Mini 559 - Cult Mafia again - Game over
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ok so seriously, lets talk strat.
obviously there are 3 teams.
1 cultist.
2 mafia, one godfather and one goon.
im gonna take a stab and say a minimum of 3 power roles.
1 roleblocker (it was in the other game)
1 doctor (its used in the writeup)
1 cop (otherwise whats the point of a godfather)
and thus a maximum of 6 vanillagers.
this ratio could easily be 4 power roles and 5 vanillagers, with another role in there or 2 roleblockers/doctors.
if we use the 1-2-3-6 ratio,
if we lynch a townie day 1 (we will probly be forced to lynch the first townie to claim so they arent cultified), then we are left with:
1-2-3-5
if worst case scenario mafia kills a power role and cultist recruits a townie, on day 2 we have a situation of:
2-2-2-4.
if the same happens again, on day 3 we have a situation of:
3-2-1-2
village is left completely outweighed, and the cult can easily group together to kill off the mafia and town.
tbh this is kind of rambling, but the general points im trying to make is that
a) the cult is a common enemy of both mafia and town, so in a sense the mafia should be working with us at this stage.
b) it seems very important to get a good start to this game, which probably includes forming some kind of game plan, as otherwise it could end up all but over by day 2 or 3.i swear im not mafia-
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yeah, but which of the roles cop, doctor or roleblocker could possibly be left out?XReyoX wrote:Omg: curiouskarmadog has stated that there could be 2-4 town powerroles in the game-setup thread. So the max number of vanilla is 7.
i agree he said 2-4, but i think we can logically deduce from a balance perspective that it is more likely 3-4. just my thoughts.i swear im not mafia-
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true, i wasnt really trying to suggest that, rather just trying to get ppl talking. seems really bad in such a game to just push random ppl to lynch.dahen wrote:omg:
Your setup guess seems sensible.
You are also correct that the cult is the common enemy of town and mafia, but finding the cultist today is extemely hard, since he/she doesn't have a connection to anybody at the moment. Mafia, on the other hand, are connected, so there we at least have a chance to find anything.
i think this seems like a very good idea. no claims at all unless you are a cop WITH at least one living peeked person. anyone else want to weigh in on this?Regarding claims, I'm not sure about the lynch claimed townie-strategy.
If we decide that a claimed townie should be lynched (to make it possible for the recruit to fail) and a claimed power-role should be kept alive for the mafia to take out, then you are dead whatever role you have when you claim.
Of course, this means that any scum needs to claim power-role which is more beneficial to town than if they claim powerless (easier to counterclaim and verify). A claimed power-role who survives creates a WIFOM-situation of course, but that can always be taken care of.
Hmm... maybe you are correct. But the witch trial feel of claims in these cases made me think of an alternative strategy of no claims at all (confuses mafia and cult) followed by a mass claim at some strategic point in the game. Opinions?i swear im not mafia-
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it was in response to this post from elias. i felt that was pretty obvious tbh.
im not being defensive at all. im making a general point that before we start looking to accuse people we should discuss overall strategy.Elias_the_thief wrote:ugh. dont feel like commenting on all that stuff from OMG at present. I can back up his claim of not random voting though, ive played with him twice before.i swear im not mafia-
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guys its not defensive at all.
notice the word 'if'? im saying IF, hypothetically, IF, we were in a situation in which everyone wanted to lynch me, we should still discuss start first.
please read posts carefully before commenting. kinda sad that 3 ppl have now quoted that and missed that part.i swear im not mafia-
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it is too hard to explain what hypothetical means. but i will summarise by saying that i didnt 'throw it out there as a possibility'. i did not at any point in that post consider that to be a possible scenario.Norinel wrote:
I agree that it's a hypothetical. But the problem I had wasn't the meaning, it was the fact that you even threw it out there as a possibility at all.omg wrote:before we continue, could i please just get a quick confirmation from those that misread/misunderstood my post that you now understand it?
Although as far as the point goes, I'd say we can discuss suspicion and strategy at the same time.
