Realistic Mafia - Game Over

[Celebloki]

Hmmm, since I have no clues or evidence to base anything I used a dice program to roll a 1d25 and got 1 =p.

Vote: Primate

[Celebloki]

Your dice is broken.

We're lynching Superfly today.

Yeah... I was kinda weirded out when it gave me 1 on a 1d25...and I haven't see any real evidence that he really is very fly, certainly not super fly so...

Unvote, Vote: Superfly

[Celebloki]

I want to hear Superfly's reaction to this bandwagon before we discuss why it's there.

My second vote on Superfly, as early as it was, was

not

random.

srsly, has Superfly been lurking? or does he have any comments on the votes against him. Or has he just been a flake and not looked at the forum for awhile?

[Celebloki]

I am unsure as to what to think right now. I feel that maybe primate has some info that we don't, but I don't know if this crusade against Superfly is just him acting on grudge or something. At the moment my vote stays until I see Superfly defend himself.

[Celebloki]

I am unsure as to what to think right now. I feel that maybe primate has some info that we don't, but I don't know if this crusade against Superfly is just him acting on grudge or something. At the moment my vote stays until I see Superfly defend himself.

what does Superfly have to defend against? lol

BM

Well not much defend but say something for himself at least. If Primate startred to crusade merely out of personal grudges, and Primate won't give any reason for it then maybe Superfly can enlighten us there. Also if it takes him longer to say anything then hes just lurking or not being around and that means we just have someone not participating. I pretty much just want some kind of response out of him.

[Celebloki]

and hoping that a few votes on him puts some pressure to say something as well.

[Celebloki]

*flails arms*

[Celebloki]

I don't feel that Surye is being suspicious at all either. He won't jump on the wagon because he wants Superfly to appear and maybe say something and thats scummy? I don't think so. I don't feel that anymore votes should be thrust upon Superfly until he does show up. I feel the 5 on him currently are enough to spur him to at least say something and not lurk. Up until now I think he just forgot about the thread since it took a few days to get going. Lets see iof he shows up after the prod.

[Celebloki]

Well I was originally hoping Primate had some dirt on him other than his name. However, he is admittedly a lurker and has been away so My vote will stand purely on his non-participation.

[Celebloki]

If you check his posts across all games its evident he simply went AFK for a week. That is not lurking.

I was inactive because I'm a lurker. Before you ask, not by choice, but by bad habits. You all are not the only one who has to suffer my lazyness.

He said he was a lurker.

[Celebloki]

I'm sorry I interpreted his own post saying he is a lurker because of laziness to mean that he was afk for a week.

[Celebloki]

Well the crusade on Superfly was just for his name, and even though I don't like that he admits to being a lurker due to laziness we have bigger issues now it seems. On that note

Unvote

I don't wholly believe Surye claiming Mayor in the heat of the moment but I don't wholly disbelieve it either. And BM just makes me feel suspicious of him due to his recent posts and alleged arsenal.

FOS: Surye, BM

[Celebloki]

What about my recent posts is suspicious?

Sorry I misread some things back when I was skimming. I don't know what to feel about cyberbob. It is suspicious that he has weapons but so far in mu opinion he has stayed pretty neutral in his accusations until he started to attack Surye. also

FOS: Cyberbob

[Celebloki]

I'm agreeing that either CB is SK or Mafia, I cannot think of any other explanation for this investigation result.

I agree that Cyberbob is the most suspicious from the investigation. Though I don't believe he is a SK. I was under the impression we had 2 mafias in this town from the starting PM. Unless there was a 3rd killing that got blocked I more so assume that Cyberbob is scum. On that Note

Vote: Cyberbob

[Celebloki]

I was under the impression we had 2 mafias in this town from the starting PM.

Not the opening post but the n0 post rather.

[Celebloki]

Its possible that one of infinite things occurred preventing the kill.

That is very true, but for now my vote is because I believe he is mafia until further evidence suggests otherwise.

[Celebloki]

If BM is indeed a Vig and information comes out that ABR has a truckload of guns, why does BM-Vig immediately assume ABR is a Vig? I'd like a solid claim out of BM.

My read off that is if BM is the vig, when he saw that the investigation lead to ABR (Surye's Typo) and the people started to assume vig, BM found it as an opportunity to jump in and agree hoping that he would be safe from assumption of being the vig to detract from mafia attention. And I also believe thats why he won't solid claim it yet.

