Mini 1429 - Hunt in the Dungeon - Game Over

[Superdeclan]

why not vote confscum delta and we can get ztife tomorrow? or i can investigate tonight?

assuming there is some sort of protection in the game on me tonight.

Delta is only conf scum from your point of view

[Mac]

declan, why would I make up a role if I were scum (and slandaar has stopped pushing me as scum) to take out VTdelta? it makes no sense. I am the gunsmith.

[Mac]

inb4 delta "mac is lying!!!! CONFIRMATION BIAS!!!!"

[Deltabacon]

Mac is lying. Confirmation Bias.

Just because you can predict my argument, doesn't mean my rebuttal is in any way less true.

[Mac]

confirmation bias is what I'm having with slandaar.

not with you.

[Superdeclan]

declan, why would I make up a role if I were scum (and slandaar has stopped pushing me as scum) to take out VTdelta? it makes no sense. I am the gunsmith.

there is a small chance you are. I know it's tiny but still small. I DO think delta is scum but want to finish mass-claiming

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Limo

please claim. I have a funny feeling you're town but we're all claiming

[Ztife]

Lets summarize your replies Limo.

Just dropping in from a night full of work to say the above post is horrible. Half-assed mass claims are incredibly antitown.

Nice derp logic as usual as you are the one who insist on not claiming.

It isn't derp logic at all. I'm not insisting I'm being pro-town, and I've never refuted your argument on me being anti-town. Half-assed mass claiming

is

antitown, regardless if I'm fucking refusing to claim or not.

>"Im didnt insist im pro-town, I never disagreed im anti-town"

So are you pro-town or not? Why you would

not

want to play for the benefit of town? How is that not scummy?

>"Half claims is anti-town" "I refuse to claim"

and how would finishing our mass claim now be good for town? explain.

I don't need to answer this. You obviously don't care about the actual logic behind finishing and not finishing a mass claim. You're trying to create an opportunity in which you would try to find another instance to call me scummy. I don't know why the recent Delta-scum thing popped up, and maybe I'll read about it later, but there's absolutely no fucking way you are living to lylo. Even though I think you're scum, the previous sentence can be taken into a context regardless of your alignment.

>"I dont care to explain why I refuse to claim.

I know that half claims is anti-town, therefore im deliberately being anti-town

."
>"Ztife doesn't understand mass claims. I understand mass claims. I refuse to claim even though I said its anti-town. Ztife is trying to accuse me of being scummy"

See your consistency? Its crap.

>"Even though I think Ztife is scum, I would lynch him even if he's not"

This is after you accuse me of trying to find ways lynch you.

Somebody else please comment on this. I really can't understand this poor logic coming from limo.

[Ztife]

declan, why would I make up a role if I were scum (and slandaar has stopped pushing me as scum) to take out VTdelta? it makes no sense. I am the gunsmith.

there is a small chance you are. I know it's tiny but still small. I DO think delta is scum but want to finish mass-claiming

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Limo

please claim. I have a funny feeling you're town but we're all claiming

Please respond to post 1134.

And what small chance might Mac have scum motivations to claim GS? Please explain.

[Keybladewielder]

Put me back on V/LA
So sorry something came up

[Limo]

You summarized my replies and...that did exactly what? You're still missing the point.
I'm obviously going to have to break this down into baby steps for you.

"Im didnt insist im pro-town, I never disagreed im anti-town" So are you pro-town or not? Why you would not want to play for the benefit of town? How is that not scummy?

I am not playing pro-town, but my alignment is pro-town. How is that hard to understand?
Meaning, the answers to your questions are respectively: Yes, I'm technically pro-town, but that's not reflected much in my play. I'm lazy. That can be considered scummy and I

never

argued that it wasn't.

"Half claims is anti-town" "I refuse to claim"

I already refuted this. It looks like you're trying to bring up a contradiction in my play, but it's too bad that the contradiction is

predicated

on the fact that I claim that I'm playing pro-town.
I'm not, and you could have simplified this much more by just voting me for "playing anti-town on purpose" to begin with. You didn't; you constructed some dumb as fuck narrative-esque arguments to discredit me.

>"I dont care to explain why I refuse to claim. I know that half claims is anti-town, therefore im deliberately being anti-town."

Addressed; what's your point? I'm being anti-town. How many times do you have to reiterate this in the same post like there's actually some merit to what you're saying?

>"Ztife doesn't understand mass claims. I understand mass claims. I refuse to claim even though I said its anti-town. Ztife is trying to accuse me of being scummy" See your consistency? Its crap.

This doesn't make sense. There's no waver in my consistency.
A) I'm playing in an anti-town fashion.
B) I refused to claim, even though I understand that half-assed massclaims are anti-town.
C) I'm admitting that I'm playing in said anti-town fashion.

Where do I falter?

Tell me more.

>"Even though I think Ztife is scum, I would lynch him even if he's not" This is after you accuse me of trying to find ways lynch you.

This is true. I think you're scum in this game, so why we're discussing the hypothetical other hand is beyond me. But yes, I would gladly lynch the fuck out of you with steel-tempered rope regardless of your alignment. It's imperative that, even including most other circumstantial games like this one, you die before LyLo.

