Mexal wrote:curiouskarmadog wrote:I just cant see why anyone would walk away from a mafia role..lesson learned
Mex, I think this game would have been totally different if you would have survived through N1.
Oh, she walked away cause of the pressure. When you got someone like Jitsu or I breathing down her neck, it's really really hard to get out of it if you're inexperienced. She prob figured it was easier to leave then try to wiggle out.
It's true. Both in real life and in Mafia, people can do some surprising things when they are backed into a corner with little chance of escape. If you've ever seen a cornerned animal, you know what I mean. But after getting burned by this a few times, I think people learn how to cope with this.
If you've got a good analyzer after you, it's even worse, because they're not just going to be content to sit around and watch your squirm. They're already analyzing your approach, trying to predict what you will do, and maneuvering to cut off your escape routes. And if you give crappy answers to the analyzer, it only reinforces their belief that you have something to hide and digs you a deeper hole. If you're not prepared for that, it can get really ugly.
Think about the situation Anata was in. When I attacked her and voted, Mexal and Jerub followed soon after and even Korlash stated he wanted to hear her defense. Having Mexal and I breathing down her neck was bad enough, but her two scumbuddies abandoned her too, letting her fend for herself. I'd have to be pretty frustrated in that situation myself as a newbie scum. I've seen people get frustrated enough in situations like that, that they even posted their role PMs just to prove the attacker wrong (only to get themself Modkilled).
You may think that the obvious strategy then would be to grab someone, throw them into the corner and attack them until they crack. But if you continue to do this without just cause, the rest of the town will think you are an aggressive bully, and might lynch you. So I think it is a fine line to walk.
I think this really underscores why it's necessary to have a good defense. If Anata had actually tried to respond to my points (even if she just played the newbie card), I probably would have let up on her. But she didn't -- she evaded my points and tried to turn the tables on me with a weak argument. By that point, I sensed I was in a superior position and I smelled blood. I wasn't even looking for a great defense; I was looking for *a* defense.
So when she tried to change the subject and turn my argument back on me with a waek argument, I went for the jugular. I just couldn't she why she would have done that if she were innocent. My original case on her may or may not have been built on actual scummy behavior, but her reaction to it was very telling to me.
In a way though, I'd feel bad if I were the reason why she abandoned this game.
@Mod: Did Anata112 say anything to you about why she left?