[Celebloki]

Nah I'm good, I have a wand that shoots Squares, Circles, and Triangles. The ultimate scum defense.

[Celebloki]

Dude, Unvote, HoS Celboki "BM has an aresenal and Surye is totally not mayor although he knows this"

I'm not really sure why your suspicious of me, Please elaborate.

I think if we're gonna go search through Cyberbob's house more than just BM should go for Back-up as well as so more than one person can see if there is any evidence. At least I'd like to come along and investigate with everyone.

[Celebloki]

ABR can do the strip searching, but I think we should go and investigate. I disagree that only DBG and BM go by themselves. The whole town shouldn't go and raid his house, but I won't believe anything unless I am present to see it for myself.

[Celebloki]

Can't the mayor write up a warrant or something with his ???? action....maybe its a small town and he can also play judge =p. Get a uniform to let us in.

[Celebloki]

well besides Surye who here is "confirmed" then?

[Celebloki]

by your reasoning only Surye should go and look around but I don't want something to happen to the mayor. Just because he got a gun from ABR doesn't mean he'll be fine by himself.

[Celebloki]

We can hold down CB so he can't go follow you =p

[Celebloki]

Well I think if anyone is going to Investigate Surye should at least be there as he is the most trustworthy here, however I just don't believe he should go alone and I don't trust anyone to go with him to "protect" him.

[Celebloki]

I suppose I'll go with that, If you get killed though *Shakes a fist at BM*

[Celebloki]

hmmm Now even if we go in after Nabakov we can't say he didn't tamper with anything inside CBs house either.

[Celebloki]

Lynching him also lets us pretty much for sure have time for another lynch.

Whats our basis for another lynch right now? Alignment of CB will not be released until the end of the day. Unless we plan to go with Dasquian's idea and also lynch BM but I'm not sure if I like that idea.

[Celebloki]

Alright, lets hope kscope gives us SOMETHING in this death scene...

Yes lets hope, maybe if not we can see if we can vote to end the day early to find out. Only problem with that is all the night power roles will get to go again >.<

[Celebloki]

I's just paranoid. STAY AWAY FROM MY HOUSE! =p

[Celebloki]

Yea, I'm sure he is, but you don't think he would seriously not want anyone coming to his house? Jokes are a great way to say things non-commitally.

Yeah the thing I was half saying non-commitingly is that we may have 2 mafias, a SK, vig, and now however many townies are armed and feel like they can go cause trouble because of ABR's gun craze, so maybe I am a little worried about all that come nightfall. I'm sorry I don't have a police force that can protect me like you do.

[Celebloki]

He did say we can vote no lynch in the opening post, maybe we can also post to end the day?

Mod: Is it possible to vote to end the day?

Just want to ask so we know at least.

[Celebloki]

Why would we want to end the day. I'm liking a 2nd lynch on Celebloki a lot about now.

I'm merely just curious. The fact that alignment is not revealed after each lynch really bothers me. Once we find that CB was lynched but not what he was that answers no questions for us. We won't know who the crooked cop is until after another night phase. I'm just worried that after CB dies who next? 5 townies then we find out we killed a ton of power roles that we wouldn't have if we had known what CB was. I just don't want a bad chain of events to happen. IMHO scum want multiple lynches before nightfall.

[Celebloki]

How does insisting going on an investigation seem scummy? Wanting to see something for my own eyes instead of listening to heresy from someone telling me what they saw. We have no idea of the credibility except maybe Surye. I already said I'd be happy if at least Surye went then I would have been comfortable not going. So your saying its more pro-town to wanna sit here and listen to someone else tell me what they saw?

[Celebloki]

And in my opinion ending the day isn't a bad idea because then we'd see what Cyberbob was. I forsee that it will be hard for anyone to get NKed solely because of the ???? roles. Everyones probably gonna be out and about and nothing will really happen. Whereas if we sit around and keep lynched people during the day without knowing what they truly are, then the mafia have the upper hand. They know who each other are and can purposely guide other players into who they know are town.

[Celebloki]

The issue is we don't have to lynch. Its just more time to discuss before people die over night.

I'm not worried you won't lynch people and talk. But everyone here isn't as "calm and collected" as you are and theres bound to be more lynches throughout the rest of the day (another 2 weeks) influenced by scum.

[Celebloki]

well, I mean that most people will probably say they are gonna go to so and sos house and do whatever, then they'll just get a PM back saying that person wasn't there cause they were out. This isn't a normal mafia game where all the vanilla townies sit at home and wait to die or get protected/investigated.