Agreed. Picking out little things from strategy discussion can go a long way. Plus, we might even be able to come up with a useful strategy.XReyoX wrote:Blaze: The reason why ppl random vote at the beginning of the game is to encourage disscusion. No discussions are pointless. You could sometimes work out the real intension of the people who start or join them.
basically consider this, the following scale represents ppl that are 100% im evil:
0 -;-----------------------------1----------2----3-----* all
now, at the time i made that post i probably thought that the level of that scale was about ;. however, i was making a general point, and thus brought up the * situation to demonstrate that regardless of where the correct point on the scale was, this general point held. i brought up the * because as you can see on the scale, if the general point holds at that point, then it also holds at points 1, 2, 3 and ;. basically by proving that even at the most extreme point it is true, i have proved that it is true at all other points on the scale, and thus no other point on the scale will need to be discussed at any time. in fact this is how hypothetical situations are often used.
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consider a very simple analogy,
imagine if there was 7 people left, no power roles and 1 mafia, and we were all 100% sure (somehow, this part is irrelevant) that one of those 7 was the cultist, and yet people were still trying to lynch me.
at that point, i could hypothetically say that "even if i am the mafia, we should still lynch the cultist because he is more dangerous to the village". note that in no point am i even considering the fact that i am mafia because obviously i would know that i wasnt. however, i bring up that case because it is essentially something like a 'worst case scenario'. if we shouldnt lynch me in that spot when i am mafia then obviously we shouldnt ever lynch me in that spot.
this is similar to what i was saying, in that if we should discuss strat even in the worst case scenario where everyone is sure im a scum, then obviously we should discuss strat first in any spot.i swear im not mafia-
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this, is ridiculous. i have not been defensive in any way at all so far. i have also proved that others have misunderstood me. i dont see why a villager would ever make this post.XReyoX wrote:Blaze: The reason why ppl random vote at the beginning of the game is to encourage disscusion. No discussions are pointless. You could sometimes work out the real intension of the people who start or join them.
So, do you think OMG was overdefensive, or others were just misunderstanding him?
so, my first non-random vote:
Vote: XReyoXi swear im not mafia-
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if you are just skimming my posts then please at least read these two lines:
"at that point, i could hypothetically say that "even if i am the mafia, we should still lynch the cultist because he is more dangerous to the village". note that in no point am i even considering the fact that i am mafia because obviously i would know that i wasnt. however, i bring up that case because it is essentially something like a 'worst case scenario'. if we shouldnt lynch me in that spot when i am mafia then obviously we shouldnt ever lynch me in that spot.
this is similar to what i was saying, in that if we should discuss strat even in the worst case scenario where everyone is sure im a scum, then obviously we should discuss strat first in any spot."i swear im not mafia-
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at that point i had already informed reyo that she had misunderstood my post, either through my post not being clear enough or her misreading it.
from there she continued to push a point she knew was incorrect in order to push suspicion on me further. there is no question because she knew at that point the latter part of her question was irrefutably correct, unless she hasnt been bothering to pay attention to the thread at all.
thus the question was only aimed for pushing suspicion on me and was not genuine at all.i swear im not mafia-
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i said before this game even began that regardless of role i was going to be much more patient. which is why im accepting that the reason ppl misunderstood my post is most likely in part due to me not being clear enough in what i said, and why i am taking the time to actually explain what i meant so there can me no further misunderstandings.
but yeah generally:
thinking im evil because im posting a lot + being more patient than in other games - ok, your entitled to your opinion.
thinking im evil because ive been overdefensive/thought there was a possibility that everyone was sure i was scum - no. this is not valid and simply wrong. i havent made one defensive post so far and anyone that thinks this has just completely misunderstood my posts.i swear im not mafia-
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ok consider this, i post the following question:Elias_the_thief wrote:
she already knew your point...she was asking someone else to take a stand. it is totally irrelevant whether she knew how she would have answered, the question was still meant to force another to take a stand on an issue. Im not saying its necessarily town, but what about it is scummy?omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:at that point i had already informed reyo that she had misunderstood my post, either through my post not being clear enough or her misreading it.
from there she continued to push a point she knew was incorrect in order to push suspicion on me further. there is no question because she knew at that point the latter part of her question was irrefutably correct, unless she hasnt been bothering to pay attention to the thread at all.
thus the question was only aimed for pushing suspicion on me and was not genuine at all.
