Realistic Mafia - Game Over

[Natirasha]

Celebloki's name reminds me of Celebi, a pokemon I hate. It's obvious he's scum.

vote: Celebloki

[Natirasha]

Ooh, armix is here!

Unvote, vote: armix

[Natirasha]

I had a long-winded post about the current state of the game, but the internet hates me. In short, it was: Superfly lynch still unexplained; Suyre is trying a bit too hard to act town; Battle Mage is withholding information.

At the moment, I'm not really getting any vibes off anyone except Suyre, and even that is totally minor.

Also,

unvote

.

[Natirasha]

Posts 196 and 197.

As I said in the sign-up thread, although I did not participate in the original Realistic Mafia at Px2, I did watch it. In the original, there was four roles: Mafia, Townie, Cop(town-aligned), and Mayor(town-aligned, of course). The first three are self-explanatory. The mayor knew the identity of all four cops and got the results of all cop investigations, but was otherwise a simple townie. The cops did not know the mayor.

So far, it seems that K-Scope just stole the same set-up. This was alluded to at the end of the original(the actual thread was deleted, but this is the gist of it)

I could run this same exact set-up again and it would have played out totally differently.

This leads me to believe that BM is the mayor. While he might just be refering to muffinhead's newbieness with 196, he says Primate has a great scumdar in 197. He could be saying this because Primate investigated Superfly, and came up scum. If he was mayor, then he would know this.

And before you ask, yes, I am probably drawing conclusions where there are none.

[Natirasha]

Lot's of happenings a-goin' on.

I would like to tenatively confirm Suyre's claim. Ghostwriter and I were both at my house (he visited me). It was my idea to check internet news outlets to see if I could glean any more information that could be helpful, so I'm not exactly sure where the the illegal comes from (the cop who did that investigation might want to check their sanity). I can't honestly think of any other way Suyre could have gotten this information so

Unvote

Maybe they thought it was porn or something? Whatever, probably doesn't matter. I believe this for now.

I'd doubt any smart mafiate would leave his gun collection in the open at his house, but whatever. In the original, no one had guns except for mafia and cops. If this is the same set-up, then this seems to implicate him unless Suyre can confirm he's cop. I wouldn't recommend that now, though.

Vote: BM

.

With Nab's claim, I think I'll believe Suyre for now. Someone, please protect him tonight...he will be vital to the town.

[Natirasha]

Haha, my god, what have I done. I've just turned ABR into a Vig

Maybe you should go take a weapon to defend yourself, Mr. Mayor?

[Natirasha]

Haha, my god, what have I done. I've just turned ABR into a Vig

Maybe you should go take a weapon to defend yourself, Mr. Mayor?

I don't know that BM would give them up willingly, I don't want to be there if a shootout breaks out..

Well, if he truely is town, then he shouldn't be afraid to give them to the pretty-much-confirmed mayor. If he shoots you, then it's obvious he is not working with the town and we'll lynch him.

Although, I agree you should error on the side of caution and wait 'til ABR comes back or dies.

[Natirasha]

Just thought of something, the N0 NK's revealed alignment, why should lynches be any different?

Lynch alignments were revealed in the original.

[Natirasha]

[quote=GhostWriter]And there's still the thing where some cops are probably dirty, which would explain them telling the half-truth, and then dirtying it up.[/quote]
There weren't any in the original.

[Natirasha]

Read the first post in THIS ONE. It shows a possibility. I'm have not given the first one a glance. I wouldn't know what that one is like, because I do not want the expectations it gives me to blind me.

Fair enough.

Look, I just have my suspicions. That is the exact same first post as the original, substituting "New York" for another city(I think it was Baltimore or something). And there were none in the original. Now, Scope might've changed it, but I don't know.