[Celebloki]

I definitely see where your coming from, my main concern is what I have already iterated, that some people in this thread (some that have already taken drastic steps) may not be as patient as you. I know it will provide us good info, but then what if day 2 comes along and we have lynched a lot of valuable townies that we needed. I just think lynching too many people is a bad idea while we still really don't know that much valuable info.

[Celebloki]

I guess we'll see what happens.

[Celebloki]

yeah so far it mainly seems like just you (celebloki) and surye are impatient

Why? because we're the only ones talking. I'm sorry that we're not like everyone else who has dropped out of the discussion and been lurking for a few days now.

[Celebloki]

I'd like some clarification on that, because as far as I'm aware, I killed sarc night 0.

hmmm, how intriguing.... I was already not liking BMs claim to vig.... but idk if I like your apparent claim to it either...

[Celebloki]

Aside: Happy birthday celebloki.

sank you good sir

[Celebloki]

Cebloki: Don't tell us not to play Mafia. As far as I'm concerned, the investigation and lynch of Cyberbob was a bonus, something which happened outside of core mafia play (discussing and lynching scummy players). Towns have gotten by without night actions before on just their wits.

When did I say not to play mafia, and that I was against killing cyberbob? I was just stating that ending the night early wouldn't necessarily mean a lot of people would die. Quite obviously, we had several power roles that could have killed. 2 mafias, vigs, and possibly a SK...yet we had 2 deaths. Sure theres a lot of people out there that can cause major trouble at night, but after thinking about it, due to everyone being out and about at night no one will be where anyone suspects.

[Celebloki]

QFT ^ I think BM is starting to look pretty scummy, I'd like to wait to see what he has to say back to primate before I vote but major

FOS: Battle Mage

[Celebloki]

I seriously don't see why BM hasn't been lynched already.

Vote: BM

You been gone 27 pages and thats all you say?


I do believe that BM needs to speak up and clear whats going on. Maybe more pressure will make him feel compelled to explain.

Vote: Battle Mage

[Celebloki]

Celebloki jumping on the wagon only makes me feel happier about lynching him soon.

I've got to agree. Celebloki jumped on, right after commenting on how the person before him, who had only posted once before in this game, had come out of the blue to place the vote. That does not, in any way, look good.

So I put him at L-8 and you call it a bandwagon? and I explained that I voted to apply pressure as BM has been posting all over the forums and can't say anything here?

[Celebloki]

Actually, I might agree with a Celebloki lynch, but I will attempt a little experiment first.

What kind of experiment?

Those that are setting him up for the next lynch, what are your points against him?

Yes can someone please tell me what they have against me? From what I gathered, people didn't like the idea of me wanting to investigate Cyberbob, or at least just send Surye, and we all saw how helpful it was when Nab went there on his own. And it also seems that some people were irked because I merely asked if it was possible to end the day early. So if someone could enlighten me on what they have against me, please do so.

[Celebloki]

1) Continuing to attack SF for lurking when the kind of lurking he was doing was clearly and had been stated to be non-intentional lurking, which is merely bad play not scummy.

Even though he stated it was lurking due to laziness and not just lurking I still don't like the idea of lurkers, this game was already going slow as it is.

2) Wanting to go with to investigate Cyber's house when you are in no way confirmed (As opposed to fairly expendable in case of traps and sorta in a way confirmed).

I never said I wanted to go by myself, and I even stated that I would be fine as long as Surye went since he is the most confirmed here. I just didn't like the idea of people completely unconfirmed going and then having to "trust" what they saw. I was saying that I would go with people, and again that I would be happy as long as Surye at least went to go investigate.

3) Wanting to just end the day.

I just don't like how when we lynch people we don't see the alignment. I'm just concerned that we'll lynch people, then lynch people helping them, then lynch cops investigating them and the next day we find out they were all Town. Yes theres the risk of all the infinite night possibilities happening, but I just felt that if everyone played their cards right they could protect themselves at night.

A) Including an SK on your list of possible killing groups when there were only 2 kills and mod stated 2 mafia N1, though this is minor as SK is common enough to possibly assume in large themes.

B) The OMG DONT CHECK MY HOUSE joke.

And those 2 go together, I was joking about staying away from my house, not checking it, I'm just paranoid at all the nightkillers we may have and somehow I got a high profile in this game, so I was half joking to all the possible killers out there to stay away from me.

