Mini 1500:Narnia- The Lion,the Witch,and the Wardrobe Mafia

[Garmr]

the hearing who skelda tracked and town is over powered bit.

[RachMarie]

I want to hear who skelda tracked as well.

I really thought he (PB) was fake claiming especially with so much PR out there

Lets not get in a big hurry here to lynch because I think we may be in LYLO have to double check the lynches again.

[RachMarie]

yep we only have lynched Hermy so that means most likely there are 2 scum left which means we are in LYLO

[ArcAngel9]

VCA is coming up!!!

[Skelda]

I tracked Rach_Marie, nothing. Bah.

So basically, there can't be this many PRs. Which means, from my perspective, that Rach_Marie is still scum. If she were town, I'd expect her to think that I was scum. But I think it's going to come down to deciding whether also I'm scum or Rach is, or we have scum PRs.

I think we have an smarg/Rach team, though I am less certain on the smarg spot since I tracked smarg as doing nothing, but then again I tracked Rach doing nothing as well. Also, sorry I wasn't here sooner, I've been VLA.

[RachMarie]

umm I already did my one and only power

I controlled a vote and it was a one shot. Im basically now a glorified VT.

I am beginning to wonder about you Skelda.... After all tracker is a role that works for both town and scum.

[ArcAngel9]

I appreciate each one's patience. the flavor now is updated. Please read through it when you get chance. Its totally worth if you have been following since the beginning.

VOTECOUNT 5.1

(1)

RachMarie

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(1)

smargaret

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(0)

Garmr

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(0)

killerjester

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(0)

Skelda

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(3) Not Voting

- Rachmarie, Smargaret, Garmr, killerjester, Skelda

With 5 alive, it takes 3 for a lynch and 3 for no lynch!!
Day 5 ends on 2nd DEC, 2013 19:59 hrs (Indian time)

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-12-02 19:59:00)

[ArcAngel9]

smargaret and killerjester have been prodded

[Garmr]

I appreciate each one's patience. the flavor now is updated. Please read through it when you get chance. Its totally worth if you have been following since the beginning.

VOTECOUNT 5.1(1) [b

RachMarie[/b] -
(1)

smargaret

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(0)

Garmr

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(0)

killerjester

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(0)

Skelda

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(3) Not Voting

- Rachmarie, Smargaret, Garmr, killerjester, Skelda

With 5 alive, it takes 3 for a lynch and 3 for no lynch!!
Day 5 ends on 2nd DEC, 2013 19:59 hrs (Indian time)

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-12-02 19:59:00)

Lol why are they already voted. Mods been copy and pasting previous vote counts I suspect .

@Skelda
you tracked both slots as doing nothing and you suspect both of them what made you change your mind since yesterday. I thought my claim was most suspicious to you.

Well, of all of the claims, I find Garmr's and Peace's the most suspicious just based on the claims they had. There also do seem to be a lot of PRy things going on, so Peace is really looking like scum on all fronts. I'm actually leaning towards believing smargaret, since why would scum claim Miller at this point?

VOTE: Peace. That looks good to me.

Lol you also believe Smarg may be town because of her claim yet today she is suspect. I thought you would want to lynch a vt claim like KJ or I.

VOTE: Skelda

[smargaret]

Garmr, it's lylo. You need to unvote - but I agree. If Skelda tracked us both as doing nothing, then either scum has one pr in Hermy (which is highly doubtful given just the flips on the townside) or Skelda's lying. The latter is much more likely.

[Garmr]

UNVOTE: unvote Yep wasn't really think that through.

[Garmr]

UNVOTE: skelda
I mean

[killerjester]

Is there a big difference in lynching smarg first? I see the points against Skelda but I'm much more confident that smarg HAS to be scum.

[RachMarie]

I am fairly confident of that too, but not willing to rush to vote here til we have fully discussed things. I do not want to see a scum bang bang and town lose.

[Garmr]

Well it's really skelda's role that supicious but so far

Me: smarg/skelda
Rachmarie: reads unknown
Killer jester: Smarg/rachmarie (Could of changed but meh.)
Skelda: Smarg/rachmarie
smarg: reads unknown but seems suspicious of Skelda


What I'm more concerned about at the moment Skelda's end of day play with peace and that intent to hammer.

