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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:32 pm

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In post 1422, Guyett wrote:I really don't think sthar is scum tbh. Anen highly unlikely to be scum too given the tracker result. from my point of view its either Cheery or EPM

Why is sthar able to be cleared for you?

Although I'm no longer happy with the reasoning behind my vote, I read the context for the quote I pulled out, a perceived daytalk slip from Broodking was actually just talking about fluff. (I can't see how his post works anyway since the two posts he mentioned weren't even interaction with each other.
But then that's still just grouping people together as town for a random reason.

What I don't like is the way you're now attempting to push in the way I was looking yesterday, almost the same as how Konowa was trying to work around my vote from the day before.

Go look over my reasoning for my Anen vote on Day 3, and compare it to Konowa's reasoning yesterday - then try to tell me I'm a better lynch.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 pm

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Official Vote Count


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: Aneninen, Guyett, evilpacman18, sthar8

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 pm

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In post 1407, evilpacman18 wrote:
In post 1404, BipolarChemist wrote:
Please refer to the wiki for questions like that.

The Traitor may or may not know who is in the Mafia to begin with.

This is unclear, so does that mean you won't say?


Pretty much.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:10 pm

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In post 1424, Cheery Dog wrote:I was never on the Konowa wagon, I can't have jumped off it.
Please actually do some proper vca if you're bothering, there's just words here that still mean nothing, such as my position off the misaka wagon. (especially when both of the wagons have me in the same position as not having voted anyone.


You're right, I must have misread something. Sorry.
At least I didn't vote for you after presenting a flawed case. ^_^
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:02 pm

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I think I'm mostly voting currently because I feel bad that I didn't use my vote yesterday when I had plenty of opportunity.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:45 am

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@Cheery I hydra with ETL and we (mainly her) have figured out how to read Sthar as we regularly play with each other. From his posts so far I'm fairly confident in my town read on him.

Sthar is one of the people who can also read me quite well (ETL, Antihero, mastin2 and Grimgroove are the few who can read me better than him and Jingle)

From my point of view it realistically has to be either you or EPM.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:23 am

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nobody wants to give me their thought on whether it's one or two left?
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:27 am

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I really doubt there's 2 left... That'd mean 4 scum in a 13 player game.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:36 am

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ok
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:12 am

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I'm starting with reading up on Konowa's interactions with everyone who's still alive.

I'm kind of a blank slate but I'm leaning towards Guyett and/or sthar. I really think Cheery Dog is town, because of both his posting today and because of the way Chevre and Konowa both went after him from D1. I think Guyett - whose VCA is really important to his reads in general - missing this is pretty incriminating. Hopefully that read doesn't seem defensive, there's not really precedent for much of anything in my ISO but as far as it goes, I think I have been leaning scum on him the entire game. I sort of let it go when FG and Anti were letting him go, and because I really didn't care about anything while Konowa was left alive for no reason. Aneninen is a ?

I think Konowa and Chevre's ISOs and VC history offer all the proof anyone should need that Boonskiies/Cheery was decidedly not scum. Chevre near the end of D1 looks like he was just trying to be on whatever the most likely counterwagon to his lynch was gonna be. Konowa and Chevre both had turns on the Boonskiies wagon. I notice in the D1 vote counts too that Konowa tends to be just a few steps behind either Chevre or Guyett for basically the entire day.
and are interesting. Time-wise they're super close together and they're both responses to particular posts, but in 192, Konowa addresses Guyett's 179. It's random because the intent of those two very close together posts is otherwise completely conversational, and it's an oddly specific quote that he picks out to talk about, it just seems to me like he's trying to be in conversation with Guyett.
Anen remains a ?, Konowa's ISO is unhelpful in that regard but I think that's a good thing.
is valuable, I normally wouldn't read something like "Guy has been obvtown all game" as something one scumbuddy would say to another scumbuddy (from Konowa's point of view, here) but I noticed in I think that Konowa seemed pretty submissive to Guy. Like he expresses in multiple posts that he doesn't understand peoples' reasoning, but it's only with Guyett that he asks for help understanding ("what am I missing?"), rather than acting smarter than/coachy to the other person (compare with for instance, "you're being too gullible").
On Brood/sthar, Konowa's ISO is also fairly unhelpful.

So right now scum->town I've got Guyett, sthar, Anen, Cheery
Chevre's ISO is next
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:27 am

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Oh I also have to look into who was actively hindering the Konowa lynch D3
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:51 am

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actually idk if that'll be helpful, depends on if scum figured out Konowa was their traitor.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:13 pm

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yawn.

pacman's being pacman.

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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:11 pm

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In post 1414, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 1413, Guyett wrote:
Aneninen can now be cleared by Chao's tracker result, unless you what to believe he's got at least one ninja shot.

oh true. good.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:12 pm

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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:15 pm

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and probably should have read page 57
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:18 pm

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vote: Guyett
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:02 pm

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Preemptive prod dodge. I have had busy days since my holiday ended. And I'm still sick which is not funny because apart from my sweetheart noone accepts the latter fact in my fukkn IRL.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:24 pm

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Official Vote Count


sthar8 (1):
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Guyett (1):
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Not Voting
: Aneninen, Guyett

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:52 pm

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VOTE: cheery
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:54 am

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sthar if Cheery flips town, will you at least reconsider on Guyett tomorrow instead of quicklynching me
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:57 am

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eh I suppose your answer doesn't actually change the way this is gonna go

vote: Cheery Dog
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:00 am

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just think about it tonight.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:19 am

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Have I just missed the Day again?
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:26 am

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