"elias, please comment on whether you think reyo is scum based on the fact that she claimed scum 2 pages ago?"
the thing is that she never did claim scum 2 pages ago. the question is loaded and based on a false premise. it only serves to encourage you to think she is scum, based on false information.i swear im not mafia-
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they had accused me of it sure. but i then clarified it for those people that misread my post. which means that noone could possibly think that at the point her post was made.Elias_the_thief wrote:
no, because its still not a similar situation, as the assertion "reyo is being overdefensive" has not been widely made. At the point at which Reyo asked, 2-3 people had accused you of it, therefore making it a major issue in the game and worthy of a query.omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:fine, here is a better example:
"elias, do you think reyo has been overdefensive so far or do you think she is just being misundersttod?"
would that be ok for me to post?i swear im not mafia-
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i have no problem with someone attacking me if it makes sense. if you were to say "omg has been suspicious in his bandwagon hopping today" and i actually had then there would be no refutation.Norinel wrote:Whether or not posting too much is scummy might be disputable, but posting every single time anyone posts anything that could be considered as an attack with a detailed refutation just turns the thread into "OMG vs. everyone". And while that tells us a lot about OMG, we do need to consider other people too, since there are three bad guys out there already.
To comment on the one non-omg name that's come up, I must say I don't see where the Reyo accusation's coming from at all. He may have said other stuff that'd be worth a vote, but the bit OMG quoted wasn't it to me.
otoh, if you say "omg is being really overdefensive" when i havent posted a single defensive comment, then obviously i need to clarify it so you understand.i swear im not mafia-
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okXReyoX wrote:OMG: I think people are questioning the reason why you used the possibility that people believe you are scum to proof your point in the first place.
I never considered it a possibility.
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Read post 49. I dont understand why this is so hard for you to understand.i swear im not mafia-
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i have not yet made a defensive post.Friend of Old wrote:What amuses me here is that OMG has in fact become overdefensive in my opinion. You have gone out of your way to prove the 'I'm 100% not mafia' post was not overdefensive, but in the process of proving your point, I think, you have gone far enough over the top to be called overdefensive.
It is one thing to post a refuting post, and then discuss what else is going on, but every point that comes up you seem to repeat the same thing, to the point of overdefensiveness. In the case of XreyoX's question, you don't need to push that fact that is wasn't overdefensive so much. Elias makes a vaild point in that it was prompting a lurker, but you constantly bang on about your innocence, like I've banged on about the same thing this post.
Also I would like to know why you felt the necessity to say that straight off the bat, nobody was accusing you. I simply can't wrap my head around why you felt you were so threatened. Yes I have read your lengthy discourse on why saying that wasn't defensive, but the timing is what I am questioning.
I'm beginning to feel that this constant noise may in fact be a deflection tactic, plus it really isn't helping with half of the thread being devoted to your protests of innocnece.
FoS: OMG
find one post of mine that is defensive at all. i have simply been clarifying my post because somehow people still dont understand it. i have no idea how to make it clearer at this point.i swear im not mafia-
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ok, reyo and anyone else that still doesnt understand what i said, replace what i said with:
"if everyone is 100% sure reyo is mafia/cultist, it STILL makes sense in such a role filled game for us to first discuss tactics. and logic is logic, regardless of anyones role."
it means exactly the same thing. i was talking about the game in general. please just sit back and think about this for five minutes it is really pretty simple. if still confused, reread post 49 and others.
to anyone that says i am being/have been defensive:
defensiveness = you accuse me of something i have done, i refute that and explain why.
clarifying = you dont understand what i have said, i try to explain it to you.
note the difference.i swear im not mafia-
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Reyo - You have done more to make me suspect you than anyone else in the game so far. i believe you understood my post earlier than you made out. i believe your question to blaze was also loaded and not genuine, and only aimed to generate further suspicion and confusion about me.