[Natirasha]

surye, i just reread the first post and i don't think you should risk having one of the cops protect you..it said the mayor is known to have bodyguards. so unless one of the cops is a bodyguard as well, whoever the bodyguards are (if there are any) should protect you instead

Cops could Bodyguard in the original. I believe the actions they had were
1. Investigate someone
2. Go talk to someone
3. Bodyguard
4. Kill someone

or something like that.

[Natirasha]

It seems some crazy stuff has happened in a short time. In the meanwhile, I had a death in the family and will be gone until Sunday.

Just sayin'.

[Natirasha]

This will be my last post before leaving for California, and I have a few things to say.

Suyre:
1. I'm sorry for referencing the previous game so much. It seems that they have the thread stored in archives at Px2. When I get back, I will attempt to find it.
2. Do you know which players are the cops? While I do not want you to out them, this may be important later on(claims and such). In addition to this, do you know how many cops there are?


Anyways, people I'm suspicious of right now...
-Battle Mage(I know he's hiding something...)
-Primate(why kill N0?)
-ABR(seriously, I know this is your play, but calm down and think rationally for a moment)

See you Sunday!

[Natirasha]

I had a long post, but the internet ate it.

...k.

...I think we need to see the scene of Sarc's death. There may be some tools to find out what really killed Sarcastro. Suyre might be able to get some forensics stuff and we could go to town. Anyone willing to go? I'll go, but I need some backup.

[Natirasha]

I'm up for ending the day. Night brings information, although I'm wondering what the mafia will do, since everyone is pretty much in the Safehold. I, personally, am not joining that, since I'm sure something is going to go down.

I'm believing BM's response. Why would he lie about that? If so, that means that we've destroyed half of one mafia already!

With that, we need to

vote: End Day

to see what exactly is going on with the deaths today.

[Natirasha]

What is scummy is the fact you are voting to end discussion.

Vote: End Day

At least try to say something...

[Natirasha]

FoS: Skitzer

. My take is that he went home to
a. lock his door
b. lure people to his house, where he set up a trap for when they investigated him.

[Natirasha]

armlx was not at his house last night.

[Natirasha]

armlx was not home. He's scum, people.

As for the innocent results, after last night's fiasco, he probably hid anything that was remotely scummy in a safe or something, then left to kill dahill or skitzer(I'm assuming sideney's death is due to sykedoc for now).

[Natirasha]

Albert, this might be a good time to say who all was at the QB.

[Natirasha]

Albert, this might be a good time to say who all was at the QB.

First of all, I don't see the point in contradicting direct cop investigation. None of results have failed us yet.

Fair enough.

Second, I've signed a full anonymity disclosure contract, and its up to my guests to reveal themselves if they wish.

Alright. May I ask inquire as to if armlx was at the QB, though?

[Natirasha]

Alright, I really don't feel like explaining myself. Plus, with Suyre's little post it should be obvious what I am.

I'm a cop. To be specific, the one who investigated Nab and armlx. Suyre can confirm this.

[Natirasha]

...

Natashira, there's a reason I was not revealing I saw you at my house given Surye's reveal of results on me.

Fair enough. You probably just want to NK me, anyways instead of doing it in broad daylight. However, our question still stands: Where were you last night?

[Natirasha]

Time to play: "Match That Quote!!!!"

...

Natashira, there's a reason I was not revealing I saw you at my house given Surye's reveal of results on me.

Fair enough. You probably just want to NK me, anyways instead of doing it in broad daylight. However, our question still stands: Where were you last night?

Hmm... I wonder what could match with that... hmm... maybe... could it be?... but that's so obvious... IT IS!!! Here's the quote!

Home, and while Natashira wouldn't have seen me I did see him rummaging through my stuff.

I WIN!!!

Shut up.

That leads to the next question: why did you not answer the door, or interact with me when you saw I was there?

[Natirasha]

Hello, Mr Mayor, Surye, Sir: Can you please answer these questions? Thank you

In what capacity do you receive police reports (does the mod send you a brief or do they send one themselves?)

