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[Lowell]

Obvious NK, yes.

[Lowell]

That's what's scummy.

[Lowell]

I'd rather kill basically anyone else.

convince me

How about your first point of 1294? That one line seems to be a stronger case than anything I've heard on SS.

[Fro99er]

Oh you meant pushing GL and TTTT. Nevermind then. Hold on.

I'm saying

You = pushed SS and GL
SBF = pushed TTTT and GL

now that GL is dead, why does that make SS look better but not TTTT?

[Fro99er]

VC 3.2

Lowell

(2): Fro99er 1211, SweetBlueFlowers 1234

TTTT

(1): Lowell 1232

Not Voting

(2): Sobolev Space, TTTT

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
D3 will end Friday, March 31/17 at 8:30pm, or in (expired on 2017-03-31 16:30:00).

Mod Notes:
Lowell is V/LA until Tuesday

OK then

VOTE: Sobolev Space
almost a coin flip between SS and Lowell
but I'm going with my early Lowell TR

Lowell you were scum reading me pretty hard yesterday. What changed your mind? Was it just the GL nightkill?

Mostly, yes. Plus I noticed SBF's constant "If eddie is scum and GL is town, SS must be scum" that he'sbeen repeating over and over. Makes the case on you look like a set-up.

So you're saying SBF is setting up SS?

don't buy it

This just after you said SBF is town for saying eddie was obvious town.

Let's not have SS hammer before Lowell answers this

UNVOTE:

Cool. Since its no longer a hammer:

VOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Space

[Fro99er]

whoops...was trying to preview so I could edit in a non-official votecount

[Fro99er]

Unofficial

Lowell (1): Sobolev Space
TTTT (1): Lowell
Sobolev Space (2): TTTT, SweetBlueFlowers

Not Voting (1): Fro99er

[Fro99er]

^^^ yah this is what I mean

So, maybe that describes frogger?

Don't self-hammer SS, I've decided it's not you and that'll leave me alive at LYLO which is terrible. Let's get this right today.

How does this describe me?

I was scumreading Eddie day 1

[Fro99er]

Lowell's push on TTTT is pretty gross considering the reason he's townreading SS is the same reason that he should be townreading TTTT

If he's town, how does he not even consider that SS could be scum, given that's his main reason, yet he's ok calling TTTT scum?

[Fro99er]

Hmm. I don't really have enough experience to verify that but it seems plausible. TTTTs catch up posts will probably affect my read on him the most.

Where do you stand on TTTT now?

[Fro99er]

@Lowell - I'm willing to work with you to an extent but my reads today are all over the place. Looking back I'm pretty sure TTTT is town however. Who else do you think could be scum?

ah, here...

what about the catchup makes him town?

[Sobolev Space]

@Lowell - I'm willing to work with you to an extent but my reads today are all over the place. Looking back I'm pretty sure TTTT is town however. Who else do you think could be scum?

So you think I'm town?

Ugh. I'm conflicted. I've been scumreading you all game but I feel like today scum!Lowell would probably just try to push me instead of going for all these other random lynches.

I also have the uneasy feeling that one of SBF/TTTT is scum and trying to line up you and me for lynches today and tomorrow to win.

[Sobolev Space]

@Lowell - I'm willing to work with you to an extent but my reads today are all over the place. Looking back I'm pretty sure TTTT is town however. Who else do you think could be scum?

ah, here...

what about the catchup makes him town?

Basically this:

Because I don't think you're a douchebag who strategically replaces out then in again like that.

I have mixed feelings about using this as a basis for reads which I can talk about post-game but its convincing me for now.

[Sobolev Space]

@TTTT- saying you're the "obvious hammer" is scummy as hell.

Why do you think this?

[TTTT]

I also have the uneasy feeling that one of SBF/TTTT is scum and trying to line up you and me for lynches today and tomorrow to win.

This is bullshit.
at least at it applies to me.

Spoiler:

I'm reconsidering SBF to be honest.

Good let's talk SBF.

day2 twilight makes me think eddie's partner is fro99er or sbf
gameplay makes me think its lowell or ss

@TTTT, explain the first part.

1. sbf's was hard TRing Eddie yet dropped an unexpected hammer on him then went out of her way to declare that this means she has to be town (GL was insistent that this was a scum claim btw)
2. In twilight, Eddie tried to spread wifom by talking about who to lynch. the way he did this reveals to my Twilight Trolling Detector^TM that his partner is most likely one of Lowell and sbf.

I agree that if we lynch sbf and she is town then lylo is going to be tough
I'm the obv NK here
I think SS is the right lynch
but if I'm wrong about SS I want lylo to consider every possibility

[TTTT]

18 hours...

[Sobolev Space]

I also have the uneasy feeling that one of SBF/TTTT is scum and trying to line up you and me for lynches today and tomorrow to win.

This is bullshit.
at least at it applies to me.

Fair enough I was mainly referring to SBF there as you're a TR for me. What do you think about it as it applies to SBF?

[SweetBlueFlowers]

Space if you are Town here you have done nothing to demonstrate why you should not be today's lynch over anyone else and you need to do better than this if you expect to help your Town win games. You are this close to a lynch and STILL you are just asking blank questions with no trajectory.

[Sobolev Space]

I know. I've honestly felt pretty lost on reads since Eddie's flip. I've accepted that I'm almost certainly going to be the lynch today and am just trying to steer the conversation so that town can win in lylo.

[Fro99er]

I feel like today scum!Lowell would probably just try to push me instead of going for all these other random lynches.

So why not try to figure that out instead of just voting him when I unvoted Lowell?

[Aristophanes]

VC 3.4

Sobolev Space

(2): TTTT 1258, SweetBlueFlowers 1267

Lowell

(1): Sobolev Space 1261

TTTT

(1): Lowell 1232

Not Voting

(1): Fro99er 1259

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
D3 will end Friday, March 31/17 at 8:30pm, or in (expired on 2017-03-31 16:30:00).

Mod Notes:
Nopers!
Sorry about the late VCs!

[TTTT]

someone hammer already

[TTTT]

@fro99er
If you don't wanna hammer SS
at least try and convince me that lowell is scum

[Lowell]

VOTE: space

HAMMER! My natural lust for blood overcomes my reservations about this particular lynch.

SS being scum will be all sorts of vindication for everything I once--and then no longer--believed about SS/GL interaction.

Flip please.

[Sobolev Space]

Gl town. Sorry I couldn't be more help today.