Newbie 805 - Game Over!?!?!

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Newbie 805 - Game Over!?!?!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:55 am

Post by Vel-Rahn Koon »

You awaken to the hustle and bustle of your home town’s daily activity. Little did you know that the peaceful quiet of your normal, everyday life would come crashing down today. It seems that one of your fellow citizens has angered the Mob, and has paid for it with his life! What are you going to do? Why, you’re going to get your peaceful, little town back, that’s what…

Your job, fair citizens of the town’s Ruling Council, is to discover who among you belong to the Mafia and summarily lynch them. Two of your fellow Council members are working for the Mafia - find them before they take over the Council and the town!



Living Players (4)
-
Confirmed players are in bold.

Brutal Assassin
(replaced Achilles)
FF7Kotrt ^

Parhelic

Tuberkulos
(replaced Wesson)

^
indicates SE player.
*
indicates IC player.
The ICs are here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.



Dead Players (5)

catsup137
(replaced James.Denholm ^),
Mafia Roleblocker
, lynched Day 1
NabakovNabakov *
,
Townie
, killed Night 1
crypto
,
Townie
, lynched Day 2
Starbuck
(replaced Caecias),
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, killed Night 2
Excedrin
,
Mafia Goon
, committed suicide Day 3


Brutal Assassin, FF7Kotrt, Parhelic, and Tuberkulos
won the game for the
Town
team!!



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Day 1 Lynch | Day 2 Lynch
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:55 am

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Game Rules:


General Gameplay and Etiquette:
  1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
  4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
  5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
  6. In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  7. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.
  8. All Newbie games have strict 3-week deadlines.
    Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:
  1. A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
  2. Votes should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
    Vote: Player
    ).
  3. Vote revocations should be bolded or they may not be counted (e.g.
    Unvote: Player
    or
    Unvote
    ). Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may
    Vote: No Lynch
    - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
  5. Votes/Unvotes that are bolded correctly and are unambiguous (with respect to player nicknames/abbreviations) will count.
  6. Deadlines may be implemented if I feel that discussion is lagging. At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.
    There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.

  7. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.
  8. Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; the lynched player may not post during twilight but all other living players may continue to post.
  9. Once you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post.
Miscellaneous/Mechanics:
  1. Red
    or
    Purple
    text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed.
  2. Votecounts will be posted once per page or once per day, whichever is less.
  3. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
  4. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
  5. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.

  6. Prods of missing players will be issued upon request or on the 4th day of no activity. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  7. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity, up to and including a Modkill. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night.
  8. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to Mod discretion and will be handled as the Mod sees fit on a case-by-case basis.
  9. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
    Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
The Golden Rule:


Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game.



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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:56 am

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The F11 setup is the current game format used in Newbie games. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen from one of four possible setups as detailed below:
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Sane Doctor, 5 Townies
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies
  • 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies
  • 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Doctor, 6 Townies
If either of the first two setups are in play, and the situation occurs where the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will still be able to submit both night kills and roleblocks (roleblocking is a function of the Roleblocker; night kills are a function of the scum team as a whole).



These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:

Mafia-Aligned players:

Mod wrote:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,
name
. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.
  • During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  • During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  • You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  • You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.
Mod wrote:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,
name
. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.
  • During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  • As a Roleblocker, you have the ability to distract any player throughout the night, effectively negating their night ability, if they have one.
  • Send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to block. If they have a Night action, it will have no effect. You will not be informed as to whether your roleblock worked or not.
  • During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  • You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  • You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Town-Aligned players:

Mod wrote:

You are a normal townsperson, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.
  • You have no abilities at Night other than getting a good night's rest.
  • Although you do not have any special abilities, your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
  • At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  • You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.
Mod wrote:

You are the local law enforcement, and can tell the good guys from the bad.
  • Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate.
  • The Moderator will inform you as to that person’s guilt or innocence.
  • At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  • In a Newbie game, you will always get a correct result (no sanity issues).
  • You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.
Mod wrote:

You are the local physician, and can protect people from harm.
  • Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to protect.
  • If someone attempts to kill that player during the Night, they will be spared.
  • You may not protect yourself.
  • At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  • In a Newbie game, your protection target will always live through the night (no quacks).
  • You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:52 am

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All players have confirmed! Get to lynching!!



As an aside, caecias is going to be w/o internet until Monday/Tuesday.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:21 am

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Well, hello everybody.

Vote: Achilles


Let's see how invulnerable you really are :P
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:15 am

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Oh, God, it's James again.

It seems I have no choice!

Vote: James.Denholm.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:01 am

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Vote: NabakovNabakov


Inexperience-Challenged in a newbie game means you need some sort of a handicap. :3
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:24 am

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FF7Kotrt wrote:Inexperience-Challenged in a newbie game means you need some sort of a handicap. :3
Not true.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:33 am

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Vote crypto


You have to start somewhere.[/i][/b]
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:30 pm

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crypto wrote:Oh, God, it's James again.
Nice to see you too, crypto.

Vote: Wesson
because I was going to vote crypto... But two votes during RVS is, IMO, one too many.
Currently in [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12195]Mini 839[/url], [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1838415]Open 165[/url].

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:44 pm

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Oh, just quickly, to those who haven't set an avatar: Just for ease of reading, could you set one? In my opinion, it helps the brain quickly identify who posted what, or something like that.

