Mini 559 - Cult Mafia again - Game over

[curiouskarmadog]

prodding FoO..he has 72 hours to post.

[Pink Puppy]

Actually, I haven't been ignoring prods. In a few games (so that it wasn't alignment based) I've been trying to try out lurking as people seem to think LAL is wrong. So I'm trying to get perspective. Unfortunatly, my findings aren't really ready, but I just don't feel right doing it any more.

Sorry.

unvote; vote Oman

[Oman]

no. I was talking about telling people to couterclaim if they are vig.

No no no! IF someone claims vig, and they aren't the vig, you let the real vig kill them. Always. Mafia are not likely to kill the vig (see cult mafia 1) as he is not a deadly threat to them, and often helps.

[Norinel]

Norinel:

Why are you pointing me out particularly? and what do you mean by "mafia's more likely than cult"?

That was in reference to PP- if she's anti-town, I think she's more likely to be mafia than cult, so we can wait on lynching her. (Whereas we can't really wait if we have a good suspect for the cult recruiter)

[XReyoX]

??????? I was referencing to this post.

Okay, if we look at this at face value (the vig will kill Xtom tonight if he is fakeclaiming) and say that Xtom is a powerrole, he is NOT CULT. This is big, we have one guarenteed non-cultist. Meaning that even though vig is a dicey role in this game (I know I was the vig last game).

I say we are at a very interesting decision here.

let 1 townpowerrole = doc:

Let Xtoxm = Vigilantee -> obviously protecting him from night kills is the best move as we have a confirmed townie with no cult-ableness.

Let Xtoxm = Scum -> obviously the vig will try to kill him, but the doc should protect him (see Xtoxm = vigilantee).

Thus, I think that contrary to standard vig play any vigilantee should counterclaim now, if not, we should accept that Xtoxm IS town.

[Pink Puppy]

Norinel:

Why are you pointing me out particularly? and what do you mean by "mafia's more likely than cult"?

That was in reference to PP- if she's anti-town, I think she's more likely to be mafia than cult, so we can wait on lynching her. (Whereas we can't really wait if we have a good suspect for the cult recruiter)

I don't know how you can discren who may be mafia from who may be cult. Seems pretty impossible to me.

[XReyoX]

Mafia just wanna lynch anyone but themselves whereas cult wanna lynch powerroles and mafia,l leaving vanilla alive. There is a difference, although almost impossible to see i agree.

[Oman]

I'm trying to WIFOM as much as possible XReyoX.


BTW: I am actually the doc, and I won't be protecting the vig tonight.

[curiouskarmadog]

dahen has 72 hours to post, or he will be replaced, this will be his last prod, next time I will just replace him.

[curiouskarmadog]

Official Vote Count

(Page 26)

Oman

–2 (Xtoxm, Pink Puppy)

dahen

–2 (Norinel, GhostWriter)

Not Voting:

dahen, Friend of Old, Battle Mage, Oman, XreyoX

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. 4 is a no lynch.

Deadline: (Apirl 1st 8am EST)

[Pink Puppy]

I wish I could vote Norinel at the same time as Oman.

[XReyoX]

Whats the point of the claim?

[dahen]

OK. Easter is over. I'm back and I've been reading. Today I've read pages 8-22 (woho!), so tomorrow I expect to be back on track with this game.

I'll summarize and try to make a good case tomorrow. But this is how I "feel" right now about the players. Do what you want with it:

2.) dahen: Me.

not vig

4.) Friend of Old: Slight scum
5.) GhostWriter: Slight town
6.) Battle Mage (replacing GSGold): Slight scum
7.) Pink Puppy (replacing lalaland): Town
8.) Xtoxm (replacing militant): Claimed vig. Town.
9.) Norinel: Scum
10.) Oman: Better than yesterday, but still doesn't do much. Slight town.
12.) XReyoX: I've been viewing him as town all game and I really can't let that feeling go away. Town.

[XReyoX]

Mod:

I've only had one chocolate easter egg this easter. May I have a deadline extension from you as a present please?

[Xtoxm]

Why do you think we need an extension, we have ages left.

[XReyoX]

Is 1 week ages?

[Pink Puppy]

I think a week is enough.

[Pink Puppy]

Whats the point of the claim?

He trying to WIFOM as much as possible and didn't he also say that claiming is broken in this game?

[XReyoX]

Thats why I don't see the reason. He has anounced that he would claim whatever. This is just so random and out of the blue that any scum/cult or whoever would know its pointless and its an unreliable claim. What I don't see is reason why he bothered to post that and not something more useful maybe?

[Friend of Old]

I've got the prod, and I think that I'm still right that we have no major scumhunting going on, everyone seems to have simply given up and slumped over. This of course is of no benefit because it doesn't really give us anything at all worthwhile. However, considering we're on the final week I'll:

Vote: GW

For reasons previously stated.

[XReyoX]

FoS: FoO

[GhostWriter]

So, despite the fact that previously, dahen had been at the top of your suspects list (yes, I know I was there too), you place your vote on me? Exactly what pushed me past him in your mind?

[Pink Puppy]

unvote; vote Friend of Old

Please bandwagon.

[Norinel]

You could think of that early post of Oman's:

Basically, everyone claim whatever the hell you want. The best idea for townies is to claim Doctor and draw the NK. Best idea for the Doctor is to claim tonwie and draw the cult recruit.

as breadcrumbing a doc claim, one way or another, but that doesn't rule out any possibility other than maybe cult recruit. He's certainly been unhelpful, with slight tendencies towards counterhelpful recently, so given the deadline that might make him today's lynch. My vote's not going there without something more, though.

I wish I could vote Norinel at the same time as Oman.

Up to now, I just wanted to make sure everyone else realized that being literate doesn't make you town. Now I'm starting to think there's a good chance you're scum- it almost seems like you feel threatened by me for some reason, and the most obvious reason is that I'm the only one who hasn't written you off as obviously pro-town.

Strong FOS: PP

, which would probably be a vote change otherwise, but I'm not going to further spread out votes with a deadline upcoming.

So, despite the fact that previously, dahen had been at the top of your suspects list (yes, I know I was there too), you place your vote on me? Exactly what pushed me past him in your mind?

FoO has already stated that the suspects list was in the same order as the front post, and didn't reflect who he thought was scummiest. That said, since he voted with the deadline in mind, I'm surprised he didn't vote for either of the vote leaders, who were also on that same list. That is holding back the town, and also not what we need at the moment.

[Pink Puppy]

I wish I could vote Norinel at the same time as Oman.

Up to now, I just wanted to make sure everyone else realized that being literate doesn't make you town. Now I'm starting to think there's a good chance you're scum- it almost seems like you feel threatened by me for some reason, and the most obvious reason is that I'm the only one who hasn't written you off as obviously pro-town.

Strong FOS: PP

, which would probably be a vote change otherwise, but I'm not going to further spread out votes with a deadline upcoming.

Norinel, I am not threatened by you suspecting me. I object to your playstyle, reasoning, and you not addressing my problems with you.

Did you ever respond to how you used your assumption that I am anti-town to prove that I am anti-town?