Mini 559 - Cult Mafia again - Game over

[Xtoxm]

I agree with pinkpuppy that discussing potential Mafia PRs doesn't really benefit the town much. However, I don't see talking about it is much of a scumtell at this point. The best would be to ask people to be more carefull no to drop clues about their roles.

so Xtoxm, you viged elias last night?

Yes.

And Oman, that's partly why I thought claiming early was a good idea, it means if mafia want to counter me if forces them to out themselves with too many alive for it to be beneficial.

[Pink Puppy]

Okay, if we look at this at face value (the vig will kill Xtom tonight if he is fakeclaiming) and say that Xtom is a powerrole, he is NOT CULT. This is big, we have one guarenteed non-cultist. Meaning that even though vig is a dicey role in this game (I know I was the vig last game).

I say we are at a very interesting decision here.

let 1 townpowerrole = doc:

Let Xtoxm = Vigilantee -> obviously protecting him from night kills is the best move as we have a confirmed townie with no cult-ableness.

Let Xtoxm = Scum -> obviously the vig will try to kill him, but the doc should protect him (see Xtoxm = vigilantee).

Thus, I think that contrary to standard vig play any vigilantee should counterclaim now, if not, we should accept that Xtoxm IS town.

Good thinking. Unless we don't have a doc. Is that possible/probable?

[Xtoxm]

Okay, if we look at this at face value (the vig will kill Xtom tonight if he is fakeclaiming) and say that Xtom is a powerrole, he is NOT CULT. This is big, we have one guarenteed non-cultist. Meaning that even though vig is a dicey role in this game (I know I was the vig last game).

I say we are at a very interesting decision here.

let 1 townpowerrole = doc:

Let Xtoxm = Vigilantee -> obviously protecting him from night kills is the best move as we have a confirmed townie with no cult-ableness.

Let Xtoxm = Scum -> obviously the vig will try to kill him, but the doc should protect him (see Xtoxm = vigilantee).

Thus, I think that contrary to standard vig play any vigilantee should counterclaim now, if not, we should accept that Xtoxm IS town.

Good thinking. Unless we don't have a doc. Is that possible/probable?

Don't speculate on town's power roles...Think that's a bad idea.

[Pink Puppy]

You started it!

[Xtoxm]

Do you want to die tonight?

[Oman]

Pinkpuppy, first line stated that the entire thing required a doc to exist, if one doesn't its void.

[Pink Puppy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Battle Mage]

Okay, if we look at this at face value (the vig will kill Xtom tonight if he is fakeclaiming) and say that Xtom is a powerrole, he is NOT CULT. This is big, we have one guarenteed non-cultist. Meaning that even though vig is a dicey role in this game (I know I was the vig last game).

I say we are at a very interesting decision here.

let 1 townpowerrole = doc:

Let Xtoxm = Vigilantee -> obviously protecting him from night kills is the best move as we have a confirmed townie with no cult-ableness.

Let Xtoxm = Scum -> obviously the vig will try to kill him, but the doc should protect him (see Xtoxm = vigilantee).

Thus, I think that contrary to standard vig play any vigilantee should counterclaim now, if not, we should accept that Xtoxm IS town.

This makes major sense.

Not Vig

BM

[XReyoX]

The thing is that scums don't know whether there is a doc either. The can try to NK xtoxm and see what'll happen.

[curiouskarmadog]

Dahen has been prodded, he has 72 hours to post.

[Norinel]

Well, I did say the mafia power role discussion would probably just out the town power... As I said before, vigs are probably most useful against cult since they let us kill them in the best case faster than they can recruit in the best case, which is a good thing.

I definitely agree with Oman that getting to a position where we can pretty much rule out Xtox as cult is a good thing, so I'm not a vig.

no, im just saying that i think you trying to paint it as anything other than an inexperience tell, is suspicious.

I'll sort of agree with that. As best as I can tell, PP's game right now is to throw as much suspicious stuff out there as possible and see what sticks, which is a pretty good move as town or scum. Don't think it's worth pursuing too heavily, though.

