NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

[Tierce]

EBWOP:
Too many avatars with white backgrounds. Why did I think JD was the one making that post? O_o
Anyway, the points stand, just change the form of address from the third person to the second.

[Rhinox]

nice omgus

[Glork]

In the event that umoms does not get quicklynched (or that he gets quicklynched as town), I fully support killing nhammen. The whole "let me find a different-bad-bullshit reason to pile onto the wagon" thing is easily the scummiest vote on here.

Buuuut umom's reaction to the pressure doesn't fit. A bit of WTFery is expected, but he's just tra-la-la-ing along like it's no big deal.

He reads like he doesn't give a shit and that (assuming it is a hohum alt) is what I'd expect of a reaction from him. What makes you expect a different one? What reaction were you expecting?

Oh, see, here my first impression was UberNinja, based on his GD posting history. That would definitely imply faked-not-giving-a-shit, becuase UberNinja cares too much, even if he'd never admit it.

[umoms]

and umoms i had a reason

Good for you. Want a cookie?

[Simenon]

Is umoms an alt or a player from another site? She's definitely not discovering mafia for the first time.
Don't read her as scum; don't get how she reacted badly to the quicklynch threat.

Only one player had actually created a wagon yet, and creating a wagon is one of the best ways to generate discussion. Now I know that I was only the 6th vote in the game, so this was quite reasonable, especially in a game this size. But I decided to ask questions anyways, because questions help too. Obviously the first vote has no way of creating a wagon, and so I can't ask her. And I think that I've usually seen the second vote tend to be on a different player from the first (note I don't have stats to back this up, and it may just be my memory), so any response would probably be of the form "it was only the second vote". So it wouldn't give much information to ask him. Thus I only asked people after the second vote.

In what universe is the third vote always, or usually, a wagon vote? Flameaxe's vote was obviously a random vote. Have you literally never seen random voting?
It looks like a bullshit way of trying to subtly casting aspersion and I still don't like it.

Unvote
Vote nhammen

[AGar]

Yeah... I was gonna say, if it was a reaction test, umoms failed.

What exactly am I supposed to be reacting to? I couldn't really give less of a shit about a page 3 lolynch wagon.

A good start might be to actually address the reasons people think you're scummy.

What the fuck is this shit?

Nhammen/Rhinox need to go.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nhammen

[Rhinox]

What the fuck is this shit?

I don't know, what the fuck is it? You didn't actually say anything about it at all.

[AGar]

Seriously, anyone who had reasons for thinking umoms was scummy... for fucks sake, die already.

Reaction was pretty much all I'd expect of town with a bullshit wagon like that jumping up.

[Rhinox]

What do you think about the point I brought up about umoms?

[JDodge]

What do you think about the point I brought up about umoms?

you brought up a point about umoms? i was under the impression that he called out your bullshit and you chalked it up to wifom

[JDodge]

also as a follow-up, agar, do you have any opinion either way about any player other than umoms, rhinox, or nhammen at this point in time?

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

10 to lynch

umoms: 8 (Staeg, iamausername, Rhinox, nhammen, redFF, Quilford, Glork, Tierce)
nhammen: 3 (JDodge, Simenon, AGar)
Thestatusquo: 2 (Untrod Tripod, Bella)
Tierce: 1 (scooby)
AGar: 1 (Primate)
Quagmire: 1 (Flameaxe)
Bella: 1 (Thestatusquo)
Rhinox: 1 (umoms)

Not Voting: 1 (Quagmire)

Current Deadline:

Sunday August 5th, 10 PM EST

[AGar]

also as a follow-up, agar, do you have any opinion either way about any player other than umoms, rhinox, or nhammen at this point in time?

Simenon and Glork fall into the leaning town bracket.
Tierce falls into the leaning anti-town bracket.

[Quagmire]

Vote Glork

for continuing to vote umoms and consciously post even while umoms was L-1. umoms is p. town. more thoughts coming

[Primate]

Unvote: Vote nhammen

[Flameaxe]

Unvote, Vote: Nhammen

A wagon I can get behind! This Agar guy is pretty okay in my book right now. Increasingly indifferent regarding maybehohum. iaun on my kinda-shitlist.

[Primate]

Unvote, Vote: Nhammen

A wagon I can get behind! This Agar guy is pretty okay in my book right now. Increasingly indifferent regarding maybehohum. iaun on my kinda-shitlist.

Can you explain a bit more about what your position on umom was and how it has changed?

[Rhinox]

What do you think about the point I brought up about umoms?

you brought up a point about umoms? i was under the impression that he called out your bullshit and you chalked it up to wifom

nah man he whined and omgus'd me without actually addressing anything. Idk where you're coming up with this wifom you think happened but I didn't chalk anything up to wifom ever.

More importantly, why are you answering for agar?

Or if you really feel the need to answer you can at least say why you think my point was bullshit. You asked me to clarify my comment which I did. Were you not interested in the answer?

[Primate]

Umom's response to what you asked re: responding to people on his wagon was ok contextually. I thought he could have brought more of a rebuttal to the relevant points on the wagon (yours, nhams), and I think it's fair you calling him on that. Calling omgus seems like an overexagerration on your part though.

[redFF]

What exactly would you like umoms to address, Rhinox? It's a page 3 lol quicklynch in a large, it's not like there's a case against him, unless you're willing to make one for him to address.

And yeah calling omgus is dumb since you didn't really have any basis to calling him scum in the first place.

vote:nhammen

[Thestatusquo]

Not only is there no reason to think Umoms is scum, but the person who is in my book most likely to be scum is hanging on the back end of that wagon.

Tierce, my comment on bellas posts were tongue and cheek, yes, but they were also an attempt to try to steer the conversation in a more productive direction. Izzy's answers to those questions mattered to me. The fact that you blew them off doesn't necessarily read as weird to me on its own, but it does sort of give the impression that you're attempting to stay in randomness. Like, a sequence of

Person A: statement, joke, etc.
Person B: Somewhat serious question with a slight hint of joke.
Person C: HAHAH QUESTION DOESN'T MATTER LETS JUST KEEP VOTING RANDOM PEOPLE.

is suspicious to me. I also don't like how aggressively you jumped on the back end of the umoms wagon with no justification for it.

Unvote, Vote: Tierce

[Quagmire]

It was anything but 'pack mentality'.

1) It's ridiculously fun.
2) It's useful.

A quicklynch threat on D1 catches players off-guard. It generates reactions that can be studied later with a couple of flips And I would

definitely

have hammered that wagon if he had been at L-1 by the time of my vote; among other things, analyzing who came after me on D2 would be gold.

Analyzing who came after you on D2 would be a big pile of shit and get you nowhere. I hope you're not actually serious.

[Quagmire]

The nhammen wagon is stupid too. What in the world has he done that's scummy?

[Quagmire]

Question for AGar. Why're you voting for nhammen?

[Quagmire]

Question for AGar. Why're you voting for nhammen?

Same question to redFF.