What was the content of Natarisha's report that led you to say Ghostwriter and I were doing "illegal" things?

Natarisha, what did you see that might have caused you to report this?

Look, I just told K-Scope, "I'm investigating Nabakov."
I got back a PM stating that h and GW were looking at "illegal activitiesyouon the internet and that I sent the report to Suyre. That was all. I'm sorry for the trouble I caused, but I have no more information on this topic.

Last night, I investigated armlx because I thought he was scum after yesterday, and Suyre toldme to investigate him.

I'm not commenting on ABR yet. He's very aggressive, but that seems to be his playstyle from the other games I've read. However, I will renew my

HUEG LIEK XBOX FoS: ABR

for right now.

[Natirasha]

That leads to the next question: why did you not answer the door, or interact with me when you saw I was there?

This seemed to slip through the cracks. armlx, please answer these questions.

[Natirasha]

That leads to the next question: why did you not answer the door, or interact with me when you saw I was there?

Hiding, as I figured the odds of someone entering my house with intent to passively interact were much lower than someone entering with intentions that weren't in my best interests, and the latter case is probably a lot worse the the first is good.

Natashira: What made you so confident your investigation was incorrect that you revealed yourself just to say you didn't find me in my house?

Correction, my question slipped through the cracks after I answered yours.

The fact I've seen this exact setup before and the scum did exactly that same ploy.

Whatever, I have no evidence, so I'll lay off your case. Can we agree to disagree?

[Natirasha]

So...I'm considering DGB not to be part of Albert's mafia, but I really don't want to get into WIFOM, which that is.

Any guesses on which mafia sydicate he's part of?

[Natirasha]

I don't get it. So he chose to break in???

Yes. People have a fourth action. Understand that.


Anyways, I really want to state something: why did you shoot Dasqian? I understand he was scum and all, but...you shot him over nothing. Dude, I don't trust you.

Vote: DGB

(and is braced to be shot for it.

[Natirasha]

Why did you shoot Dasqian? I understand he was scum and all, but...you shot him over nothing. Dude, I don't trust you.

I fully answered this question already. I was very justified to shoot Dasquian. My premise was completely faulty, but I didn't know that at the time.

Speaking of "over nothing" you wrote this:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 12#1035612

So...I'm considering DGB not to be part of Albert's mafia, but I really don't want to get into WIFOM, which that is.

Any guesses on which mafia sydicate he's part of?

Which is a very odd post, first, it's assuming, out of the clear blue sky, that I'm mafia, and then wanting to figure out which mafia? It's a semantic trap like "when did you stop beating your wife?"

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY...

HOW DO YOU KNOW ALBERT IS MAFIA???

He has not been revealed.

vote: Natirisha

Die scum die.

We all know ABR was scum. I doubt a townie would self-lynch himself to avoid a reveal.

On the first part, I never said you are scum. I just said I was pretty sure you were not part of his syndicate because he implicated you.

[Natirasha]

Anyway..... Right now i'm a bit sketch on letting anyone else die, If someone could simplify the current top suspect and position that would be nice. I tried reading back but i feel as if im missing something important.

The current suspects are DGB and I.

The argument vs. DGB is two pages back. Look for Suyre's long post.

The argument vs. me is a page back. Look for one of DGB's posts.

[Natirasha]

Um... guys, if the reason Dasquian was shot in the first place was because he was claiming that reveals are unquestionable, why has

nobody

questioned his reveal (given that it includes practically no evidence to indicate that he is scum, just a declaration). Could Natarisha get on this?

Also, shot in the eye is the way Moe Green went down in the Godfather.

Surye is giving DGB waaay to many powers. What kind of role can perform a kill and an investigation in the same night while completely covering its tracks? How can Surye accuse DGB of being scum for "opportunism" while completely downplaying the huge fact that she daykilled a scum (if Dasquain really is scum). That's more pro-town than just about every other player in the game even if it was accidental/opportunistic (mutually exclusive?)