[Celebloki]

We are also open to last minute applications for QB protection tonight.

I have a bad feeling I'm gonna get harassed tonight, may I stay in th QB safe-house tonight? On that note

Vote: End Day

[Celebloki]

3 deaths?.... So there is someone else out there besides the 2 mafias...I wasn't just being paranoid. Looks like sideney was poisoned imho.

[Celebloki]

I agree with it as well but I'm not sure of the Mod will allow it as it circumvents the lynching rules =p. But if it works that I think thats a great idea.

[Celebloki]

Hmm this is a very interesting turn of events over night. I don't like any of the role claims because now we basically know who all the cops are except for the one that investigated me and I certainly hope he stays quiet. We don't need anymore of that. As for ABRs dayvig I find that highly anti-town and I don't think I want him around even if he is town as he does more damage to the town than he helps anyway.

HOS: ABR

[Celebloki]

I don't feel comfortable distributing guns to anyone except the mayor and the cops he trusts quite honestly.

[Celebloki]

I don't think the daykilling solution to lack of role reveals is a great idea, to be honest.

Yeah I agree now, Kaleidoscope has made it clear imo that he won't fully reveal to us on dayvigs.

[Celebloki]

I don't think the daykilling solution to lack of role reveals is a great idea, to be honest.

Yeah I agree now, Kaleidoscope has made it clear imo that he won't fully reveal to us on dayvigs.

No? We got an alignment AND a role on Khelv, no?

His post was cryptic enough that I thought he might try and pull something.

[Celebloki]

Well, I am fairly convinced that ABR is scum and even though we have him bound to a chair he can still cause some harm.

Vote: ABR

[Celebloki]

I thought I was L-2, 9 to lynch right?

[Celebloki]

Kaleid said 9 in his day 2 post

[Celebloki]

oh... right Khelv got offed, I think its still 9 due to majority?

[Celebloki]

Mod: Whats the to lynch number?

Better be safe then sorry I suppose.

[Celebloki]

mmk, that was weird. I can't really state anything that has already been said, I am still sure he was some kind of scum, and the self hammer was to avoid a vig etc. I am not sure what his beef with DGB is about as I have not seen much from her as of yet.

[Celebloki]

oh lord DGB pulled a BM/ABR and actually hit scum...

[Celebloki]

Well I would congratulate you and am obviously happy you hit scum, but I don't like all these random dayvigs that keep going on =p

[Celebloki]

I agree with Surye's case against DGB and from the last several posts by DGB as well as the case against Natirasha I just feel like shes backed into a corner that she realizes she can't win and is frantically attacking and trying to change the subject. As we have seen before random dayvigs are not something town does. IF she gets to L-2 no one vote, we don't need another self hammer at the end.

Vote: DGB

[Celebloki]

well, Can't the Mayor do a ??? move and lock DGB up? Then we don't have to worry about her for a little while and if she is town then we don't kill her?

[Celebloki]

I apologize for my lack of posting int he past few days. I am going to

Unvote: DGB

for now but insist we keep her bound for the moment. I agree that she seems a tad suspicious still but theres more important things to worry about. This huge argument for the past few days has given any mafia a great chance to hide in the fire between DGB and Surye. As for the corrupt mayor idea I highly doubt it, that would give one mafia way too much power in the game and break it. I just know from other games that this is how Surye plays. I believe we should start to focus our attention more on the low posters as they are getting a free-ride outside the spotlight as the past 3 pages have been basically DGB and Surye.

[Celebloki]

We need more people playing this game.

This is precisely what I am talking about, now that most the active players have been killed/lynched we have the remaining scum that are trying to fly under the radar. Including Panzerjager and Ghostwriter who have said noothing since their prod a few pages ago. I think we should either request a replace or turn the heat on them a little bit. As for now I am going to apply a little more pressure to hjallti as he needs to give us a little more input of his own and not what other people have already said.

Vote: Hjallti

[Celebloki]

I think Its 4 on him, Me, Surye, Armlx, Natarisha thats based on the last VC by Kscope with him at none then the 4 of us voting him over the last 3-4 pages.

[Celebloki]

Yeah the day is ending tomorrow....Hjallti has not really said anything to defend himself as he himself has stated.

Whats with the vote to surye by panzer?

HOS: Panzerjager

And he didn't give any reason whatsoever.