Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

[Twistedspoon]

i don't really care about his opinion on amrun, since i have probably skimmed/read/seen most of her games on ms so my meta knowledge is pretty good, so that doesn't strike a chord.

you should care about the opinions of another member of the town, especially one who you believe to be town

skimming or reading games doesn't quite have the same mindset as having been mafiosi partners with Amrun does it though?

[jerobbo]

I don't buy the whole 'I've been partners with someone before and I know how they play' thing.

You're all intelligent people and I'd think you're all smart enough to think 'Oh hang on, someone I've been scum with before is in this game I better not play exactly like I did that game or they will rumble me'

So either you think Amrun is thick and can only play in one distinct style, or there is the very real possibility that you are wrong.

[Twistedspoon]

changing your entire playstyle is easier said than done.

It's like changing your personality. Whilst you may make your best efforts at the end of the day you are who you are and eventually that will show

I've played at least 5 games with amrun before this (from the top of my head)

[jerobbo]

changing your entire playstyle is easier said than done.

It's not even really that - it's faking your town style while being scum. I think anyone who is smart enough and articulate enough can manage that.

I'm not saying it's easy, what I'm saying is that you being so seemingly completely sure that Amrun is Town based on one game you played together as Scum is really naive of you. Do you not think you're being too trusting in a game based on deception?

[Twistedspoon]

no, I have other reasons too which I have stated many a time. I'm not going to post them again, especially since Amrun isn't getting lynched today it seems

[jerobbo]

no, I have other reasons too which I have stated many a time. I'm not going to post them again, especially since Amrun isn't getting lynched today it seems

I must have missed the other ones, I'll have a read back.

You're probably right, I don't see anyone getting the needed 6 votes before Sunday unless something changes drastically

[Twistedspoon]

Amrun wasn't even on Ns's wagon; it makes no sense to go for her first anyways. The probability is far lower


anyways, we're still due 2 golden catchup posts

[Morthas]

Day 2 Votecount the Sixth

Amrun

- Fruit Basket, SleepyKrew, jerobbo

L-3

jerobbo

- ScreamingHawk,

fatlikepig

: - Twistedspoon, pidgey L-4

bvoigt

: - Quilford, fatlikepig,

Equinox

: - Amrun , bvoigt

SleepyKrew

: - Equinox

Not Voting:

- None


With 11 Alive - 6 to lynch

Day 2 deadline: Sunday, 20th of November

Mod: Nobody Special hasn't posted in over a week. Can we prod/replace him, please?

Sure.

[Amrun]

He actually died Day 1.... My mistake. lol

[Amrun]

Okay... In the interest of getting something done.

VOTE: fatlikepig

I don't have an explicit townread on him and his reactions to pressure were not great. It's a more viable wagon than any I am currently pushing.

[SleepyKrew]

So Amrun and TS are buddies and bvoigt is the third that they're trying to sacrifice. Cool.
Dear someone who made a list of reads on everybody, you forgot me.
Hey Amrun. I posted. <3

[Amrun]

Easy to forget you when you never post.

Also I have a townread on bvoigt and only an idiot would think I was buddies with C_P's slot, so get off the crackpipe and start reading the game.

[SleepyKrew]

I did just read the game. That's how I figured out your buddies.

Amrun, you seem very insulting. I thought you didn't appreciate being insulted.

[Amrun]

I'm hurt that you've abandoned me in this game.

Also, I did not insult you in post 1136. If you just read the game, you didn't read it very in-depth. I know this to be true so I don't mind saying it.

[SleepyKrew]

I've... "abandoned" you? Splain?

"idiot"
"get off the crackpipe"
And I didn't just mean insulting to me. In my very in-depth reread paired with a psycho-analysis, I have determined that you...
Are being insulting.

[Twistedspoon]

SK, start playing for real or replace out

you never explain anything and I've got to the point where I'm just plain sick of it

you haven't made any analysis or anything and you're never going to persuade anyone when you don't act as part of the town at all. It would appear that any analysis or evaluation or any sound reasons whatsoever beyond logical fallacies and conflation are beyond any capacity of yours whatsoever. I'd challenge you to prove me wrong but I feel as though you're on a completely different wavelength here >_>

When you've done zilch you have no right to be making wild baseless accusations amigo

[Amrun]

I said only an idiot would think those things after serious reading and consideration, which you clearly haven't done.

Get off the crackpipe was a joke, if you couldn't tell... I thought we could joke like that.

And you have barely posted this whole game and have done zero analysis.

[SleepyKrew]

Amrun. Not just me. You've been insulting others too. That's where my beef lies.
TS I miss the old you. Come back. Please.

[Amrun]

TS is playing a solid game.

And I apologized already for general insults. I got a little frustrated. Can't do much more than that.

[Fruit Basket]

busy today, football's on

Spoiler: words for people

okay whatever. time to bounce ideas off people I know will help:
Equinox explain your strong town read on amrun. what am i missing that you're seeing? what do you think of gthe points I made on her lack of conviction w/r/t not only her vote today but also yesterday. what's your read on bvoigt btw?

ts: too care was probably not true, but i was mostly just saying but i trust my reads over yours (no offense, it's just i'm arrogant). i use meta, so reading games and reading scum quicktopics helps me get an insight. off the top of my head i've read designer, mafiascumfantasy camp, white flag, a jason game maybe x-files plus pretty much any large theme since i read them all. so I don't think being buddies gives a better insight, really. however since you and equinox both seem to have very strong town reads I guess i need to re-evaluate. oh, do you think pidgey is a good or bad guy?

sleepyykrew if not amrun then who? i initially thought jerro was scum w/ amrun btw, as he looked reluctant to switch his vote but now that seems very unlikely. i could see bvoigt but c_p makes little sense, since there's a real chance a wagon could gain momentum due to his standard of play.

i need to read through bvoigt and fatlikepig in more detail, give bvoigt's thoughts on jerro more thought and do any number of things but yeah.

screaminghawk you're nigh on confirmed town, share your thoughts please

amrun do you still feel sk is town

main point: can everyone post their top three by this time tomorrow?

[Amrun]

Before his near-flake, I felt that he was.

It's not the strongest town read I have, though.

[Twistedspoon]

busy today, football's on

can't blame you

i use meta, so reading games and reading scum quicktopics helps me get an insight. off the top of my head i've read designer, mafiascumfantasy camp, white flag, a jason game maybe x-files plus pretty much any large theme since i read them all.

so what conclusions did you make of amrun's meta from reading her games?

oh, do you think pidgey is a good or bad guy?

good

main point: can everyone post their top three by this time tomorrow?

top 3 to lynch?

fat, BV and someone else who was on NS's wagon

TS I miss the old you. Come back. Please.

elaborate
from what you knew of the old me I hardly posted and formed very weak opinions which I pushed much farther than I could justify and remained closed-minded

Bring the Old SK back instead

[pidgey]

Gonna make a better post later, but im down for lynching, in order: quil, fat, vboigt

Will do some stuff later, been oh so fkn busy.

[Amrun]

oh my god i literally forgot quilford was in this game

lynch him?

[Amrun]

VOTE: quilford