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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:33 pm

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Here's the count in here as well: (expired on 2023-04-01 06:32:30)
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:37 am

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:41 am

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Ok, originally my plan, if anyone outside of my three suspects got eliminated, was to spend a little time thinking about which of my three suspects to yeet, then Just Do It. I certainly wasn’t planning on using the whole 5 days. And I don’t know how long I’ll need now, but I’ll certainly need to take a bit more time to consider things. The wait will be torture for everyone else, but :shrug:
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:50 am

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I keep thinking "Why isn't anything happening in the game" "Oh..."
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:09 am

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Random thoughts
- 3 mafia out of 6? That's crazy, c'mon. Should be able to nab one.
- Maybe it's the lemon? I've been townreading him because 1. every now and then he comes up with a clever-looking reason to push someone such as the Arko E-2 case, 2. he started my wagon ;3, 3. he seems chill. But it hasn't always been this way, and some of his posts do actually give me scumpings - for example, the bits where he claims he's sheeping me.
- Bella seems a bit more decisive than usual? Does that mean she is scum?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:38 am

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I... I can't quote posts from the thread anymore because it's locked?! :] :] :] :igmeou:
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:28 am

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If Vanders is town maybe he is right that my reads are wrong
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:35 am

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I'm tinfoiling absolutely everyone and everything
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:00 am

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viewtopic.php?p=13702656#p13702656
Vox: "Arghhh but then the thing that’s gnawing at me is I’m ALSO not sure why Ranger supported the vanders wagon, as town or scum that doesn’t make sense from Ranger if vanders is town. Unless it’s both of them are scum together and Ranger just got a bit eager and derailed his own partners wagon by offering support for it??"
She didn't _really_, though. Some of the posts where she's more positive about him are:

viewtopic.php?p=13699268#p13699268
Ranger: "I'll vote Vander if there's no other option. However, his wrong scumread is a threat. If the game comes down to a heaven vote and he advocates for my death there, we lose because I'm town."
viewtopic.php?p=13699435#p13699435
Ranger: "I firmly believe {Vanderscamp, Oclaxian Empire, AurorusVox, Doctor Drew} contains 2-3 scum (probably two, with Bloodb0t as the third).

If Vanderscamp is town (my current theory), it's because the scum believe Vander in heaven is +scum."
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:08 am

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In post 105, Aisa wrote: I... I can't quote posts from the thread anymore because it's locked?! :] :] :] :igmeou:
Sorry, I don't know if there's a way around this.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:20 am

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Oh wow, just checked out a Bella towngame and a Bella scumgame and she doesn't have an activity tell. Woah. Huh. Glad I checked, I guess. I'm always impressed with people who can do that.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:21 am

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Ahh thanks furtive it's ok
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:56 am

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I wonder if I'm gonna get a stronger scumread than the lemon, but seriously considering yeeting that slot
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:27 am

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Ok Aisa. For real this time, no making throwaway comments implying you're starting to scumread people, that turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy as we've seen!
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:27 am

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I'm gonna townbin Aureal again and continue from there tomorrow.

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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:29 am

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{Vanders, Bella, Ranger, Enchant, AurorusVox} three scum in there? crazy
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:48 am

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Vanders town?? hmmm??
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:31 am

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In post 107, Aisa wrote: I'm tinfoiling absolutely everyone and everything
My thoughts are not magically any clearer today. I looked at a few ISOs and scrolled through the game a bit last night, and no-one was super obviously scummy. I'd scroll through a couple pages and think "hmm this player seems a bit suspicious" then skim something else and think "hmm actually maybe this player is town". It felt hard to get myself to completely believe in any read or interpretation of the gamestate.

In short... I'm confused and a little paralysed. But I'll try again tonight! At this point, to get past the paralysis I'm hoping to come up with a couple simple principles or observations that can help me make a choice that is slightly >rand. I don't think I'll get to a point where I have very confident reads for this game again, but that's ok.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:50 am

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Maybe this plan ^ just ends up looking like
1. Townread Aureal + someone else
2. Yet someone nearly at random from the other 4.

I feel a bit better about townreading Aureal at the moment than just about any hypothesis I’ve tried entertaining at the moment - I’ve tried a lot of “maybe X is scum with Y and they are pushing townie Z” but none of these more complicated schemes feel like they actually have any chance of being right.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:25 am

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It's figure-out-this-game hour once more! <3

My objectives are to:
1. not stress, escape today without worrying too much
2. maybe make a little progress
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:33 am

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Immediately wondering if R is scum and if I haven't been scumsiding all game :D
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:35 am

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I like how most players in this game have different initials, so I can go B or R or E or V. Or Aureal or AurorusVox.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:46 am

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I just did a joint ISO of Vanders and Aureal to figure out which one is townier. Bad plan in hindsight: I was always going to read them and think they were both town. As of right now, I'm going to have to give Vanders a townread. But once I finish reading the last few posts in this ISO, I'm going to contrast Vanders with someone else.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:47 am

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Also if he is town I have been
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scumsiding all game so far hahaha
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:51 am

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I looove how every post from Vanders basically has a new idea in it. I hope this bodes well for his chances of being town. Though if Aureal and Vanders are both town, then this means entertaining some scumteams who are either... somewhat unlikely (e.g. can Ranger and OE be scum together? Ranger and Vox, as per Aureal's post?) or just haven't done that much all game (Enchant/OE + Bella + Vox??). I don't think these scumteams are completely impossible, but something to ponder.

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