That said, I think it strains credulity that DGB would not figure out that townies had free rein until now. People were acting up all over D1; what did she think was going on?

I'll get on the investigation.

Look, Suyre actually is not making too much of a stretch with scum. I'm just going to open up the floodgates now with this. This is the summary to the original. I know, I made a few contradictions about this(none of them favorable to my position), but I misread. http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=11
Using this, we can see some absurd happenings. One night, both mafias and the cops all had a shootout. Before that, one of those two mafias was already doing some killing. Another night, they attempted to frame a townie. You see, we've only been using a fraction of our possible powers.

So...yeah. What Suyre's been saying could probably happen. Also, just because DGB shot Dasquian does not make it a protown action. It seemed very rash and she should have at least consulted the town with that.

However, I see armlx's logic. So I'm going to get off DGB's back for now.

Unvote

.

[Natirasha]

I know who you REPORTED, not who you investigated. You could have EASILY sent in a false report.

I cannot do this. I'm sure the other investigators do not have such a choice either. I do not send the report. The report is sent by the Mod.

No matter how you spin it, EVERY play you've made in this game has been oppurtunistic,

all of them looking very town

, but often not actualy helping the town (though killing scum was nice).

How can they be opportunistic, AND looking very town???

Easy, do and say town things that are too late to be useful.

What??? What's wrong with you, Surye? If you weren't mayor, I would totally call you out for being scum.

That's something to think about--what if we had a corrupt mayor? I mean, I highly doubt it, but it's still a possibility. I still trust Suyre 99%.

[Natirasha]

I can confirm that the mod writes reports. I have no control over what's in mine or I wouldn't of put the "illegal activities" in Nab's.

[Natirasha]

unvote, tentative vote: Hjallti.

After rereading his posts, he has bandwagoned a LOT and has done nothing of his own.

[Natirasha]

2. DrippingGoofball-Confirmed Cop
7. Surye-Confirmed Mayor.
9. Celebloki-Confirmed by investigation
10. Sensfan-Not confirmed.
11. Awesome Pants-Not confirmed
12. Hjallti-Not confirmed
13. PanzerjagerNot confirmed
15. armlx-Confirmed by investigation
16. Ghostwriter-Confirmed by investigation
18. NabakovNabakov-Confirmed by investigation
19. Natirasha-Confirmed Cop
21. Crub-Not confirmed
23. Sykedoc-Not Confirmed
25. Singing Librarian-Not confirmed

so, our current suspect list...
Sensfan
Awesome Pants
Hjallti
Panzerjager
Crub
Sykedoc
Singing Librarian

of these, Awesome Pants, Panzerjager and Hjallti are my top suspects.

[Natirasha]

I investigated them. I would know what I investigated, no?

[Natirasha]

I am half-willing to shoot Awesome Pants right now. He hasn't done anything all game, AND has posted a whole 9 times. At least the others have something resembling a confirmation(panzerjager) or are at least posting somewhat. He isn't even trying.

[Natirasha]

I will give him three days.

In the meantime, I am going to go grab some bulletproof armor from the police department, so um...when I leave town square in a minute, that's where I went.

[Natirasha]

Alright, I grabbed two flashbangs from the station.This is just a precaution. I also grabbed my bulletproof vest.

In my eyes, as the officer who investigated them, when the investigation specifically said that I thought they were probably not town, I'm willing to count them confirmed. I guess I could agree to a "third list", though.

The mafia WinCon was standard.

I guess I could agree to replacing Awesome instead of killing him.

Mod, may we get a prod on Panzerjager and Awesome Pants?

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: Actually, I want to know how Crub knew I was grabbing some flashbangs...

[Natirasha]

Whoa, whoa!

Look, I'm just preparing for the worst, honestly. I'm now a mafia target, and if Hjallti or anyone we would lynch does some last-minute death antics before they die, then I would be one of the top targets. That's why I got the armor.