If i have a more solid reason to vote someone else i certainly will, and i would not be willing to hammer you *right now* if that was the situation.i swear im not mafia-
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Realistically with a godfather in the game the % chance of there not being a cop is almost negligible.Oman wrote:Also, we're not guarenteed either a cop or a doc.
The fact that doc was used in the initial post is the only reason I believe a doc is in the game, but yes i agree that we need to consider the possibility we have none.i swear im not mafia-
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it already got her to post. if other people start magically appearing to vote her also then it gives us something to work with as well. for example someone who never mentioned lala that suddenly finds a reason to put a 4th/5th vote on her is usually pretty dodgy. btw, thanks for making me explain this because now it really WILL be useless but please remember this in future.dahen wrote:Oman, thanks for your reply.
You haven't commented on my suggested strategy of forbidding claims (except cops with guilty(s)) until a certain point when we mass claim. Isn't that better than trying to mix the proper blend of WIFOM?
omg: How exactly do you feel that you put pressure on someone when you vote her at the same time as saying the vote isn't sound?
im just trying to get something happening in this game.
not a snowballs chance in hell reyo. =)XReyoX wrote:Oman: None of us (including scums) know whether there is a doc except the doc himself. So someone claiming a powerrole doesn't mean the scum would target him that night, no? I understand that claiming will not always work (in any reasonable setup). I just want to point out that fake claiming make the game easier. So i suggest people should either not claim at all or think not just twice but everything through before deciding to claim.
At least I think he realize I'm not scum XDdahen wrote: omg: How exactly do you feel that you put pressure on someone when you vote her at the same time as saying the vote isn't sound?
btw, all - just a heads up, i dont think there is much point in me claiming at all. anyone that has played with me before knows i think lynch all liars is complete crap and would make up whatever role i felt best suited me. for example, if i am a roleblocker i would probly claim townie, if i was townie i would claim doc, if i was scum i can just pick from the 2, if i was cultist then i probably claim townie again lol.i swear im not mafia-
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Do you even read my posts?XReyoX wrote:
Perhap thats the reason why people get pissed of at you when you're town. Also, by saying you've an inconsistence playstyle before making a fake claim doesn't make you less scummy in my view.Confusing a few scums together with a whole lot of townie isn't a wise choice I believe.omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:anyone that has played with me before knows i think lynch all liars is complete crap and would make up whatever role i felt best suited me. for example, if i am a roleblocker i would probly claim townie, if i was townie i would claim doc, if i was scum i can just pick from the 2, if i was cultist then i probably claim townie again lol.
At what point in that entire post did i say that i was 'less scummy' at all? I dont even reference the role i have in this game at all, and am talking about my overall metagame.
I am being very patient but when you continuously skim my posts and misrepresent or misunderstand every single thing i say it becomes increasingly frustrating and wastes space and time in this game.
Unvote, Vote Reyofor continuous anti-town behavior.i swear im not mafia-
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Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.XReyoX wrote:No you didn't. But if you are to claim at some point, you're probly going to fake claim, aren't you? I'm just trying to point out that once people have found that you've fake claim, saying "I've told you that I'm going to fake claim early in the game" won't make you less scummy than a scum fakeclaiming. I'm suggesting you not to do it.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
Im not saying it to appear less scummy. Im saying it to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of someone like me claiming day 1.
This honestly seems to be the only way anything goes through.i swear im not mafia-
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Ok. Ill simplify it one time for you guys. This will be the only clarifying post i make on this matter so please just bother to read it.
FACT 1: In this game, it makes theoretical sense to not claim your true role, in most roles fakeclaiming is of benefit.
FACT 2: I am a player who plays to win and has no qualms about lying.
this amazingly enough leads us to,
FACT 3: As I would lie in most roles, there is no point to me claiming day 1 as it couldnt be believed and wouldnt tell you anything about my role.