[Remembrance]

@Limo claim.
@Superdeclan after Limo claims, claim.

[Limo]

Not happening.

[Remembrance]

Argh, you better be, like the most useful PR ever.

[Remembrance]

Read the mafia gun smith wiki I posted though. There's being lazy and then there's being blatantly ignorant of the goings on of the game. By ignoring what is going on with Delta, you've purposely missed scum for the second time.

[Limo]

I'll read back, but you can go ahead and keep trying to frame me in a bad light. It's cringe-eliciting, really.

[Limo]

OK, a Delta lynch is fine with me.

[Remembrance]

Thank you.

[Remembrance]

@Slandaar, looks like you're going to have to claim for him.

[Ztife]

You summarized my replies and...that did exactly what? You're still missing the point.
I'm obviously going to have to break this down into baby steps for you.

"Im didnt insist im pro-town, I never disagreed im anti-town" So are you pro-town or not? Why you would not want to play for the benefit of town? How is that not scummy?

I am not playing pro-town, but my alignment is pro-town. How is that hard to understand?
Meaning, the answers to your questions are respectively: Yes, I'm technically pro-town, but that's not reflected much in my play. I'm lazy. That can be considered scummy and I

never

argued that it wasn't.

You said you are not playing pro-town, so how am I discrediting you when you have said it yourself? And 2, scums and town alike will say that their alignment is town. That's like the most epic bullshit reasoning to excuse your play.

"Half claims is anti-town" "I refuse to claim"

I already refuted this. It looks like you're trying to bring up a contradiction in my play, but it's too bad that the contradiction is

predicated

on the fact that I claim that I'm playing pro-town.
I'm not, and you could have simplified this much more by just voting me for "playing anti-town on purpose" to begin with. You didn't; you constructed some dumb as fuck narrative-esque arguments to discredit me.

>"I dont care to explain why I refuse to claim. I know that half claims is anti-town, therefore im deliberately being anti-town."

Addressed; what's your point? I'm being anti-town. How many times do you have to reiterate this in the same post like there's actually some merit to what you're saying?

>"Ztife doesn't understand mass claims. I understand mass claims. I refuse to claim even though I said its anti-town. Ztife is trying to accuse me of being scummy" See your consistency? Its crap.

This doesn't make sense. There's no waver in my consistency.
A) I'm playing in an anti-town fashion.
B) I refused to claim, even though I understand that half-assed massclaims are anti-town.
C) I'm admitting that I'm playing in said anti-town fashion.

Where do I falter?

Tell me more.

>"Even though I think Ztife is scum, I would lynch him even if he's not" This is after you accuse me of trying to find ways lynch you.

This is true. I think you're scum in this game, so why we're discussing the hypothetical other hand is beyond me. But yes, I would gladly lynch the fuck out of you with steel-tempered rope regardless of your alignment. It's imperative that, even including most other circumstantial games like this one, you die before LyLo.

Points A, B and C, why? But I would guess your reply would be something along that "I refuse to explain".
To sum it off, "I play like scum, but im town. I already said that I play like that. Why would you wanna accuse me Ztife?"

@Deltabacon
What do you think of limo?

[Ztife]

That can be considered scummy and I

never

argued that it wasn't.

SO why shouldn't I vote you for that? Because you said you're town?

[Limo]

You're trying to delve into further arguments with the pivot point being your attempt to point out a contradiction. That inevitably and in itself discredits me or

would

discredit me had I not shot a 9mm bullet through your argument.

Why do I play the way I do? Is that even a question that has a purpose behind it? It's a playstyle issue, what the fuck. Lol.

Why ask Deltabacon? Think you're going to try to rally his support in trying to lynch me?

Forgot about this earlier:

Unvote, vote: Delta

[Limo]

That can be considered scummy and I

never

argued that it wasn't.

SO why shouldn't I vote you for that? Because you said you're town?

For that? There's no reason why you shouldn't in theory. But your beginning vote on me was, without a shadow of doubt and/or subjective point of view, horribly scummy.

[Ztife]

You're trying to delve into further arguments with the pivot point being your attempt to point out a contradiction. That inevitably and in itself discredits me or

would

discredit me had I not shot a 9mm bullet through your argument.

Why do I play the way I do? Is that even a question that has a purpose behind it? It's a playstyle issue, what the fuck. Lol.

Why ask Deltabacon? Think you're going to try to rally his support in trying to lynch me?

Forgot about this earlier:

Unvote, vote: Delta

Not really, Im not trying to lynch you today since Deltabacon is going.

I like texts, I especially like defensive wall of text, and I think it would be interesting to read back on deltabacon is going to say about you after he flips.

[Ztife]

And no, the focus was not that it was a contradiction, it was the fact that your playing like scum.

The contradiction is scummy. And you explain its not a contradiction because you said you are going to play in this way, and you admitted that its scummy. It is still scummy. Get it?

[Mac]

You know, delta's not going to give much away if he knows his death is impending.

But I will say he made a case against Limo with his first post: Limo is likely town.