it in context of all the other posts around it.
He was against the name claim. If you read back on how the other people with names reacted: They could all see that the plan could maybe work, like destructor. Sure, most of them had apprehensions on how it might not work, but the nameds could see how it might work.
I was against a name claim because it would screw our power roles over. Of course when I tell you this, you don't believe me. Read my first post, I say it will out the power roles. Most had some apprehensions, not all of us are named, so I am nervous that our power roles might get killed. Do you want the power roles killed? (<-- Rhetorical, don't answer.) The reason I am against the claim is because not all of us are named. I might as well claim here. I am a member of the fellowship alligned with the town. I have my vote and win when all threats are gone. I have a feeling this won't work because if someone with a name claims, then 3 vanillas claim, then a power role just got potentially spotted.
People like matt and ranger all thought it might out the power roles, something which, I maintain that only town without names could have thought of.
Crazy thought there. I was against a claim because I knew this.
Eljcko's behaviour doesn't fit either the named or unnamed town profiles. In fact, if you read post 26, he sits on the fence, something which massive called him on earlier. He says he AGREES with what
matt
says, BUT he calls a name claim PRO-town, which is something matt obviously did not think. Then, after saying that a name-claim would be pro-town, he says he WOULDN'T go for it because a name-claim would be bad early on in the game, and he says that khel was asking for specific names, something which khel never asked for in any way.
I can have my independent thoughts that a name-claim is pro-town.A group of scum with little knowledage of the setup want not to claim. It is not samrt at all. What if everyone had names, there were too many variables. I don't go for the name claim because like ranger, I don't think it will work because of previous stuff I already stated. I already commented on being overall cnservative, but against certian conservative views, like death penalty.
That ended up sparking a confession where he says he misunderstood khel, but when he says what he thought khel actually meant, he STILL misunderstands what khel was saying - showing that he never saw things from khel's, or any of the named's eyes at all. In fact, now that I've reread everything, coolbot actually ends up agreeing with eljcko's misunderstanding of khel's view, and he ends up sparking an argument with khel in post 70. You can read khel's reply to coolbot and eljcko's view in post 77.
Khel wants to know if there is any role outsid fellowship names, like an elf. I misread it.
In fact, in light of all that, I'm more convinced now that Eljcko and coolbot are scum. I am going to
vote:eljcko