The flashbangs are in case something goes wrong. If my knowledge of them is correct, they would alert other players because of the noise they create. In addition to alerting others something is going on, it might give me just enough time to either kill the attacker, or escape. So that's why I got flash-bangs.

[Natirasha]

Mr. Mayor, do you want some armor?

[Natirasha]

I'm willing to blind a witness if it lets me blind a possible assailant and therefore saving my life/the witness's life.

[Natirasha]

I agree we shouldn't discuss 'can cops be scum' all the time, but unless somehow proven otherwise we can not risk to call cops confirmed town. It still seems the lists posted so far are trying to imply this.

Contradiction...

[Natirasha]

After a Hjallti death, I'm aiming for Panzer.

[Natirasha]

My answer for the final Jeopardy question is Lithuania. I'm betting $2000.

[Natirasha]

KScope: When's the deadline for the end of day?

[Natirasha]

Alright, we have one question remaining today, do we want to kill Hjallti?

I'm currently leaning towards a yes, but what do you say?

[Natirasha]

Last night was strange, too say the least.

I found DGB and Panzer fighting in front of Panzer's house. Suyre asked that I investigate Panzer. I'm not sure why DGB was there.

[Natirasha]

I forgot to

vote: Hjallti

.

Anyways, on Awesome_Pants, I believe I have the answer we all seek: Scum can cover their scummyness. I brought this up a bit day two, when I was pushing for an armlx claim. I find it severely likely scum can just say "I'm hiding anything scummy in a safe" or something.

Also, someone was trifling through my house last night. I forgot to add this in my last post. Apparently, while I was gone(and, yes,

I did not return to my house at all last night

) last night, someone broke in...

[Natirasha]

One thing I've been wondering...

How has Surye been instructing his Cops on who to investigate? Can the whole police force day/night talk, or something?

Police Force does not know each other, but Suyre has a masonic relationship with the whole force, I believe.

I will also claim that DGB and I are now masons, as we revealed our cop status to each other last night after he shot Panzer.

[Natirasha]

My PM says that you fired the first shot, but that I joined in afterwards. It also said that Panzerjager was following you and attempting to shoot you. I'd consider the firing a null-tell.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: Yeah, mine's a knife. That was a typo.

[Natirasha]

Nothing really odd with that.

Back to Hjallti. If his next post is anything other than a claim of info, shoot him.

I would be okay with DGB or Nat doing the shooting, since we've all agreed on it. And so Hjallti can't hammer himself,

Unvote

, but my vote is there in spirit.

Nat, I believe you have the town's support if you take him out, following a lack of a real defence.

Yes sir.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: I just tied up Hjallti, so he can't attack us. Better safe than sorry.

[Natirasha]

Well, why don't you join me in tying him up then, Suyre?

[Natirasha]

Just sent the order to kill Hjallti.

[Natirasha]

So...
3 Scicillian dead.
3 Corsican Dead.

With this many cops, I'd assume that there are ~2 more in each group?

I'm not too sure we should go to night yet. Who else is on our list of non-cop, non-mayors(since we cannot consider our investigations to work, now).



10. Sensfan
15. armlx
16. Ghostwriter
18. NabakovNabakov
21. Crub
23. Sykedoc
25. Singing Librarian

Of these, I doubt that Armlx are scum, along with Nabakov(the first due to his constant pro-towness, the second because two seperate cops investigated him and got innocent, the first night one).


10. Sensfan
16. Ghostwriter
21. Crub
23. Sykedoc
25. Singing Librarian

Of these five, I believe that SL is the one we need to take a look at. Anyone object?

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: DGB just confirmed himself scum in our daychat. I've already sent the order.

[Natirasha]

It was something like this.

