Mini 1401 - Game over!
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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Setup:
Mafia Traitor
Mafia 1x Bulletproof Goon
Mafia goon
Town Mason
Town Mason
Odd Night Vig
Joat (1x Gunsmith, 1x Roleblock, 1x Vigilante)
6 Vanilla Town
So I really liked snifit's 1337 setup and this one was loosely inspired by that one. The Odd Night Vig and JoaT NKs were intended to create the illusion of an SK. The mason Gunsmith shot was intended to add to that too whilst being able to clear a vig claim. The mafia having only a BP and a goon in the group at first was to add to that illusion for the scumteam too. Although Slandaar ended up joining the QT at the end of N1 anyways .
I wanted the masons for a subversion of knowledge element that masons/ICs bring (alongside the illusion of an SK and the scumteam not knowing about the Traitor).
Mason/Mason/OddVig/JoaT were all fairly confirmable roles since the masons can claim relatively safely and the Vig/JoaT have an NK to 'prove' themselves. Masons and Vig shots don't gel super well (obviously), ESPECIALLY with a BP scum out there to eliminate 1/3 of the good Vig targets. The JoaT was intended to round out that slightly conflicting power with an RB (strong because it cant affect the masons, or even the Odd Vig on N2), a 1 shot investigate, and a 3rd way for the town to kill. I felt the extra vig shot was important because vig shots are only really effective when you can get 2 successful ones to achieve odds. (Or 1 and a block). So the extra vig shot gave 3ish potential vig shots so that the town could put itself at odds fairly reliably and get the full benefit of a vig entity despite the scum having a counter to it.
Originally I wanted the mafia goon to be a rolecop and one of the masons to ALSO be an odd night watcher. I also had the JoaT's RB as a 1xCommute originally.
The Mason/Watcher was deemed fairly non normal in review and turned to a regular mason. Also axed the Rolecop for balance at that point. But then it was decided the town was a little underpowered since mason/odd vig/(commute/gs/vig shot) didn't really flow together very well, so the commute was swapped for an RB that could also help control evens/odds and provided a moderately powerful shot without affecting any other town roles negatively. I was originally tickled by the benefit that the mafia rolecop role could get from finding the traitor for the mafia team before he would join the QT.
EDIT: Dead QT. http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/vEyTJYjCfEkw
Mason QT. http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fDQhmHXW4iEu9
Scum QT. http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fSiJjqNCZL75d-
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SaintKerrigan Brings Out The Flavour
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AngryPidgeon Glenn Peck
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Malakittens Survivor
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Wow. I really thought there was going to be an SK.
Nice job guys <3
Huntress and I's QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fDQhmHXW4iEu9-
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Malakittens Survivor
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d3x Mafia Scum
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Based on the Scum QT, I think he knew he was Scum and what the team was. He talks about bussing Cobman.-
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d3x Mafia Scum
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Was it obv to anyone else that Kthx was the Vig trying to draw a FakeClaim during the MCs?-
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Malakittens Survivor
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SaintKerrigan Brings Out The Flavour
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In post 1012, d3x wrote:Was it obv to anyone else that Kthx was the Vig trying to draw a FakeClaim during the MCs?
I kinda sorta figured it out sometime before he claimed.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Malakittens Survivor
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Huntress Mafia Scum
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Thanks for an interesting game AP.
So we did have rival scum wagons on Day one; even though two of the scum didn't know it at the time!
I thought Kthx was soft-claiming vig in post 540 but as scum or possibly SK. I was pretty sure at that point that it was him who shot me.
Was Conman's lynch the trigger for Slandaar to join up with Qwints?.-
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Kthxbye Mafia Scum
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In post 998, d3x wrote:And the ass kissing line staaaaaaaaaarts... here!
Gg all! Well played. Thx for believing in me Kthx.
I even told AP in my pm that I was gonna trust in my homey. LolIf you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Kthxbye Mafia Scum
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In post 1012, d3x wrote:Was it obv to anyone else that Kthx was the Vig trying to draw a FakeClaim during the MCs?
Painfully so...If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Kthxbye Mafia Scum
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qwints Mafia Scum
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That was truly, truly awful. I handled conman's play quite poorly. I felt like the self-vote followed by voting me was scum self-claiming then claiming his partner.
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fSiJjqNCZL75d-
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havingfitz Survivor
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Cool...I was on the right track with all three scum.
Sucked to be killed N1.
Thanks for modding AP.
Good job town on the win.
@qwints...from the scum QT, what game did I I replace out of after 5 posts? And I think I do just fine under pressure tyvm.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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qwints Mafia Scum
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