[Garmr]

ebwop(Muddle up my post by speed typing it.)
Well it's really skelda's role that supicious but so far what I'm more concerned about at the moment is Skelda's end of day play with peace and that intent to hammer.

Also everyones reads so far

Me: smarg/skelda
Rachmarie: reads unknown
Killer jester: Smarg/rachmarie (Could of changed but meh.)
Skelda: Smarg/rachmarie
smarg: reads unknown but seems suspicious of Skelda

[Skelda]

Look, if I were scum I would have just said that Rach did something and I would have gotten an easy lynch, but as it stands I feel like something weird has to be going on. It doesn't make any sense that Rach did nothing to me. I really don't know what to think. I don't like that quickvote for me, though, Garmr.

So, let's look at who is left. We've got smargaret, Rach, Garmr, KJ, and myself. I've investigated both smarg and Rach and gotten them doing nothing. Is it possible the scum had an x-shot role and smarg/Garmr had it and didn't use it on the Night I investigated him/her and Rach was the 1-shot scum Votestealer? I'm not sure if that'd be balanced still, but its the only thing I can think of unless Garmr and KJ are scum together, which still doesn't make sense since I tracked Garmr doing nothing earlier.

[Garmr]

@skelda
The only other situations were your town I can think of with what your telling me skelda is mafia have a ninja or mafia have a passive role like encryptor and if anyone you tracked in the past day was scum could have switched up and done the kill last night or you could of missed who made the kills entirely. Now that I think about it gives allot of wifom anaylising the tracker reports kinda like night kills.

[killerjester]

Yea Skelda is pretty towny with those last few posts. Let's axe smarg, we all seem to agree on her.

[Garmr]

Killer can I ask why you didn't vote smarg in post 1018 it seemed like you were leaning towards it?

[killerjester]

It's lylo bro.

[killerjester]

I'll vote when I'm good and ready.

[RachMarie]

and that makes me feel pretty good about KJ

right now we should not vote til we are all clear on the discussion phase because it is LYLO.


Garmr Why in such a big hurry?


Skelda
I was not a vote stealer I was a one shot vote controller, I could have cast a vote for smarg on herself even if I chose to do that. My focus though was on preventing someone I felt was scum from voting, not on using her vote for someone else or even on herself.

Based on the other PRs, I would say the fact that my role is rather swingy and can be a negative utility role for town makes some sense in balancing, like in the game where I was a town ascetic.

I am definitely in favor of smarg who I have all along thought was scum, however I also want to figure out who the other scum is. And I want to be sure town has the time to make sure it happens that we get all the info we can at this point because it is LYLO.

[smargaret]

Garmr, didn't we already go over how you don't vote in LyLo today? And KJ redirecting when it looked like there was some momentum headed for Skelda doesn't look good if Skelda is scum.

The only way that two protective roles makes sense is if you have something holding town back and some serious power on the scum side. Rach's vote steal is swingy if it is town-controlled; but swingy isn't the same as negative utility. It could just as well be serious power behind town. The only way that doc and jk makes sense is if there is actually a miller. And nobody's responding to the fact that a scumteam where nobody has any night actions (except Hermy's JOAT) makes zero sense with the town power lineup.

[Garmr]

I'm not in a hurry what I was getting at is I felt like killer jester post 1018 felt like it was pushing others to vote smarg with out voting himself. But like you guys said it's lylo so I guess the rules changed and I have a habit of fucking it up in lylo. Out of the 3 times I lost as town 2 were in lylo and the only time I won as town was when I was lynched day 2. So right now I'm pretty nervous.

Garmr, didn't we already go over how you don't vote in LyLo today? And KJ redirecting when it looked like there was some momentum headed for Skelda doesn't look good if Skelda is scum.

The only way that two protective roles makes sense is if you have something holding town back and some serious power on the scum side. Rach's vote steal is swingy if it is town-controlled; but swingy isn't the same as negative utility. It could just as well be serious power behind town. The only way that doc and jk makes sense is if there is actually a miller. And nobody's responding to the fact that a scumteam where nobody has any night actions (except Hermy's JOAT) makes zero sense with the town power lineup.

How is miller balancing stuff out when the cop was one shot.