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[JohnnyFarrar]

I thought that was a given. I have differing levels of suspicion for everyone else.

[Luca Blight]

I'm interested to hear what your reads are, as you have been keeping your cards close to your chest for a while now.

When everyone's ready, I want Lissa to claim first.

[Beck]

Personally not a fan of massclaims but if I'm in the minority I'll go along with it

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is that just a general response or do you feel this town specifically has something to lose from massclaim?

[Beck]

I have never been a fan of massclaims, given the fact scum can fake claim you can never be sure who's legit and who's lying.

[Thesp]

@Thesp - Why Luca and not JF?

I'd probably be happy with either, actually, but I need to take a closer look at it, and will after massclaim. Do you have any objections? Speak now and quickly, please. You're the only one who hasn't weighed in.

[Thesp]

I have never been a fan of massclaims, given the fact scum can fake claim you can never be sure who's legit and who's lying.

Yes, scum can fake a claim. That doesn't mean that forcing them to claim is meaningless or useless, or that they won't stumble. I don't understand a lot of how you play this game, apparently.

[Lissa]

There is still info that can be drawn from claims and how they happen, even if they aren't confirmed to be legitimate

[JohnnyFarrar]

We're not diving into theory discussion, Beck is the only one with an issue and he's agreed to it.

[Marquis]

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LlamaFluff

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Thesp

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— Beck, Egg, JohnnyFarrar, Lissa, LlamaFluff, Luca Blight, Thesp

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[Beck]

I have never been a fan of massclaims, given the fact scum can fake claim you can never be sure who's legit and who's lying.

Yes, scum can fake a claim. That doesn't mean that forcing them to claim is meaningless or useless, or that they won't stumble. I don't understand a lot of how you play this game, apparently.

Where I used to play, a person would be auto-lynched for even suggesting mass claim so it's kind of all I know. I can't recall if I have ever played in a game where mass claim helped town win, maybe I have I just can't remember. And yes I know about scum slip ups, I just saw Pine scum slip in a game that just recently finished.

It will take time for me to be ok with mass claim but i'm not stopping it so let's roll

[LlamaFluff]

@Thesp - Why Luca and not JF?

I'd probably be happy with either, actually, but I need to take a closer look at it, and will after massclaim. Do you have any objections? Speak now and quickly, please. You're the only one who hasn't weighed in.

We need to massclaim... but im not sure why VT claim start it off instead of most town person. Especially since you seem to have Luca as scum so wanting a scum read to choose where a massclaim starts is really odd to me.

[Luca Blight]

What I don't like about it is that it was pretty much a given that a mass-claim would be happening today, and scum last night would have planned exactly what they are going to say - they probably would have even prepared a script for each of them, and triple-checked it for any possible errors, scum slips etc.

I'm probably the least experienced player among us, but to me it seems like the best time to call for a mass-claim is to do is spontaneously, when scum don't expect it/haven't prepared for it.

[Thesp]

@Thesp - Why Luca and not JF?

I'd probably be happy with either, actually, but I need to take a closer look at it, and will after massclaim. Do you have any objections? Speak now and quickly, please. You're the only one who hasn't weighed in.

We need to massclaim... but im not sure why VT claim start it off instead of most town person. Especially since you seem to have Luca as scum so wanting a scum read to choose where a massclaim starts is really odd to me.

Who would you have pick the first person?

I think you're going with someone who has already claimed anyway, and not beating around the bush trying to figure out who will claim next would be the best in terms of expediency.

Luca Blight, who do you want to claim first?

[LlamaFluff]

Who would you have pick the first person?

I think you're going with someone who has already claimed anyway, and not beating around the bush trying to figure out who will claim next would be the best in terms of expediency.

Me. Unless you are going to try to argue that I am scum and TDA tried to kill me N1, or that both scum and SK killed massive, I am confirmed town from N1.

Also if it was Luca or JF, I would go with Luca as more town. It just seems very out of place coming from you outside of having your reads completely shift with the Flubber flip because it makes sense to keep scum out of the power of picking who starts a claim.

Ironically Luca just picked who I would... but I really want to know why your first instinct was to go with a VT claim instead of someone you think is town, let alone going for a VT claim you have called scum. I want to know why that is the way you are approaching this because it seems very out of the ordinary.

[Luca Blight]

Luca Blight, who do you want to claim first?

When everyone's ready, I want Lissa to claim first.

[Egg]

Llama, what do you think happened to scum's N3 kill?

[Lissa]

town vanilla, popcorn to thesp

[Marquis]

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— Beck, Egg, JohnnyFarrar, Lissa, LlamaFluff, Luca Blight, Thesp

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votes are needed to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-12-31 16:00:00)

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[Thesp]

Vanilla town. Egg, you're next.

[Egg]

VT

Beck next

[Beck]

Even night cop

N2: llama not guilty
N4: no result so probably got RBd

And no I never actually crumbed my role, but I heavily inferred one day 1 and crumbed my llama result. Its also why I knew there could be no joat.

johnny boy, go next

[Beck]

I'll check back later cause I'm sure people will have questions but I'm taking my wife to the ER right now

[Thesp]

Even night cop

N2: llama not guilty
N4: no result so probably got RBd

And no I never actually crumbed my role, but I heavily inferred one day 1 and crumbed my llama result. Its also why I knew there could be no joat.

johnny boy, go next

Who did you investigate N4?

And be well, take care.

[Beck]

Tried to investigate johnny

Thanks, this month has been horrible for her