This has nothing to do with 'being less scummy' or anything else reyo is talking about. It is not really that hard to understand provided you have taken english past a high school level and spend 20 seconds reading a post before commenting on it.i swear im not mafia-
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ty for more eloquently making the point i was trying to explain blaze. you dont feel like being my omg -> reyo translator do you? if you could just summarise my posts after i post for those that arent reading them correctly?
for those that seem to have a problem understanding my posts, i think it must be that some of you are just skimming them because i post so much, that post by blaze is exactly what i was trying to say.
with the exception of those players who have a metagame of 'never lying' claiming becomes a levelling exercise and thus claiming is relatively pointless.i swear im not mafia-
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GSGold wrote:I'm keeping my vote on OMG for trying to paint Norinel as a bandwagoning scum when in fact it was a semi-random vote.Unvote, Vote: GSGold
This was written right after i called out the 2 others for jumping on my bandwagon.
1. This looks to me like: 'Hey, Im not moving off, Im not scum'.
2. It is craplogic when thought about, particularly as I mentioned that I was in particular suspicious of Friend of Old and just included Norinel as he had done the same thing.
3. Constant lurking, and joining my bandwagon at an opportunistic time in the first place.
This is the first vote Im actually pretty happy with.i swear im not mafia-
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This is also true.Elias_the_thief wrote:Hmm. I'll wait for OMG's response on that one. My feeling is he didnt realize that Norinel had been voting him before the wagon, as scum doesnt really gain anything from making such an easily refutable accusation. And therefore its a nulltell.
As for the other things going on...I really should reread. I'll get back to you guys on that.
I realised a bunch of guys had jumped on, and when I called them out and it became obvious there was scum on my wagon, I noticed two of them suddenly unvoted me. I didnt know the original reasoning behind Norinel's vote. I still feel it is marginally suspicious however to 'get out' at that time, though obviously nowhere near as much as for Friend of Old.
Note: I would not have noticed this as any role so Elias is correct that this is a nulltell.i swear im not mafia-
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omfg.Oman wrote:I'm still a fan of an OMG lynch. The guy is all over the place. That last bit about Noriel was obviously a horrid defence.
XReyoX - STOP TALKING ABOUT CLAIMING! It doesn't matter because a fake claim could be helpful, but a real claim is helpful for the WIFOM. WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT, BECAUSE THE MAFIA AND CULT WILL KNOW AND THEN ITS VOID! WE NEED TO MMMMIIIISSSLLLLLEEEEEAAAADDDDD THEM!
In short Claiming = STFU!
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Elias - This isnt an fos etc, but i agree that i do get a general vibe from your posts of manipulative scum. im not going to give a direct example because i cant think of one, but i do get a general feeling of scumminess from you and have since early on in this game.
For clarification, this isnt an fos or anything close to a vote, as even if my feeling was stronger i still feel that you are active and logical so far and thus probably good to have around if you are town; however i feel there is some general validity to what Xtoxm is saying, from a third and more objective party. Take that for what you will.i swear im not mafia-
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yes i hadPink Puppy wrote:omg: you haven't explained why you were voting GSGold, and now you are voting oman without any explanation.
u suck.
unvote; vote omg_im_innocent_wtf
It really troubles me that nobody can tell me why the wagon on GSGold happened. And I note that omg was the first to vote him.
yes i have
you are a retard
that is all.i swear im not mafia-
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Im voting for a scum.Friend of Old wrote:Right, this is getting irritating now, omg this is the second time you just come out and randomly pointed the finger, this time with a vote. You even have clearly stated that you refuse to give reasons, which is completely pointless. Earlier on you were snapping at people for differences of opinion, which are both inevitable and useful because the arguement could flush out a scum or protect a townie, and now you are refusing to contribute anything useful, which is as bad, if not worse than lurking.
Your style of play has become counter-productive to the town, and to be perfectly honest if you don't sort yourself out and start being helpful sharpish, I'll be glad to be rid of you no matter the outcome.Unvote, Vote: OMG
You are voting for a pro-town.
