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[LlamaFluff]

Ranmaru - Vanilla Townie - Died Night Five

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch
Deadline for Day Six is December 14th, 8PM PST

[Hoopla]

Hello.

[Ranmaru]

Go town. Make me proud!

[Carbondioxide]

So... 50/50 chance. I think it's Hoopla - but will withhold from voting for obvious reasons.

[Elias_the_thief]

Why do you think its Hoopla exactly? I agree but I don't remember you ever expressing suspicion of Hoopla until now.

[Hoopla]

Why do you think its Hoopla exactly? I agree but I don't remember you ever expressing suspicion of Hoopla until now.

It's pretty clear Carbon was nurdling his opinion on me just before we no-lynched yesterday. He was clearly shaping for this combination of players in lylo given you've only ever been interested in lynching me.

Think for a second why you've been left alive for today.

This is assuming you aren't the scum, though.

[Carbondioxide]

Why do you think its Hoopla exactly? I agree but I don't remember you ever expressing suspicion of Hoopla until now.

It's pretty clear Carbon was nurdling his opinion on me just before we no-lynched yesterday. He was clearly shaping for this combination of players in lylo given you've only ever been interested in lynching me.

Think for a second why you've been left alive for today.

This is assuming you aren't the scum, though.

Just plain wrong and a massive mis-represntation Hoopla. I've had you in the top two of my 'lynch-list' for nearly a month now. I'm doing this on my tablet so can't hyperlink these easily but read my posts: #893; #931; & #999. The last is even a vote on Hoopla in the lead-up to the Kingdom mislynch. Hardly "nurdling" - whatever that means.

Hoopla - for this super-experienced, game-running Mod I'm not sure this 'playing dumb' cap fits. All the "should we no lynch?" and "assuming you aren't the scum, though" - it doesn't fit. I'm even more convinced that you're the scum now.

[Hoopla]

I'm not really playing dumb. If you think this is all an elaborate ruse, you're assigning quite a lot of credit to my ability. If so, doesn't it stand to reason that with all this ability, I could easily concoct an actual good scum strategy that won't get me lynched today.

[Elias_the_thief]

It does give me pause that I'm still alive with Hoopla if Hoopla is scum...I don't make any sense to bring along to the final three. At the same time, the only reason I haven't focused on Hoopla lynch earlier is the argument that he couldn't survive 3p LYLO. If I didn't lynch Hoopla and lost I would never forgive myself.

Carbon: It makes me feel better that you've been willing to lynch Hoopla for a while, but I want to know more of why. You never list a particularly strong reason, and you haven't seemed all that interested in actually getting Hoopla lynched (despite her place on your "lynch list") until you arrived in this situation with me and her.

[Carbondioxide]

Obviously the "why would Hoopla leave me alive" stuff is totally wifom. Killing Ranmaru makes me look nicely scummy after my push on him but again, wifom.

I've been suspicious of Hoopla since Day1 (go back and check) and as for reasons, rather than give more fuel to Hoopla's "he would say that now... he planned for this Lylo" fire, read my posts: #680 #705.

Basically the only time I haven't been pretty sure of scum-Hoopla was when I got distracted by: a) McStab b) Ranmaru c) my own over thinking!

Hoopla, I'm that convinced it's you, consider this intent to vote you. Unless you have a stellar argument that it's Elias I'm going to vote you and if - as you claim to suspect - it might still be Elias, he might hammer you.

[LlamaFluff]

Everypony has been prodded.

[Carbondioxide]

Everypony has been prodded.

This is so ridiculous its funny.

VOTE: Hoopla

[Hoopla]

Well, I'm town.

So, we'll wait and see if Elias hammers.

[Elias_the_thief]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

VOTE: Hoopla

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Hoopla (2) - Carbondioxide, Elias_the_theif

Not Voting (1) - Hoopla

Hoopla - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day Six
Carbondioxide - Vanilla Townie - Endgamed

Elias_the_thief - Mafia Encryptor - Survived

Mafia wins

[LlamaFluff]

Game was very simple in setup, if town got a correct save, they got an extra lynch. To counter scum had cheeky daytalk and a one shot hunt for the doctor that was active (11% hit doc, 11% false no role on nurse, 78% true VT). Think it may have been slight scum skewed (tracker add was topic of debate) but really it came down to the doctor being able to have a correct save, which N1 they targeted Ranmaru, every other night the death was unstoppable (on doc, on nurse).

Mafia can post the QT if they want.

[AngryPidgeon]

Damn, I thought it was CO2. /stalking other games.

[KingdomAces]

I really don't have much to say right now that wasn't posted in my personal QT.

Ranmaru, I'm sorry that I got in that wall war. Despite everything, I couldn't shake the feeling that it was town on town. It seemed like you were ignoring large portions of my posts, and continually asking the same questions which I would answer the same way, and that angered me enough that I forgot about Elias.

In other news, maybe I should trust my gut a bit more, since I was actually correct about Elias the whole time. Sorry I couldn't be more convincing.

[BT]

... I'm legitimately surprised. Elias was a shady figure for most of the game, but D1-D2 looked pretty incriminating for Hoopla. I would have lynched wrong in this LYLO too.

Damn, I thought it was CO2. /stalking other games.

CO2 was obvtown from page 1.

[borkjerfkin]

Meh, sorry for not being useful. I didn't have the time or inclination to read the whole thread and just hoped that the scummier looking of the two wagons on the day I replaced in was the scum.

[Elias_the_thief]

Well I'm legitimately surprised I was able to ride my McStab bus all the way to the end. That bus was SLOPPY, but I guess I'm not complaining. Everyone came off pretty bad on that lynch. Other than that my strategy was stay townier than Hoopla and make calculated NK's.

Kudos to BT for being almost spot on in his early day suspects. I'm glad no one noticed you died shortly after implicating both McStab and I.

[Elias_the_thief]

... I'm legitimately surprised. Elias was a shady figure for most of the game, but D1-D2 looked pretty incriminating for Hoopla.
CO2 was obvtown from page 1.

I think once I got back into the game I seemed pretty town, but I admit my play through D2-D3 was pretty sketch. I would've lynched me.

[Elias_the_thief]

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/NwGqRfqNy48
Pretty boring, honestly

[KingdomAces]

Was I really that easy of a mislynch D1? I knew I was playing badly, but I didn't think I was considered that poorly.

I did realize that you were the common factor between BT's and July's final reads and said so in my personal, but the last time I tried to look at NK analysis I got completely shut down. Hopefully I'll improve eventually.

Also, thanks for the game Llama. It seemed balanced from my perspective, and it was modded well. Sorry for bugging you during the game.

[BT]

Kudos to BT for being almost spot on in his early day suspects. I'm glad no one noticed you died shortly after implicating both McStab and I.

Well, consider that an objective scumteam would've probably killed me anyway. The only other contender was Dunham, if only for the clear.

Funny thing about my early reads -- they're usually wrong. I tend to barely revisit them as a result.

Was I really that easy of a mislynch D1? I knew I was playing badly, but I didn't think I was considered that poorly.

From what I remember, you were never a real lynch choice for D1. Bigger fish to fry.