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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 6:31 am

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Votecount 1.05:


MortFeld (1): A Simple Plan
Infinity 324 (1): Not Fury
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Not Voting: Infinity 324, Vijarada, MortFeld

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:24 am

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Expected this game to be spammy, so I didn't participate in it initially. However, negative activity seems I will have time. I'll have something in a bit, but I doubt anything will happen in the time it takes me to do this x)
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:25 am

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UNVOTE: unvote

first of all
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:28 am

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9 posts in and have 2 reads I'm confident on:
In post 5, MortFeld wrote:
In post 4, A Simple Plan wrote:Problem is, I wouldn't want to run up an L-1 right away
Why not?
In post 7, MortFeld wrote:
In post 6, Infinity 324 wrote:In case we have a VI who quickhammers
At what point does running to someone to L-1 no longer carry this specific risk?
This interaction by Mort feels villa.
In post 9, A Simple Plan wrote:When we're actually developing reads and figuring things out. If we RVS and wind up with a quickhammer, town would shoot the hammer 9 out of 10 times, and I don't want a town lolhammer losing us the game.

Pedit: so we're all in agreement then, it's Mortfeld?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:34 am

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In post 12, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 7, MortFeld wrote:
In post 6, Infinity 324 wrote:In case we have a VI who quickhammers
At what point does running to someone to L-1 no longer carry this specific risk?
When we're ready for a lynch
Considering this entire game is pretty much decided day 1, being ready for a lynch is an informed decision on the scum side of things. The risk is always present in running someone to L-1. Being ready or not doesn't mean shit.
In post 14, Infinity 324 wrote:Why would you want to vote yourself in RVS?
Ah, and this post asking a question rather than having an suspicion for Virj asking if we could vote ourselves. Feel like you're trying to participate, but you're scum and trying not to tip your hand.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:35 am

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[quote="In post 18, Infinity 324"]Why don't you believe his answer?

The fact that tenshii and ASP are both agreeing with me on everything so far is a little worrying. One is probably scum.[/
quote]

LOL!! I scum read both of them and this post screams that he and ASP are scum. Infinity is setting up ASP for a bus and I was going to say that conservative play indicates Infinity is likely GF.

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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 7:39 am

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Page 1 tone reading Virj as town.

Ok, so here's the game:

Virj, Mort = Town
ASP = goon (?) idk what the role is
Infinity = Godfather

Haven't read past post 20, but I'm going to do some work. Be back in a bit :)
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 10:59 am

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I'll vote inf if we have to get a right now lynch
VOTE: Infinity
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 12:00 pm

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I'm feeling pretty good about my reads and began to skim later posts, but there was a swarm of references and shit that I didn't want to go through. I am pleased with my page 1 reads and would like opinions from the other members of town and then also from the members of the mafia.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 3:46 pm

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In post 104, Not Fury wrote:Considering this entire game is pretty much decided day 1, being ready for a lynch is an informed decision on the scum side of things. The risk is always present in running someone to L-1. Being ready or not doesn't mean shit.
Uh

Of course it always carries that risk but the benefits outweigh the risk, by definition, when we're ready for a lynch.

I'm pretty sure this is just a phrasing issue, since I don't think you disagree that we lynch when we're ready to...
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 4:19 pm

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In post 104, Not Fury wrote:Ah, and this post asking a question rather than having an suspicion for Virj asking if we could vote ourselves. Feel like you're trying to participate, but you're scum and trying not to tip your hand.
I asked a question and didn't have a suspicion...because I had a question and not a suspicion. I didn't think it was scummy inherently, I just wanted to know why he did it. Maybe if he responded badly I'd find it suspicious, but yeah.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 4:47 pm

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Ok I had this post half-written on my comp so yeah.
In post 91, MortFeld wrote: Extremely surface level. While I am annoyed at the fact that seemingly everyone but me conflates self voting and threatening to self vote, I don't scumread it. I do feel like this is a bit of a hokey explanation for a read though.
I agree but I don't think it's scummy.
In post 61, A Simple Plan wrote: In terms of Mort, like I previously said, a lot of his posts were nothing more than fancy busy-work.
Seems to be a flavor of the game accusation.
I thought ASP was the one who brought it up in the first place?
In post 61, A Simple Plan wrote: Examples include (just listing off responses to other posts)
The implication here is that my will
1. not help other people sort me and
2. not help other people sort other people

i.e. that it is just a random collection of responses with no motion toward game solving. I really disagree with this and I really hate how flippantly he reduced the post to 'useless collection of responses'.
I don't see how that post will help gamesolve and I kind of agree with him. Especially since you said specifically that the post wasn't for everyone else to understand.
In post 61, A Simple Plan wrote: and after my post commenting on it, , specifically the first bullet, "I think I was talking about"... does he not even know what he was talking about? That further suggest to me that he was saying things to look active and engaged rather than to actually gain anything from what he was offering.
Or I often forget my specific thought processes when I have long stretches of time between posting and reading next. This is scummy because?
Again, bad argument but not scummy
In post 61, A Simple Plan wrote: Yknow what, sure.