[Pink Puppy]

Okay so I guess we're going with this idea.

I am not the vig.

I thought I'd claim that now because I prob can't post until Sunday at the earliest and didn't want to hold anything up. (The bachelorette party weekend begins )

[XReyoX]

I don't have a shotgun either.

[Norinel]

As I posted in V/LA, I'll be gone until next Saturday; might be able to check in tomorrow, but I'm not guaranteeing it.

[Xtoxm]

Ok I am going to

vote dahen

I thought he was a new player from the way he played but BM says he's experienced, which makes me suspicious of him.

He has only 9 posts in the whole game. He recently started a promised analysis, did only the first few pages, said he would do more, and has dissappeared since.

[Friend of Old]

I don;t think Dahen's worthy of a vote yet, if he turns up we'll get him to explain but I think chances are he'll be replaced.

As for me, I broke my shotgun two years ago, I'm not a vig.

[Xtoxm]

Just waiting on GW and dahen if the wish to confess that they are scum.

[GhostWriter]

Okay, I'm going to chime in here with what I've gathered so far, after a rough read through of previous pages after our three confirmations. I won't be able to make any heavier posts until about Sunday. I may be able to drop a post here and there around midnight of Friday and Saturday, but that's it (got two back-to-back competitions and a college term paper to turn in next week as well). Right now, I've got to say that I'm getting some strong pro-town vibes from Pink Puppy. There's just something that I'm sensing. However, my gut also gives me bad signals from FoO, which doesn't make sense. He's been nailing his posts pretty damn well so far. But I just can't shake this feeling I have about him...

I've already spoken. The only thing to really add to that as of now, is that I believe your claim, and I am not the vig.

[Blazerunner]

Bah. Congratulations, Battle Mage. Happy Birthday!

[curiouskarmadog]

if dahan has not posted by noon tomorrow, I will begin looking for another replacement.

[Battle Mage]

Bah. Congratulations, Battle Mage. Happy Birthday!

Gee, i feel really bad about NKing you now.

(joke)

BM

[XReyoX]

So are we all agreeing that xtoxm is the vig?

[Oman]

I am not refuting Xtoxm's vig story.

Sooooo.

Who is next. Lets consider this:

1. Do we, as a town, want to "assign" Xtoxm a target?

I think NOT, all it does is let both groups know who we're targeting. Bad move.

[Xtoxm]

Feel free to make suggestions, but I will not be basing my kill upon any assigned target by general town consensus.

[dahen]

Have you missed me? I am here and continuing my read.

p4:
I question Blazerunner regarding his suggested strategy.
p5:
I vote Oman.
p6:
I ask why nobody has commented on my comments or vote.
XReyoX responds that he is waiting for Oman's reply.
Oman responds. He admits to trying to find a wagon.
lalaland said she hasn't posted much and thinks omg is an ok lynch, but she seems quite certain that he will turn up pro-town.
XReyoX comments on my questions to Oman and thinks Oman's vote is fair.
Elias throws a vote at lalaland for suggesting no-lynch, but that's not exactly what she did.
omg votes lalaland for pressure even though he thinks the original reason is lame.
Oman votes Elias for voting lalaland for being newbie.
Elias sighs at Oman for halting the wagon.
Now Oman switches his vote to OMG for something he did prior to the Elias vote. Hmm.

p7:
Omg votes Reyo for "continuous anti-town behavior". I don't agree at all with this.
FoO jumps on Omg for that Reyo vote.
GSGold writes a list of reasons to vote Omg.
GW says that we misunderstand Omg. I don't see any such misunderstandings. It's Omg's word.
Blazerunner makes a strange post about claiming as a coin-flip. I don't agree.

I will continue. Top suspects to here in no particular order:
Omg
lalaland
Elias
GW
Oman

And Blazerunner still hasn't answered my first question to him regarding his suggested strategy in the beginning.