Mini Normal 2296 Scum PT

[Tchill13]

Alright drew. I've thrown as much shade and undermined red as much as I could while trying to make it feel natural and not scummy.

Hopefully you can do something with it if we've cracked the door open enough for doubt to set in.

[Tchill13]

What are the odds red has a vest or something.

[Doctor Drew]

I am a lost cause, I am just trying to make you less viable as my buddy at this point.

[Doctor Drew]

I would back off red a bit, will get to a point were suspicious eyes will look your way.

[Tchill13]

Alright. I think we got a good shot at a win drew.

[Tchill13]

Apparently red forgot there's a Mason which would be another confirmed player.

[Tchill13]

If deasvail is the Mason I will have to "earn" the win.

If t3 shoots the Mason I will have to "earn" the win.

If it's just me, the Mason, t3 and deas. Easy win.

[Tchill13]

Still somewhat paranoid that red could have a 1 shot vest on him or something.

Seems like Drew's "one shot strong man" was put in just to confuse scum.

[Tchill13]

I'll avenge my brother.

Mafia kills redff.

[Thestatusquo]

Please put in bold for me when you have a chance. Book keeping etc.

[Tchill13]

mafia kills redff

[Tchill13]

Welp that's pretty maddening. A vig. 2 masons and a role cop wasn't a strong enough setup for town. Scum had to be wifome'd with the strong man modifier lol. How crazy.... Kept red alive another day phase.

[Tchill13]

mod what is the order of operations for night actions?

If scum kills and vig shoots.

Does the scum kill lead to a scum victory before the Vigs shot has been taken into account?

[Thestatusquo]

All newbie games use Natural Action Resolution

[Thestatusquo]

Specifically related to your actual question

Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player. (Imagine that all kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.) This means that kills generally do not affect other actions for the purpose of the Golden Rule. One exception is with combinations like Kill versus Recruit; in this case, the kill prevents the recruitment, but the recruitment does not prevent the kill, so by the Golden Rule the kill happen first and the player flips with (and wins with) their old alignment.

[Tchill13]

So if I were to kill t3. And t3 were to eliminate me. Only one left alive would be deas. And town would win correct?

There's no way to avoid this outcome. So I'm just going to lose right?

[Tchill13]

Didn't know it'd be ruled like that... Well not it is seemingly pointless to keep playing.

[Thestatusquo]

That is correct in the event of a cross kill both roles die.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't know why I said newbie games. All NORMAL games.

[Tchill13]

And in the event only one town is left standing... Town wins?

[Thestatusquo]

Correct.

[Tchill13]

I have to get t3 voted out... Alright then.

[Tchill13]

mod. Where would I go to see possible roles in a mini normal?

[Thestatusquo]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game