VOTE: MortFeld
Oh, what the hell! Why don't I just vote my scumread. Why not!
That's
what we're supposed to do.[/quote]

Explain more what the problem is with this. It feels to me like ASP convinced himself more than he voted you because it what he's "supposed" to do.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 4:48 pm

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In post 107, Vijarada wrote:I'll vote inf if we have to get a right now lynch
VOTE: Infinity
Talk to me. I'm feeling mort and not fury as scum.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:20 pm

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I really want to go through the arguments this game, but no one quoted shit and instead just hyperlinked everything ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Can someone tell me if Infinity's last posts contradicted anything he has said earlier? Also, wouldn't Tenshii + Virj pushing on you (now me pushing on you after replacing in) lead you to conclude that Virj and I are scum team?

You don't consider that at all :O
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:22 pm

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Nvm, just read page 3 and saw Tenshii pushing Infinity. So, my slot has been pressuring him already. Not sure I'd expect anything to change in that case due to change in pressure.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 113, Not Fury wrote:Can someone tell me if Infinity's last posts contradicted anything he has said earlier? Also, wouldn't Tenshii + Virj pushing on you (now me pushing on you after replacing in) lead you to conclude that Virj and I are scum team?

You don't consider that at all :O
No because I don't think scum are more or less likely to push the same person.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:28 pm

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In post 82, A Simple Plan wrote:Which is crap because I haven't been prodded a single time.

@Tenshii, re: 77: how do you come to that conclusion?

@Vij, re: 78: what you're saying is, you're hedging on Inf, and are against voting Mort?

@Inf, re: 79: are those questions helping at all?
In post 90, Infinity 324 wrote:I like that post though, and I'm feeling ASP for town, so tenative PoE scum of tenshii and mortfeld.
Hmmm, just spent a few minutes looking for any mention of Tenshiii or whatever and the reason for scum reading me is POE

Also, you went scum lean to town lean on ASP for the post above with no explanation.

Angry Fury being forced to actually go past page 1. :evil: :evil: :evil:

:facepalm:

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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:29 pm

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On the off-chance you're town (we're talking less than the odds of me having a heart attack and spontaneously combusting at the same time), shoot ASP.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:30 pm

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But, I already know you're GF ^_^
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:30 pm

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I just checked your join date, that might affect my read on you

Do you have specific reasons for vij/mort town or is it just PoE?

PEdit: yeah the reason for the scumread is PoE. And?

I'll try to find the posts that made me townread ASP but it's not just that one.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:31 pm

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In post 117, Not Fury wrote:we're talking less than the odds of me having a heart attack and spontaneously combusting at the same time
Doesn't look too good for you, then.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:33 pm

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In post 44, A Simple Plan wrote:
In post 34, Infinity 324 wrote:Vij, why didn't you say that it was a joke in . ASP, what's your read on vij?
I'm trying to work that one out. Gut lean town, but I want an answer to my 32. "I don't want to die here as scum..." is a very interesting way of phrasing things. I don't want to think this game will come down to a scumslip like that, but I want to know what the hell was meant by it.

I could go for a Mort lynch. Recent posts look more like busy-work than actual scumhunting. And re: 37, yeah you. Forgot your name.
In post 61, A Simple Plan wrote:
In post 60, Tenshii wrote:@ASP

Why do you have Vij as "gut lean town" and why would you be willing to lynch Mort?
As much as I disagree with any town having a mindset of "maybe I should self-vote", my gut tells me that scum wouldn't be that ballsy in a vengeful. And whether it was preconceived or not, it got the game moving and gave us something to talk about. I may not agree with the mechanic behind it, but I don't think scum would've made such a move.

In terms of Mort, like I previously said, a lot of his posts were nothing more than fancy busy-work. Examples include (just listing off responses to other posts), (asking a question and then offering his own answer to it), and after my post commenting on it, , specifically the first bullet, "I think I was talking about"... does he not even know what he was talking about? That further suggest to me that he was saying things to look active and engaged rather than to actually gain anything from what he was offering.

Yknow what, sure.

VOTE: MortFeld
In post 82, A Simple Plan wrote:Which is crap because I haven't been prodded a single time.

@Tenshii, re: 77: how do you come to that conclusion?

@Vij, re: 78: what you're saying is, you're hedging on Inf, and are against voting Mort?

@Inf, re: 79: are those questions helping at all?
The tone here is what made me townlean ASP
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:34 pm

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Part of it is because I've seen scum!ASP before and he was pretty obivous scum
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:34 pm

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I've actually been playing mafia since before your join date :o
Vij is lock town via tone
Mort seems town in his reasoning and tone.

ASP was lock scum from his first post imo and I found you scummy for the posts I have above.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon May 29, 2017 5:35 pm

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In post 122, Infinity 324 wrote:Part of it is because I've seen scum!ASP before and he was pretty obivous scum
He's stupidly obv scum this game.

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