Mini 642: Bodyguard 7: (Game Over)

[bird1111]

killa seven and Alabaska J were prodded (I'm not going to replace Alabaska J until he returns.

Vote Count:
killa seven (2): TDC, jonathantan86
BridgesAndBaloons (1): TheSweatPantsNinja
TDC (1): killa seven
Alabaska J (1): CallMeLiam
CallMeLiam (1): Alabaska J

Not voting (1): BridgesAndBaloons

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

TDC: do you believe what CML is saying about me is scummy to do? If you don't want to answer this, don't. I think you have a reason for not saying this.

Killa: what do you think of TSPN?

[Alabaska J]

I basically agree with TSPN about the whole pageantry thing.

My vote stays, and I think Jonathan is noobtown for the record.

[Alabaska J]

woah,

unvote, vote: BridgesandBaloons

.

Forgot about the whole CML thing.

[jonathantan86]

Hmm...I see that many people disagree with me that it is possible to distinguish between power roles and townies by certain conversation. But I have quotes like these:

Um. . . no. Pro-town powerroles ought to attempt to hunt scum like everyone else. Having noncontributing powerroles is an excellent way to get powerroles outed.

This. Lurking and playing quiet as a power role is a great way to show everyone you're a power role.

Which seems to say that if power roles stay silent, they might be recognised as one. So the scum might force conversation in such a way that power roles are caught between a rock and a hard place--either join in, draw attention to him/herself and risk being lynched, or retreat and risk being seen as a non-contributing power role (by the scum, since they know that the person isn't scum).

This is just my opinion though.

Also, yes, it is in scum's best interest to be unpredictable, but as far as I know Bodyguard is not a common setup and thus scum might choose a behaviour that statistically benefits them.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

Good to see you back, Alabaska J.

My vote stays, and I think Jonathan is noobtown for the record.

Are you out of your mind? Why the hell are you saying this? Seriously. Please DO NOT SAY WHO YOU THINK IS TOWN. If Jonathan is scum you just told scum that they can safely fake-claim with him. Way to fucking go.
I'm legitimately pissed off.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

Oh, and Alabaska, please be careful on your comments on what I said. Don't reveal please.

[Alabaska J]

I really dislike your attitude toward traditional scumhunting. Who are we supposed to lynch to day?

Also, jonathan is new to the game. If he can fakeclaim like you are suggesting successfully, kudos to him.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So the scum might force conversation in such a way that power roles are caught between a rock and a hard place--either join in, draw attention to him/herself and risk being lynched, or retreat and risk being seen as a non-contributing power role (by the scum, since they know that the person isn't scum).

What? For that to really happen the way you're describing it, scum would have to already know who has the powerroles, in order to know who to force into conversation.

Seriously. Please DO NOT SAY WHO YOU THINK IS TOWN. If Jonathan is scum you just told scum that they can safely fake-claim with him.

Safely fake-claim. . . what? Noob? Do you

really

see jt as a nk magnet?

[BridgesAndBaloons]

What do you think my attitude is towards traditional scum-hunting, TSPN?

If you say anyone is town, then the scum know you'll believe their safe-claim. For instance, say jonathan and I are scum. Tomorrow, during the mass-claim, in order to avoid being decimated, one of us would have to counter-claim or pre-emptively fake-claim one of the roles. You just told us that you think jonathan is town, so we know that tomorrow, if we keep you alive, we know that you will believe his fake-claim since you think he's town.

Now, you're probably not idiotic enough to completely think jonathan is town right now, but I'm making a point here. By saying who you think is town can only hurt the town. It's not scummy play because if scum say who they think is town, it's meaningless. But, it's very anti-town to say who you think is town. Please don't do it again.

Just step back and think about how anti-town it is to say who you think is town given that we know what are strategy and the scum's strategy will probably be tomorrow. Just

think.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

EEBWOP: I meant to say: "what do you think my attitude is towards traditional scum hunting, Alabaska J?"

the rest of the post addresses TSPN.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

Mod:

has killa picked up his prod yet?

Yes.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

sorry for the quardruple post. Anyway, I'm not going to yell at anyone for saying who they think is town. I'm done repeating myself. Everyone should know that it is extremely anti-town, but not actually scummy to do that. Thanks.

[Alabaska J]

Here's what I think: the scum wouldn't have thought of that if BaB hadn't said it :/

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I think this is another example of BaB taking a minor issue and blowing it out of proportion to make him appear like the keeper of the pro-town flame.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

^that's exactly what I thought it would apear like. Thus, "I'm not going to yell at anyone for saying who they think is town. I'm done repeating myself. " I don't care how pro-town I look like.

There are things we as a town

cannot

do if we want to have the best possible chance to win

. No one else is screaming it, so I might as well. In fact, all my anger probably looks scummy.
I'm not an idiot. I don't know why you think I'm tying to "apear like the keeper of the pro-town flame" when NO ONE THINKS WHAT I'M DOING MAKES ME PRO-TOWN! Not even

I

think what I'm doing an indication of my alignment.

as for post 163, then what I did is anti-town, but not scummy. It's just like saying who you think is town. As scum it doesn't help you out, but if I did that as town, then it's just anti-town. Anyway, I disagree, scum aren't stupid, and there could possibly be two people talking together tonight, with two brains.

[Alabaska J]

Anyway, I disagree, scum aren't stupid, and there could possibly be two people talking together tonight, with two brains.

Well, I have an IQ of 166 (only ten below Einstein for reference) and I didn't think of it. It isn't as inherently obvious as you claim and you are making such a big deal out of it.

Also, notice how the only ones calling you out are the people voting you. Everyone else doesn't seem to think you are scummy.

[killa seven]

TDC: do you believe what CML is saying about me is scummy to do? If you don't want to answer this, don't. I think you have a reason for not saying this.

Killa: what do you think of TSPN?

TSPN allways looks scummy to me.

[Alabaska J]

Killa: why don't you vote BaB?

[CallMeLiam]

unvote, vote: killa seven

This lurking is getting silly now.

[killa seven]

Killa: why don't you vote BaB?

Dont know anything about BAB, im not comfortable just hoppin on a wagon, ill re read right qiuck! . just got room for this game so i will be posting more.

[BridgesAndBaloons]

Killa: why don't you vote BaB?

I'm wondering if you're serious or not.

[Alabaska J]

unvote, vote: killa seven

This lurking is getting silly now.

A lurker lynch?

Are you serious

[BridgesAndBaloons]

I'm wondering if you missed post 171.

[Alabaska J]

No I was not really serious, although if he had followed my advice I wouldn't have objected.