Open 318: By Nomination Only (Game Over)

[Rory the Roman]

VOTE: Roman

trust me here like you trusted me on PZ (who I made a very good case on in my mind whilst on holiday heer in Austria and am slightly dissapointed that it is now obsolete)

well done for eliminating muffin, he was the best lynch even though we were all obvtown

I return from holiday on saturday. Forgetting that I'm here will cause... consequences when I return.
The nerve the scumteam have for putting me up too. It only confirms mz suspicions that I'm a threat to them and my reads are correct.

Ok. YOU ARE WRONG.

I hope that message came accross. Read why I posted that I would lynch Zito day 2. You got a scumread on my day 1 and day 2 you assumed I was hardline bussing because that's the only way you can get your theories together. Just check again what made me find out Zito and know that you weren't the only one right.

So yes, you are pissing me off for hardcore tunneling on your scumread day one for which you need a frankly amazingly hard bus to justify. Even more, the only point in favor of that bus that you have is that our second head unvoted at the point where the Zito lynch was already inevitable (after I pushed the wagon for day 2 and 3), coming with some theory that this would make the lynch of zito less likely: there was no counterwagon, I had been in favor of it and did more then enough to make that very lynch damned likely.

TL;DR: YOU ARE WRONG.

[Rory the Roman]

And for the vote: Fenchurch votes Malpa. Malpa votes Molla. Both heads agree on Molla, and so does Vitamin. Vitamin sounded honest in its defense against the paranoid CES, who knows him well. Vitamins point about Malpa almost making Zito a viable counterwagon day 1 is more then a slight towntell. This leaves Fenchurch and Molla. And it seems to fit so well.

vote BBmolla

[Rory the Roman]

That's L-1, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I won't have any problem with a hammer either. So Fenchurch, it's your last shot to make us doubt our reads.

[Rory the Roman]

^All Mykonian. I still wanted to keep pressure on Mal, but whatever. Pretend we have two votes, one on mal and one on BB.

-Nexus

[Rory the Roman]

Woo Hydra Schizophrenia~

Sorry guys, this million post won't happen again

-N

[Equinox]

Vote Count 5.01

BBmolla (3) - VitaminR, malpascp, Rory the Roman

Rory the Roman (1) - Twistedspoon
malpascp (1) - Fenchurch

Not Voting (2) - BBmolla, Quilford

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

The deadline is Thursday, August 18, 2011, at 11:00 AM EDT (UTC-4).[/area]

Mod Notes

Twistedspoon is V/LA until August 12.

[Quilford]

VOTE: Fenchurch

[BBmolla]

Rory is stuck tunneling me. Which sucks. Considering there are two scum and I'm neither of them. Thank god for MLs.

However, I don't think Rory is the lynch for today. I'm mainly looking at a possible scum partner of his.

And screw it...

VOTE: malpa

I didn't like the way he hammered zMuffin, and I think he's been pretty obv-scum all game. I think Zito could have easily been bussing him, because the arguments against him were obvious.

This jumped out at me, mainly because I had a null read on Fen, and this just struck me as really scummy.

This post makes no sense as a townie. However, it makes sense as a Rory/Vitamin scumpartner. They are attempting to distance themself from one of them so that it doesn't appear all the scum is on the same wagon.

Also, Malp is an easy target for this goal. Fen doesn't even cite much reasoning except "he's been pretty obv-scum all game." Also, this leads me to conclude that Malp is probably town.

I think lynching Fen would provide a clear route to Rory/Vitamin as a scum partner and could win us the game.

However, if I am lynched, so be it. I'm positive you guys as a town can figure out who the mafia is, especially with players like Quilford and Twisted.

Fenchurch is the smartest lynch today, and if you can't see that, you're blindly following the scum.
VOTE: Fenchurch

[Quilford]

That post is cute but

holy shit

it makes me want to lynch you

[BBmolla]

That post is cute but

holy shit

it makes me want to lynch you

Why? I think Fen makes sense in both Rory/Fen scumteam and Vit/Fen scumteam so I think we'd be best off lynching her.

Why did you vote her?

[Quilford]

I voted her because of her interactions with Papa Zito.

Your post contains copious amounts of terrible and begs me to switch my vote to you. It has all the appeals. ALL of them.

[Fenchurch]

Also, Malp is an easy target for this goal. Fen doesn't even cite much reasoning except "he's been pretty obv-scum all game." Also, this leads me to conclude that Malp is probably town.