DGB:Alright, what PM did you get last night.
Me: [My N2 PM] What's yours?
DGB: [Her PM]
Me: K. Looks like it's a minor difference, I wouldn't think much of it.
DGB: Agreed. I think we should investigate Suyre.
Me: Alright[I was playing along, I was suspicious at this point].
DGB: You should find the third cop and tell me, I'll investigate Suyre.[At this point, I was even more suspicious on the sheer fact, you know, she wanted to investigate Suyre, not together or anything. I thought it was a thinly veiled attempt to kill Suyre. Plus, she wanted the identity of the third cop.]
Me: Alright, we're doing this tonight?
DGB: Yes. Also, there's something I haven't told anyone else.
Me: What's that?
DGB: My actual role is that of a spy. I'm not sure what the differences are.[I knew this was scum, at this point. I sent the request then. The data adds up far too much to point to not being scum]

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: and in case it matters, that was paraphrased.

[Natirasha]

Nat, I am not pleased at the liberty you have taken in relating our exchange, in particular, you quote me as allegedly saying:

"Yes. Also, there's something I haven't told anyone else."

Alright, I admit I'd doctored that bit. But I feared that if I just kinda seguayed in with a whole "Oh, my role name is spy", it'd sound fake.

In fact, I hinted, earlier in thread, that I am not a cop. Check: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 00#1042600 where I wrote "For the record, my rolename is not "cop."

You should have made it more obvious, I believed you meant your role was that of the Police Officer.

So this is absolutely not something that "I haven't told anyone else" as you misleadingly suggest, but something that's been out in the open for several days.

You said in in what seemed to be jest, and that doesn't really work.

Also, you claim that I wrote: "You should find the third cop and tell me" but I did not say "AND TELL ME." And I said MAYBE you should find the third cop while I investigate Surye. I was trying to see what our best options are.

You didn't say that? Hm...it seems you didn't. Still the implication was there.

I had sent you my role PM, but I no longer trust you. I deleted it from my outbox.

You should probably tell the town, if you are not scum, what it was in as much possible detail without activating a modkill on us.

The rest is essentially correct, but the discrepancies, along with the gratuitous accusations, disturb me.

"Gratuitous acusations", come on, you can't admit that you wanting TO BE ALONE with Suyre, while you are still under the suspicion of scum, and you suggesting the idea, AND you not wanting me to be there AND the fact that our investigations are pretty much meaningless anymore AND the fact that you have had it out for Suyre since yesterday. You can't really say that your actions were not scummy.

[Natirasha]

I think it's time we outed the last cop and Khelv's mason. We need more confirmed(since we have stopped the "Corruption in the Police Department"). Anyways, I suppose I'll hop on the

Vote: SL

bandwagon.

[Natirasha]

I think it's time we outed the last cop and Khelv's mason.

I'll take claim to being both, then.

Your a mason cop with Khelv? Suyre, is this true? Do you mind if we exchange badges to create another Masonteam?

[Natirasha]

SensFan: show me your badge so we can be masons.

[Natirasha]

I'm fine with a SL lynch.

I've already sent the assistance PM.

And in case anyone has any doubts, me and SF were showing each other our badges.

[Natirasha]

I don't know if pairs would be more likely to get both killed.

This. Plus, I don't actually think investigating will get us anywhere. We know scum can cover their tracks. I think it'd be better if us cops just met up and held down the fort. Once the mod gives us the masonry, we should discuss where there.

[Natirasha]

Please don't say you just shot someone.

...What did you do?

[Natirasha]

Action sent in, probably will be processed after the restraining.

armlx: what did you do?

[Natirasha]

I'm for the plan still.

[Natirasha]

The only thing that I can add since that point is that I overheard what SensFan whispered to Natirasha, but I won't repeat what I heard - it's not something we want scum to hear.

Crap.

Nat, I'll leave it up to you. You know how to call it on or off.

I'll tell you where to meet through Suyre tonight. Got it?

[Natirasha]

unvote, vote: Sykedoc

.

