Open 104 - The New C9 - Game Over

[The Central Scrutinizer]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

[hewitt]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

I'm interested in hearing what you have to say more about these players cause a lot of heat was on them earlier in the game. That was D1 though and it was a much different sort of game.

[Wall-E]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

Weird how you want to lynch someone active who's not you.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This is it for the moment. I'm doing PBPA's as the spirit moves me... just ticking through the highlights. Trying to get useful info.

PBP Read of

Sun Tzu

- the high points as viewed by TCS. His relationships with other players.

Post 0:

MickeyMike and atakdog are both wolves.

Of course, neither were scum, and so I think we can take this as evidence that Sun was operating at a pretty basic level of deception.

Post 6:

StrangerCoug wrote:
Vote: Sun Tzu for being the serial killer last time we played this setup.


Hey, that's not fair. I hardly got to play since I got night-killed on night 1.

Besides, I took out killa 7 night 0, so you should be grateful.

I'm a big proponent of the idea that there is a better than 50% chance that scum being voted or voting in the earliest stages of the game will be paired with a scumpartner. So scumpoints for SC/Wall-E v2.0.

Post 23:

I like this SiestaGuru already. I have no read yet, but I like him.

This is a low percentage play if SG is scum, and in my experience scum publicly buddies up to town, not to partners. Big town points for SG.

Post 34:

I'm not very good at reading matrix, but this looks like his villager game to me.

Based on post 0, scumpoints for matrix.

Post 44:

Hitch wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
vote omg_im_innocent_wtf


wat?

this is awful


Why is it awful?

Null, but I think it's relevant.

Post 58:

I agree about Hitch's post being a possible scum tell too.

So... if we're going with our assumption from 0, then townpoints for Hitch. However, this could begin to look like distancing when combined with the above "relevant" post.

Post 64:

I agree with atak that Hitch is wolfy. I also think we can clear him if Hitch comes up wolf because he wouldn't bus a wolf on day 1 like that.

vote Hitch

Yeah, this is beginning to look like bussing to me. I need to read Hitch in iso next.

Post 80:

Hitch you know I'm a tone player and you know I have your number.

I'm feeling a hint of inside knowledge?

Later Sun goes on to focus on three players--Hitch, Wall-E, and me. I think based on his "level" he's either pointing at 2/3 townies, or 3/3 townies. Hitch may be scum, and there may be distancing, but I'm not sure if he's the lynch for today.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

Weird how you want to lynch someone active who's not you.

Scum can't all be lurking. Scum is deathly afraid of all doing the same thing.

[Wall-E]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

Weird how you want to lynch someone active who's not you.

Scum can't all be lurking. Scum is deathly afraid of all doing the same thing.

Are they?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

In process of rereading, but I have to go to work and I'd like to post at least something indicative of my thoughts before I do that. I think that our highest probability lynches would be Wall-E, matrix, or hitch.

More on why later, unless I change my mind, in which case I will tell you why.

Weird how you want to lynch someone active who's not you.

Scum can't all be lurking. Scum is deathly afraid of all doing the same thing.

Are they?

In my experience, yes. Which is all I have to go by.

[hewitt]

Well I think it would really depend on the players who are scum. During night they probably decide whether they're going to go off and target different players or all gang up on one. I guess it depends on the game, the players, and the night so I'm not really sure if the scum is deathly afraid of all doing the same thing argument is helpful here. It could be, but might not be.

[Wall-E]

very fence-sitty hewitt

[hewitt]

very fence-sitty hewitt

I don't think it's fence-sitty, I think it's fact. And the fact is, it's getting harder and harder to read who's scummy and who's not at this point for me since there's such low posting and such. So I'm not going to rely on that method of scum-hunting because I don't think it's reliable enough. Trust me, when I think of a better method or I get a clearer read on someone I will let you know.

[Wall-E]

There are fifty pages of content for you to pick over. Don't disguise your laziness as helplessness.

[hewitt]

There are fifty pages of content for you to pick over. Don't disguise your laziness as helplessness.

I've reread every single page and I've been keeping up the whole game so I know what's happened in this game. Again, if I could get a get read on somebody who I feel is scum then I will call them out. Wall-E, how about you reread and pinpoint who is scum and why if it's that easy.

[Wall-E]

I never said it would be easy.

And I already have. Twice since the lull in the game started. What's your excuse again?

[hewitt]

I never said it would be easy.

And I already have. Twice since the lull in the game started. What's your excuse again?

I don't have an "excuse" and I don't need an "excuse". If I'm going to start targeting someone as scum I want to be able to be pretty damn sure they're scum. I seriously don't think we can go lynching another town player and survive.

[darkdude]

Vote Count for Day 3

There are 8 Alive, so 5 to Lynch.

ScottHoward [1] (Wall-E, )

Morphing addict [0] ()
matrix [0] ()
SiestaGuru [0] ()
Hitch [0] ()
hewitt [0] ()
The Central Scrutinizer [0] ()
Wall-E [0] ()

No Lynch [0] ()

Not Voting [7] (Morphing addict, matrix, SiestaGuru, ScottHoward, hewitt, The Central Scrutinizer, Hitch, )

[hewitt]

Okay, so um, let's not give up...

Alright, Wall-E, so why is your vote on scotthoward? And before you jump the gun and say go reread I did...a couple times and I haven't really got the reasoning behind why you're voting for him.

[Wall-E]

I never said it would be easy.

And I already have. Twice since the lull in the game started. What's your excuse again?

I don't have an "excuse" and I don't need an "excuse". If I'm going to start targeting someone as scum I want to be able to be pretty damn sure they're scum. I seriously don't think we can go lynching another town player and survive.

That means you can't even LOOK for scum?

[Wall-E]

Okay, so um, let's not give up...

Alright, Wall-E, so why is your vote on scotthoward? And before you jump the gun and say go reread I did...a couple times and I haven't really got the reasoning behind why you're voting for him.

SH has been lauded as a pogger superstar. Since we're losing, he's clearly not doing his usual to help.

The simplest answer is usually the best.

[hewitt]

I never said it would be easy.

And I already have. Twice since the lull in the game started. What's your excuse again?

I don't have an "excuse" and I don't need an "excuse". If I'm going to start targeting someone as scum I want to be able to be pretty damn sure they're scum. I seriously don't think we can go lynching another town player and survive.

That means you can't even LOOK for scum?

When did I imply that I'm not scum-hunting?

[Wall-E]

You never inferred that. I did. Bad logic is a scumtell.

[hewitt]

Okay because I definitely never said I stopped looking for scum, what I said was that I hadn't figured out anybody who I thought was scum for sure.

[Wall-E]

You're not likely to EVER be 'for sure' who is the scum. It's a function of the game that town is never positive about their choices. You're 0/3 atm.

I'm calling you nervous scum.

Unvote: Vote: hewitt

[hewitt]

You're not likely to EVER be 'for sure' who is the scum. It's a function of the game that town is never positive about their choices. You're 0/3 atm.

I'm calling you nervous scum.

Unvote: Vote: hewitt

It's true that you're never 100% positive whether or not somebody is scum or not but when I get the feeling that someone is scum and I'm fairly confident in that accusation then that is 'for sure' to me.

[Hitch]

scott howard

is a better vote than hewitt for several reasons

[Wall-E]

Please illuminate the reasons for us.