Mafia 45: Back to Gambits II - Game over!

[elvis_knits]

Ayeeee! That means I was sleeping without werewolf protection, and if elvis dies again, I will eaten by the lupine lunatics in my sleep!

Elvis should not reveal whether she will try to give me a good night's sleep or resurrect someone.

I'm surprised they didn't kill you already. Maybe it's because they're still looking for safe roles?

[Fritzler]

Ayeeee! That means I was sleeping without werewolf protection, and if elvis dies again, I will eaten by the lupine lunatics in my sleep!

Elvis should not reveal whether she will try to give me a good night's sleep or resurrect someone.

I'm surprised they didn't kill you already. Maybe it's because they're still looking for safe roles?

i think so, cuz puzzle olio and i are confirmedzorz

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

Lloyd: 4

(Commodore Amazing, Green Crayons, Fritzler, VitaminR)

Green Crayons: 1

(Lloyd)

8 to lynch.

[Puzzle]

#1185 : Puzzle votes Lloyd.

Isay elvis roles a die, and either resurects: ibaesha, ranger, speedy, thok, aces, or hez.

Toss a coin : 50/50 between resurrecting and protecting D_G (or 50/50 D_G/CA, if Lloyd's lynch fails).
Resurrect only between PeaceBringer (townie), Ibaesha (townie), SpeedyKQ (Judas) and Aces_Wild (vig) : 25% chance each.

If E_K protects, she isn't confirmed but D_G lives and can resurrect Aces_Wild.
If E_K resurrects, she is confirmed (assuming she doesn't die).

In any case, let's not advise the werewolves if they should go for E_K or D_G.

Last thing : Vismaior isn't 100% confirmed, although his move would have been quite gutsy with the risks of protection on day 1 if he lied.

[VisMaior]

Why on earth would E_K lie?

[Cadmium]

Cad, if Hez was the vig, wouldn't he have still vigged Monty?

I corrected myself before you posted this .

If everyone who has claimed is telling the truth, the remaining mafia are Lloyd and Cadmium. I think that it's Monty + Lloyd.

I also think that it's Monty and Lloyd, although Monty

could

be telling the truth with only two known townies. VitaminR or myself would be another possibility in this case (unless we are all fooled by another claim atm). And I think the last remaining werewolf would be armlx. There was something about his vote on Astronaut earlier on, after which Astronaut voted him too. Both votes did not last long at all once it became clear Astronaut was save. It seemed like a last attempt to clear a connection.

I'm willing to go after either Lloyd or armlx today. I think it would be our best bet.

Vote: Lloyd

for now.

[Thoth]

Why on earth would E_K lie?

She could in theory still be the vampire. I don't know if she would have the chance to talk to the other werewolves last night, but if so she would know of some safe claims. If not she could still have made a risky guess. A ressurrection would remove the remaining doubt, but is risky in that she might die if the werewolves guess correct.

I agree with lynching Lloyd of course, confirming some more players or killing scum. Did every unclaimed player already check in after the e_k claim? Just in case someone wants to counterclaim.

[Lloyd]

Lynching Green Crayons would confirm 4 people - Green Crayons, armlx, VitaminR, and Commodore Amazing

Lynching me would confirm 2 people - Commodore Amazing and I

In case I died last night, I subtly hinted at my role yesterday. In post 1130...Take the first letter of every sentence, plus my name at the end.

Since I might die tonight, I'm officially claiming so we don't lose a role. I'm the Archangel.

My night choices have been:

Night 1 - Protect Coron (by Iammars)

Night 2 - No choice (I hadn't replaced Iammars yet)

Night 3 - Protect DrippingGoofball (by me)

Night 4 - Protect DrippingGoofball (by me)

[Puzzle]

Humm, if true, D_G seems to have full protection for tonight if we leave Lloyd alone.

How about :
- E_K and Lloyd both protect D_G tonight.
- we lynch GC.
If he dies and is town, D_G can bet on Commodore being lynched tomorrow safely, allowing her to resurrect Aces_wild the following night (unless she dies) + we confirm GC's list of non-mafia.
If he doesn't die, Commodore and GC are both confirmed, with GC's list confirmed.
If he is scum, we lynched scum.

If D_G turns up dead tomorrow, we have good chances to hit scum by lynching Lloyd (and if he's the Archangel, E_K is the vampire).

Unvote, vote GC

. I think confirming more townies (and resurrecting more) is the way forward here and this move has good chances to guarantee a successful lynch for tomorrow.

[Thoth]

Sounds good:

vote:GC

[olio]

Roger Moore.

vote: GC

[VisMaior]

HmHm. Suits me...

vote GC

[Cadmium]

Hmm.

Unvote: Lloyd
Vote: Green Crayons

That's 6 out of 8.

[Puzzle]

@ D_G : if GC doesn't die, or if he dies as town, bet on Cadmium being lynched tomorrow.
He's not in GC's clear list (and he's scum...).

[Green Crayons]

Whatever, I'd prefer to test CA's lynch on someone else first.

Unvote: Lloyd

. Someone who hasn't been confirmed or at least claimed something important.

[VitaminR]

Unvote: Lloyd

Vote: Green Crayons

I don't really care how we test CA's claim and Lloyd makes a compelling argument.
That's 7, I believe.

[Puzzle]

Whatever, I'd prefer to test CA's lynch on someone else first.

Unvote: Lloyd

. Someone who hasn't been confirmed or at least claimed something important.

Don't worry : if you die, it will be while giving us Commodore as scum and confirming four non-mafioso.

We appreciate your noble and voluntary sacrifice.

[Cadmium]

@ D_G : if GC doesn't die, or if he dies as town, bet on Cadmium being lynched tomorrow.
He's not in GC's clear list (and he's scum...).

Did I already mention how much I'm looking forward to you finding out you were sooo wrong? Oh, I did? Well, be sure I'll tell you again tomorrow .

[Green Crayons]

No use in delaying the inevitable.

Vote: Green Crayons

.

Honestly, I don't know how scum can win with this setup.

[Puzzle]

Agreed, the setup needs more tweaking to help scums (like reducing the number of players by 2 and giving each scum team a fake claim to start with + making some roles less confirmable) but let's discuss it once the game is over.

@ D_G : bet on a Cadmium lynch tomorrow.

[Commodore Amazing]

unvote: Lloyd, vote: Green Crayons

[Commodore Amazing]

Tomorrow we lynch Monty or Cadmium?

[Puzzle]

unvote: Lloyd, vote: Green Crayons

You know, if he still moves at that point, it's just due to spasms from the nerves...

[DrippingGoofball]

@ D_G : bet on a Cadmium lynch tomorrow.

Duly noted.

unvote? vote:GreenCrayons

[Cadmium]

if GC doesn't die, or if he dies as town, bet on Cadmium being lynched tomorrow.

And what if he turns out to be scum ?