I'll just follow the crowd, although I don't believe this will help much.

[Natirasha]

Natirasha, what do you think will help more then?

I don't know. First, if we're following Sykedoc, we should tie him up. I'm sending in the restraining post now.

[Natirasha]

I have an idea, but I want to discuss it with Suyre tonight before I present it to the town.

And this is my paranoia speaking, but: GW: is that atually what armlx and SF said?

[Natirasha]

Should shoot him(Syke)?

[Natirasha]

That's what happens when people don't help me tie people up. Will someone assist me this time?

Anyways, I'm going to the police department again...I need a new gun.

[Natirasha]

Go ahead with the killing, if you want.

[Natirasha]

Damn. The police is no longer giving officers guns. So I'm going to the gun shop. Be back soon.

[Natirasha]

Damn. The police is no longer giving officers guns. So I'm going to the gun shop. Be back soon.

Fate(The mod) clearly doesn't want you to get another gun. You know what they say about tempting fate...

I want my gun, goddammit. If this doesn't work, I'll try one last idea, and give it a rest.

[Natirasha]

Nat, is your last idea based on the other game you linked to? If so, doesn't work.

No, my last idea is to loot DGB's. And that actually worked in the last game.

[Natirasha]

We are allowing Suyre his life, right?

Anyways, I think we should go back to the

Vote: Singing Librarian

.

[Natirasha]

Oh yeah.

unvote, vote: End Day

.

[Natirasha]

Um...yeah.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: No one come to my house tonight. I am shooting every and anyone...with my nailgun...

[Natirasha]

I'd like to ask what SF was doing at SL's house. As it is, you 2 look like scumbuds.

Anyways, I am not entirely against an armlx mayor, but I think SF or I would be the better choice on the sheer fact then we can be MasonCops.

[Natirasha]

I suppose I was a bit too paranoid, but at this point, we are dealing with a menace that we actually don't know the identity of. We could be in LyLo, or we could be dealing with a single lone gunman. Anyways, did you get anything from his house, SF?

[Natirasha]

I'm actually supporting a SL kill over GW.

Anyways, I just realized something in terms of voting.

If we elect Sensfan, then he can't kill people because of the same thing that happened to Suyre.

If we elect me(or armlx, but I think masoncops is a better idea), then SF can kill people.

[Natirasha]

I'd still like to err with caution, though.

[Natirasha]

Look, this is my list as to who might be scum now.

Pro-town: armlx, Natirasha, Sensfan
Scum: Crub; SL; Nabakov; GW

Of the four, I'm leaning towards a Nabakov town, and a GW town.

As such, I still support a SL lynch. And here's why.

1. Why did you leave your house after Sensfan left?
2. Why were you late to town square? Dropping off a dead Suyre's body, perhaps?
2a. Why were you late to town square, Sensfan?
3. This is what I think what went down last night.

Suyre was still tied up in town square when we left. After "hiding in the bathroom" all night, Sensfan left and he had a chance to leave his house. At this time, he quickly went and killed Suyre. If you notice, it distinctly says in the day post that "Mayor killed in town square". Suyre would have been still tied up. Afterwards, you leave to erase the evidence/put up your gun and returned to town square. As such, you were late. Additionally, I think the reason Sensfan didn't find you was because you were speaking with your scum partner all night...at their house. However, this brings the question:

why were you seen leaving your house after Sensfan left?

Anyways,

Kill: Singing Librarian

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: I am acepting hugs, by the way.

[Natirasha]

Considering I was found innocent by a confirmed innocent cop, I do not understand why I am on everyone's list of possible scum at this point.

Natirasha considering you investigated Nab/GW night one and found one/both innocent why do you now think they're scum.

Since these both come down to the same question, I'll just say: We cannot trust our investigations.

Also Natirasha can you please clarify in your post above which "SensFan"'s are actually supposed to be SL's?

They are all correct.