You know what I mean.

You don't have to if you don't want too, of course. I'm not trying to pressure you into doing anything.

It's totally up to you.

...

Well, not really. It more depends if you can think of an interesting avatar.

Not that they need to be interesting, of course. I'm not pressuring you into choosing an interesting avatar. At least, I hope not.

Because it would be a bit odd if you chose a bland one. But that would make it interesting, I suppose, because it would be rather different to all the others...

It's nothing you need to stay up late into the night thinking about, tossing and turning over in your sleep.

I mean, if you want to, go ahead and worry and fret over your avatar.

If you want to do that, do that, by all means.

Don't let me bias you.

I'd hate to think I biased you.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:08 pm

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TLDR: Get an avatar.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:37 pm

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vote Parhelic
because he thinks I have a heel :p
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:42 am

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MOD:
I hate to do this, but I'm going to be V/LA until Monday (family trip). I should have Internet access by then, but if not please replace me.

Sorry for the trouble.

I don't like Kotrt's IC comment. I also am not particularly fond of James' long-winded avatar post. It's as though he's trying to be too nice.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:24 am

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James.Denholm wrote:
crypto wrote:Oh, God, it's James again.
Nice to see you too, crypto.

Vote: Wesson
because I was going to vote crypto... But two votes during RVS is, IMO, one too many.
Why is 2 votes too many? I don't like this theory.

Vote: James.Denholm


Also, how do you like my avatar?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:29 am

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Excedrin wrote:Why is 2 votes too many?
It's best not to bandwagon during the random voting stage, for obvious reasons. Doing so makes you look scummy, so regardless of James' alignment it was an understandable thing to do.
I don't like this theory.
Even if, contrary to my advice, you think the theory is poor, it alone is not a legitimate reason to vote for someone.

You seem to be straw-manning James' random vote. Consequently, it appears that you are trying too hard to find a legitimate reason to vote for someone, especially considering that during RVS you don't
need
a legitimate reason to vote. So you're either an overzealous townie or a goon prematurely groping for good arguments. Either way, I'll
FOS: Excedrin
to get the game rolling.

Unvote
because we now have a point of conversation ... and because I hate RVS.

For what it's worth this early in the game, Excedrin and FF7Kotrt are my top suspects.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:24 am

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FF7Kotrt wrote:
Vote: NabakovNabakov


Inexperience-Challenged in a newbie game means you need some sort of a handicap. :3
The question is, do you
want
to handicap me?

@Crypto: I really don't see where Excedrin is strawmanning anybody. James said that two votes is too many in RVS, and that is exactly what Excedrin objected to. The reason
why
he objected is circumspect (mainly because he did not provide it), but I would be a bit more careful about throwing around terms with their own wiki pages.

Vote: Wesson
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:27 am

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So, we've got something going now.
Unvote
.

crypto: For you, is an RV Joke reason really good enough to place someone that high on your suspicion list? (Even if it is rather early in the game?)

NabakovNabakov: Only if you're scum. :3
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:58 am

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FF7Kotrt wrote:crypto: For you, is an RV Joke reason really good enough to place someone that high on your suspicion list? (Even if it is rather early in the game?)
Well, we need to bear in mind that my list of suspects is pretty meaningless at this point in time. That said, I didn't recognize the IC comment as a joke.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:25 am

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crypto wrote:Well, we need to bear in mind that my list of suspects is pretty meaningless at this point in time.
If you knew this, why did you post it?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:03 am

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Parhelic wrote:If you knew this, why did you post it?
Because I am trying to move the game forward and because I believe there's something worth looking at, even if my points aren't actually valid. I'm more than a little pissed off by your objection to
my
attempt to move the game forward when so far
you
have said nothing of worth.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:18 am

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crypto wrote:I'm more than a little pissed off by your objection to
my
attempt to move the game forward when so far
you
have said nothing of worth.
Is it truly moving the game forward if your suspect list is meaningless (your words)?
Perhaps it is you being the overzealous townie here? I see you accusing other players of suspicious play when there is none to be found (FF7Kotrt post 6, Excedrin post 14), and this in turn makes me suspicious of you.

I would however agree that James.Denholm's post 10 is a little strange - I see no purpose for the second half of the post other than to deliberately confuse.

As for not posting anything of worth, these games take time and though I have not been posting, I have been observing. I shall try to post my thoughts more often crypto, to save you becoming more pissed off.

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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:39 pm

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James.Denholm wrote:
crypto wrote:Oh, God, it's James again.
Nice to see you too, crypto.

Vote: Wesson
because I was going to vote crypto... But two votes during RVS is, IMO, one too many.
Explain this one to me please? At this point in the game what's the big difference between one or two votes. If anything opnions like these stall progress. I'm all for progress, this just reminds me of stalling which I hate jk.
FF7Kotrt wrote:
Vote: NabakovNabakov


Vote: Wesson
Seriously? That's all I have to say, I hope this is the reaction you wanted.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:46 pm

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Wesson wrote:
FF7Kotrt wrote:
Vote: NabakovNabakov

Vote: Wesson
Seriously? That's all I have to say, I hope this is the reaction you wanted.
I'm confused. Did you misquote here on accident? I don't remember voting for you, and looking through the thread, it seems that two people other than me have voted for you, but not me. Maybe you meant to quote Nabakov?
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:48 pm

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Yeah it was a mistake.

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