Super Hero Revolution Game Over!

[Zinger2099]

AGar, Meransiel and Deity shots were perfectly, 100% justified. The others are debatable.

Laugh it up all you want. Town lost and it is everyone's loss. If it makes you feel better to blame it all on the Vig then go right ahead.

[diddin]

We shot AGar lol, not you.

[ZeL1nK]

Yeah, you shot Grey, on the same night we shot him... No matter how you try to justify it, if the vig is shooting the same player scum want dead, it's not a good vig.

[Zinger2099]

AGar is who I was talking to, not apart of the list:

@AGar;

Meransiel and Deity shots were perfectly, 100% justified. The others are debatable.

[MagnaofIllusion]

AGar, Meransiel and Deity shots were perfectly, 100% justified. The others are debatable.

Laugh it up all you want. Town lost and it is everyone's loss. If it makes you feel better to blame it all on the Vig then go right ahead.

No. Just no. The Dana shot was not debatable by any stretch of the imaginiation.

He had soft-claimed a Power-role in a Multi-scum set-up. Actively going out of the way to kill him when scum has every reason to take a shot at him was downright stupid.

Most everyone is (rightfully, IMO) putting most of the blame on you because we successfully targetted scum with lynches pretty much Day 2 on until after I died. Had you made a SINGLE good shot on scum the outcome of the game likely swings to a Town win.

[Zinger2099]

Nah man, people are putting the blame on me because they are whiny kids who don't like to take responsibility because they spend too much time on the internet and not enough in the real world. But who am I to judge.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Nah man, people are putting the blame on me because they are whiny kids who don't like to take responsibility because they spend too much time on the internet and not enough in the real world. But who am I to judge.

Yeah ... those critizing your play are just too involved with Mafia and don't 'live life'.

It can't possibly be that your play was bad. Nope, not possible at all

[Zinger2099]

I never said my play wasn't bad. I said it is silly to put the blame for the team's loss entirely on the actions of a single player.

[vezokpiraka]

I never said my play wasn't bad. I said it is silly to put the blame for the team's loss entirely on the actions of a single player.

You are right. DK shares the blame with you.

[chesskid3]

blacklisting zinger

[Nero Cain]

I wanted to apologize to to Jason for flaking on his game. Sorry bouts that dude.

[Zinger2099]

blacklisting zinger

blacklisting chesskid

[Baby Spice]

omg, an OMGUS after the game has finished lol

[jasonT1981]

bloody hell, people blacklist over the slightest thing these days, for the stupidest of reasoning. No one in this game did anything blacklist worthy in my opinion.

Now, the vig made bad shots granted, sorry Zinger, however those shots are at the discretion of the vig and in my experience they always use shots on who they feel is scum. Zinger did that and was wrong. He played to his win condition, as did chesskid and neither should be blacklist worthy. Neither have made any blacklist worthy postings.

Not agreeing with playstyle IS NOT a black list offense.

[Zinger2099]

bloody hell, people blacklist over the slightest thing these days, for the stupidest of reasoning. No one in this game did anything blacklist worthy in my opinion.

Now, the vig made bad shots granted, sorry Zinger, however those shots are at the discretion of the vig and in my experience they always use shots on who they feel is scum. Zinger did that and was wrong. He played to his win condition, as did chesskid and neither should be blacklist worthy. Neither have made any blacklist worthy postings.

Not agreeing with playstyle IS NOT a black list offense.

I blacklisted chesskid not because of his play but because I don't think a player who is willing to blacklist someone so easily deserves to play in a game. If you're gonna start blacklisting people because of how they played then you have no business playing the game, in my opinion.

[jasonT1981]

I discussed this recently on here, about blacklisting, people are blacklisting people for self-hammering etc which is BS. I only have 2 people on my blacklist from 2 years on here one for lying for reasons to get out of a game, and other for ingame attitude which was severly compromising to the game

[Thor665]

I've got one blacklist.
He said he "intentionally" played really bad when town to cover for himself when he was scum.
As that is dramatically against the play to win concept - he is blacklist worthy.
That's a 'how you play the game' thing that is blacklist worthy in my opinion.
Also, though I had to get in my two cents because I'm a special and unique snowflake, I'm suspicious if we want to actually suss this out it would be better as a MD thread than as an endgame thing. Not that I don't love having this game bounce back to the top of my watched threads list, but...

[Ranmaru]

AGar, Meransiel and Deity shots were perfectly, 100% justified. The others are debatable.

Laugh it up all you want. Town lost and it is everyone's loss. If it makes you feel better to blame it all on the Vig then go right ahead.

No. Just no. The Dana shot was not debatable by any stretch of the imaginiation.

He had soft-claimed a Power-role in a Multi-scum set-up. Actively going out of the way to kill him when scum has every reason to take a shot at him was downright stupid.

Most everyone is (rightfully, IMO) putting most of the blame on you because we successfully targetted scum with lynches pretty much Day 2 on until after I died. Had you made a SINGLE good shot on scum the outcome of the game likely swings to a Town win.

Hrmm. Maybe he didn't notice the soft claim? I remember having scum reads on pr's because I didn't get their subtle actions to lynch scum. (But through experience, I can see them better)

Don't think people should blacklist him for shooting wrong.

I can understand Thor's reason, because it's something relating to win conditions. "You don't want to help town as town to help yourself as scum? Then I won't join your town". I would assume people would rather play with people playing to their wincon.

I'm sure Zinger did, just wasn't as right or as smart.

Hell, who hasn't been cocky as a vig? I know I have. (Especially after netting scum n1, I clicked my happy trigger)

[Ranmaru]

But the other stuff may have been him being stubborn. xP Hopefully you do try to improve though. Even though people put the blame on you and yell at you, just know that you were incorrect.

If you shoot trying to shoot scum, I'm fine with you. I don't NEED you to shoot Policy lynch bait. : P

Self hammering is a diff issue. I'd want to have competent town players, not people who wuss out. But, of course I would be glad for scum to self hammer when I'm town. :3 (Although then the scum team might think negatively of this)

[AGar]

I blacklisted chesskid not because of his play but because I don't think a player who is willing to blacklist someone so easily deserves to play in a game.

[danakillsu]

Self hammering is a diff issue. I'd want to have competent town players, not people who wuss out. But, of course I would be glad for scum to self hammer when I'm town. :3 (Although then the scum team might think negatively of this)

Oddly enough, self-hammering =/= wussing out. I can't say more now, but suffice it to say that self-hammering can be playing to your wincon even if you are a VT.

[diddin]

My self-hammer was legit, I could out the vig and shut everyone up early. Definitely playing to my wincon.

[jasonT1981]

If anyone still has this bookmarked, feel free to signup to my new large theme (WITHOUT Governor)

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =4&t=17919