Let's get this clear, malpa isn't just an "easy target". I'm voting him because he's scum. His play matches his mafia-game way more than his town-game. Even despite misunderstandings, he normally shows much more inquisitiveness and investment in the game than he has here. He's done no scumhunting and has joined whoever the most popular wagon is every day - besides his vote on CES, which I really don't think is a towntell. Everyone is just giving him a lot of leeway because of the language difference.

And Zito's vote on malpa reads strongly like a bus to me.

I'm not willing to hammer BB so soon. I think him and Copper have been much less scummy as malpa or Rory.

[Quilford]

Guys.

We still really need to lynch Fenchurch.

[Quilford]

Rory if you think it's a Fench/BB team you should vote Fench.

[Fenchurch]

Quilford, why do you think I'm scum? I feel I've addressed every point that's been raised against me. I can't help the fact that I wasn't convinced as quickly by the case on Zito as other people were. Do you disagree with the questions I was asking at the time?

[Twistedspoon]

That post is cute but

holy shit

it makes me want to lynch you

Why? I think Fen makes sense in both Rory/Fen scumteam and Vit/Fen scumteam so I think we'd be best off lynching her.

Why did you vote her?

agreed

VOTE: Fenchurch

I told you malpa was town btw. Did fenchurch not see his townslip?

still think Rory is suspect though, and explains well why muffin was nominated twice. Not liking his attitude to me either

Quilford and BB still need to answer my questions or I might consider a BB vote

[Twistedspoon]

vitamin still has gut town spells on me
whereas Rory is being the bane of my existence. I'm having a hard time squatting by this Austrain public PC whilst reading his posts

BB needs to stop buddying and answer questions. I think he's town but if rory is somehow town I'll look at him

[Twistedspoon]

btw, can I stress that I take this game very seriously despite my current low activity. It is the only game I'm in atm so I have 100% focus on it. As such rory's attack on me is very frustrating. I must be an easy target to attack when I have to post from this calculator.

As much As I love Fenchurch's playstle, my vote will have to remain on her unless a rory wagon gains momentum. Her malpa votes are not great anyways. I will defend malpa until I fall or am replaced

BB needs to explain why I'm town and Quilford his read on me. I asked these questions earlier

If someone could ISo PZ that'd be swish. why hasn't it been done yet????

[Quilford]

TS is obv-town upon ISO

[VitaminR]

Reeally prefer a BBMolla lynch over a Fenchurch one today. BBMolla/Copper is definitely scum, while there's an outside chance Fenchurch is town.

Twisted (and everyone else not voting BB), here's why you should be convinced that BBMolla/Copper is scum:
- Stayed off the PZ wagon when it almost became viable towards the end of Day 1 despite claiming to think Amrun was town and EXPLICITLY saying he was looking for a better wagon.
- Always had PZ around third on his scumlist, PZ did the same for Copper (Copper kept saying "there's probably scum in malp, Rory, and PZ, you guys" and PZ said something like "yeah, I don't like either of our hydras, but I really want to lynch malp first" a couple of times). This is CLASSIC scumbuddy behaviour.
- Neither BBMolla nor Copper have looked really town (see BBMolla's #1044, his opinions after reading the game - basically null on everyone, but hey, despite having no opinions, I'm pretty sure PZ is the lynch for today - and his vote today).

[Quilford]

My read on PZ

is

, currently, slightly-town. Based on his other actions as well. In #34 I was just saying that the claiming-tell is not strong (like, 1 point on a 100 point scale), as a couple of people were saying that I had a townread on him and I felt that was too far. Ultimately, I'm not fond of declaring people town early on, because I've seen games where scum get an easy ride that way.

This is incredibly scummy in light of PZ's flip...

and throughout Fenchurch's ISO I can see more of a case on PZ than anyone else and yet her first vote for him was day before yesterday

[Twistedspoon]

TS is obv-town upon ISO

sigh

how am I supposed to tell if this is sheeping off of the common read or not without reasons?

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchurch is my scum #2, so would be up for lynching her as well.

what has changed here then vitamin?

[Quilford]

Look, I don't really mind which one of molla and Fench we lynch. But I have a larger scum read on Fench and I think her flip will be helpful re: mafia voting patterns

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twisted you're just transparent that's all there is to it

[Quilford]

I have another reason but I'm not revealing it just yet.