I did not send in a kill, that was simply saying "I want you dead," SL.

Anyways, I can get behind a Crub lynch.

[Natirasha]

Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.

[Natirasha]

Crub makes a good point, the same cop that cleared him also cleared Bloki.

What exactly does that mean? That means he didn't lie. However, that still doesn't change the sheer fact: our investigations are useless.

No, my point is ours in general haven't been 100% proven useless, but Awesome's have. Cop sanities and what not.

(facepalm)

[Natirasha]

I'm starting to think of just ignoring all previous investigations at this point. Anyways, I'm still saying we kill SL or Crub.

[Natirasha]

We should do something. Like kill SL.

[Natirasha]

vote: Singing Librarian

We just agreed to not vote anymore...

At least SL is useful scum who tries to be town.

[Natirasha]

You have the gun...

[Natirasha]

...crap. So...um...let's untie him.

Also, as much as it pains me to say, I think we have to lynch people from now on...

[Natirasha]

Guys, let's just lynch...

I'm thinking Crub. Or GW/NabNab. Crub's first choice, though.

[Natirasha]

One moment, I'm going to go get a weapon.

Wait a minute...I can't.

Sensfan, go get a knife from your house or something.

[Natirasha]

Waitanotherminute...nevermind. I forgot we are lynching from now on...

Vote: Crub.

[Natirasha]

I looked through his files, there was nothing bad. Still, disregarding investigations, the only person I can consider semi-confirmed is SF, and even then...

[Natirasha]

I stayed at home all night. Nothing happened.

Anyways, one mafia group now? Interesting. If true, let's look at the implications.

1. There are exactly two scum left.
2. They know each other.

From this, as much as it pains me to say it, that means that there are two viable choices here, NabNab/GW, or Me/Sens.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: However, I am town, so I must say,

Vote: GW

. Let's test this.

[Natirasha]

Another scenario is that everything in the papers is a lie, since the "corrupted police office" is apparently untrustworthy. Ergo, We're at square one.

[Natirasha]

I guess you were investigating me?

No, actually. I went down to the Police Office, only to find it closed. You met me on the way back to my house.

May I inquire as to why you went to the police station?

[Natirasha]

(turbo facepalm)

That was me posting.

[Natirasha]

Alright, I'm back(Your also lucky this game is rather slow).

Right now, I'm thinking either Crub, Armlx, or a Crub/armlx scumteam is the way to go.

I am actually ashamed of myself that I've let armlx slide as long as he has. I don't trust my investigations, and he really has nothing in any sense of anything to prove himself town. Heck, even Crub has the whole singing thing going on a bit. Plus, his recent posts unnerve me a bit.

[Natirasha]

Alright, I'm back(Your also lucky this game is rather slow).

Right now, I'm thinking either Crub, Armlx, or a Crub/armlx scumteam is the way to go.

I am actually ashamed of myself that I've let armlx slide as long as he has. I don't trust my investigations, and he really has nothing in any sense of anything to prove himself town. Heck, even Crub has the whole singing thing going on a bit. Plus, his recent posts unnerve me a bit.

Nat, do you have any objections to a NL + try to get more info at night?

No, although something is nagging me about, I'm not sure what, though...

[Natirasha]

Not really. I want to speak to SF, but we must get to night first.

Anyways, we need to try and finish the game by the 10th, since I'm leaving town for two weeks that day.

[Natirasha]

Vote: End Day

[Natirasha]

Can we prod NabNab, Crub, and GW?

[Natirasha]

Vote: GW

for the win.

[Natirasha]

I accept Sensfan's notion.

[Natirasha]

Vote: No Lynch

Why do we have to go through all these semantics?

[Natirasha]

I honestly thought town would win when the only scum(and the only cops) left were Sens and I. It was really annoying knowing he was rival scum, but unable to kill him, since it would practically confirm me as such, too. Thankfully, we averted it just in time.