Therefore I am better for town than you. Just sayingi swear im not mafia-
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btw, seeing as how i always cop it any time i say anything that could even remotely be considered offensive can something be done about this retarded puppy clown? at least a warning for abusive play? i have received more for doing much much less.
if nothing else i have remained civil this whole game.i swear im not mafia-
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btw, whilst most of this post is just insane useless babble like 99% of his posts have been so far, there is one interesting point he has made.Friend of Old wrote:Right, this is getting irritating now, omg this is the second time you just come out and randomly pointed the finger, this time with a vote. You even have clearly stated that you refuse to give reasons, which is completely pointless. Earlier on you were snapping at people for differences of opinion, which are both inevitable and useful because the arguement could flush out a scum or protect a townie, and now you are refusing to contribute anything useful, which is as bad, if not worse than lurking.
Your style of play has become counter-productive to the town, and to be perfectly honest if you don't sort yourself out and start being helpful sharpish,I'll be glad to be rid of you no matter the outcome.Unvote, Vote: OMG
FoO is openly admitting that he is voting for me whilst knowing that im town.
this implies that a) he is in a position to have a good guess at my role, and b) he is obviously not of pro-town alliance.
therefore he is more likely a scum than a cultist i guess, as they know 2 roles rather than 1.
think about that when im dead tmr as it appears i will be.i swear im not mafia-
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dude what is your problem?Oman wrote:
Why do we let 12 year olds on MS?omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:
yes i hadPink Puppy wrote:omg: you haven't explained why you were voting GSGold, and now you are voting oman without any explanation.
u suck.
unvote; vote omg_im_innocent_wtf
It really troubles me that nobody can tell me why the wagon on GSGold happened. And I note that omg was the first to vote him.
yes i have
you are a retard
that is all.
i have been so patient this entire time. i have given reasons and explained everything, often repeatedly and very very clearly.
and yet i am still receiving personal attacks and claims that i am useless/anti-town. what more do you people want from me? just tell me.i swear im not mafia-
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i really really have no idea what i can do.
i have tried being patient. i have tried being ultra nice.
i realise that not everyone on this site is as intelligent as me and what i am used to, and some of you have other difficulties english as a second language etc. so i have really tried so hard to be a good guy. i have tried to find scum, analyse strategy and win this game. why am i still receiving personal attacks and claims of uselessness/anti-town behavior?i swear im not mafia-
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well if im not mistaken thats about the most anti-town post ive ever seen in my life. lol.
and no i wont 'stfu'. tell me how i am 'anti-town', or 'useless' or 'all over the place' in any way when i have been the most pro-town player in the game for the first 10+ pages and am still being wagonned. if you cant do that then you are either a) scum, or b) as retarded as puppy.i swear im not mafia-
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btw if you seriously find those questions offensive at all, then i can tell you that yes they were completely genuine because in your posts i see no intelligence whatsoever and i want to know if it is worth trying to engage in discussion with you.
also, calling me a 'useless 12 year old' is much much worse than me asking 'how old are you'. just saying.i swear im not mafia-
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i was attacked on a personal level twice before making that post, and i just asked a question. i never said he actually had a disability. i was simply checking because like i said so far oman has done nothing in this game but post pointless crap and make personal attacks on me. i just wanted to make sure i didnt start defending myself to a 12 year old or someone actually incapable of discussion.Xtoxm wrote:
That's out of order. Mental disabilities?! This is a game. Don't start insulting people on a personal level. If you'd said that to me i'd have most probably requested replacement.omg_im_innocent_wtf wrote:no answer?
oman - serious questions. how old are you? do you have any sort of mental disabilities? (this is not meant to offend at all, just so i know what i am dealing with here. simple 16/no would be all i need)
plus i was pretty drunk at that point so whatever.i swear im not mafia-
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anyway, omans reaction did appear kind of angry townish.... so im gonna jump on FoO. like i said, im not happy with the speed of the GS wagon and i certainly know that im not scum.
so far he has been completely useless to the town, and is trying to get me lynched whilst acknowledging that he knows im a pro-town player.
Unvote, Vote FoOi swear im not mafia-
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Also, BM, i stopped reading your post at:
If you are not even going to bother to try to understand something that has been clarified about 6 times already im not going to go back over it with you. Its not my job to hold the hands and walk people through this game if they cant be bothered to put in any effort at all.His next post reeks of paranoia. Im not sure where he drew the conclusion that Elias suspected him of being scum, but his reaction leaves me completely bemused.i swear im not mafia-
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