Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[Alabaska J]

Edit: Bah I am dead

Mod edit
Votecount:
Xtoxm (6): armlx, Surye, BlakAdder, Jebus, farside22, Wall-E
Wall-E (1): kuribo
armlx (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (7): Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, ThAdmiral, springlullaby, Riceballtail

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

[Surye]

Muerrto, Doctor, killed Night 3
Alabaska J, Townie, killed Night 3
al4xz, Mafia Goon, killed Night 3

OMG! GHOSTS!

[kuribo]

I don't like Xtoxm's attempt to start a wagon on armlx. The logic behind it is only the second stupidest logic he's tried to show in this game. (See his first vote on me for the stupidest)

This wagon is picking up way too fast for my liking, it reeks of opportunism.

[Riceballtail]

Based on al4xz's defending on Wall-E,

VOTE:Wall-E

Still debating the Xtoxm debate.

[armlx]

I'm not announcing a target. The odds of that happening should be low enough, and it gives the mafia 1 person not to target if they want to kill me.

[Wall-E]

Hey, woah, what's all this sudden baseless conjecture on me? If we aren't lynching Xtoxm some people need to unvote. I'm keeping him in the danger zone because I don't like his refusal to claim.

[kuribo]

Hey, woah, what's all this sudden baseless conjecture on me?

You're f'n kidding me, right?

This, THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of someone using language that tries to minimize the case against him.

[ZazieR]

Also, Zazier said She would get back into this game. Remind me if She doesn't post soon, then I'll prod HER.

Fixed.

It seems that there are many players who make this mistake. I wonder why?

Yes, I'm back. I'll post my thoughts ASAP. But my computer isn't helping me with this. And there are some other games waiting as well.
I hope I can post this weekend, otherwise it will be monday.

[Wall-E]

Hey, woah, what's all this sudden baseless conjecture on me?

You're f'n kidding me, right?

This, THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of someone using language that tries to minimize the case against him.

My use of language ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pushes an agenda. Are you claiming yours doesn't? You've basically just posted "Water's wet."

Maybe you could bring SOMETHING AT ALL up at this point. The opportunity is good to rehash some past stuff... why did I get a null post out of you instead of actual attacks?

Oh... because YOUR language is trying to MAXIMIZE the case against me.

That underlined bit was sarcasm. I clearly label my sarcasm to prevent confusion. You're welcome.

[kuribo]

Uh, wrong wrong wrong wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong.

Of course we're going to rehash past stuff, you don't get a pass. Not now, not ever.

If you think it's baseless, show why it's baseless. Show why you and al4xz weren't buddying up, and then distancing from one another once it was pointed out.

[Riceballtail]

Uh, wrong wrong wrong wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong.

Of course we're going to rehash past stuff, you don't get a pass. Not now, not ever.

If you think it's baseless, show why it's baseless. Show why you and al4xz weren't buddying up, and then distancing from one another once it was pointed out.

This becomes extremely more relevant when one of the two in suspect flips scum.

[kuribo]

Uh, wrong wrong wrong wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong.

Of course we're going to rehash past stuff, you don't get a pass. Not now, not ever.

If you think it's baseless, show why it's baseless. Show why you and al4xz weren't buddying up, and then distancing from one another once it was pointed out.

This becomes extremely more relevant when one of the two in suspect flips scum.

EXACTLY.

And Wall-E's attempt to call it "baseless" is exactly what I was talking about in the post that he called a "null post." He's been doing stuff like this all game. Townies don't try to mischaracterize legitimate concerns as "baseless," they explain their actions.

[Jebus]

Based on al4xz's defending on Wall-E,

VOTE:Wall-E

Still debating the Xtoxm debate.

al4x was scum.

Usually, scum defend town. Al4x may be a new player, but still assume its this way. We can come back to this later.

[kuribo]

Based on al4xz's defending on Wall-E,

VOTE:Wall-E

Still debating the Xtoxm debate.

al4x was scum.

Usually, scum defend town. Al4x may be a new player, but still assume its this way. We can come back to this later.

No, Al4xz defended Wall-E for something completely ridiculous, interjecting himself where he wasn't needed. Then, when Al4xz was called scummy for it, he and Wall-E began voting each other.

To say that scum don't defend one another is stupid--- of course they will from time to time, because they expect someone like you to pipe up and say, "Hurrr, obvtown, scum was buddying up to him."

[armlx]

This wagon is also acceptable. I almost investigate Wall-E had I not worried about Kuribo doing the exact same thing I always do (albeit I should have realized I do it as both town and scum, so it was a sub-par choice).

[kuribo]

This wagon is also acceptable. I almost investigate Wall-E had I not worried about Kuribo doing the exact same thing I always do (albeit I should have realized I do it as both town and scum, so it was a sub-par choice).

yeah that'd be like saying that I'm scum because I'm hostile and antagonistic, but I'm always that way

[kuribo]

Anyone else see Jebus' last post as subtle misdirection? "Nah, Wall-E is probably town because al4 defended him. Let's talk about it some other time."

What's your big hurry to move on? We can talk about it now. Hell, we can talk about it from now until Judgement Day. You agree? Good, let's do that.

[kuribo]

And it's not JUST the defending or JUST the OMGUS between the two of them.

It's the TIMING. The SECOND it was pointed out that al4xz had defended Wall-E, they immediately took steps to try and remove that link.

[armlx]

Unvote, Vote Wall-E

This xtoxm wagon is moving too fast. Scum powered obviously.

[kuribo]

Yeah, I'm not liking Xtoxm, but I don't think he's scum, I just think he's playing his usual inconsistent self. The thing I dislike most about Xtoxm is "lolol let's lynch the claimed cop" because that's what we said Wall-E was advocating. But let's face it--- if Xtoxm is scum, it's an extremely ballsy move to draw attention to himself in that way. I don't believe in Too Scummy To Be Scum, but God damn, the more I think about it, the more I think it'd be mind-numbingly stupid for scum to try and push an Armlx wagon. There doesn't even seem to be an upside for scum to do that.

[Wall-E]

Hey, woah, what's all this sudden baseless conjecture on me?

You're f'n kidding me, right?

This, THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of someone using language that tries to minimize the case against him.

My use of language ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pushes an agenda. Are you claiming yours doesn't? You've basically just posted "Water's wet."

Maybe you could bring SOMETHING AT ALL up at this point. The opportunity is good to rehash some past stuff... why did I get a null post out of you instead of actual attacks?

Oh... because YOUR language is trying to MAXIMIZE the case against me.

That underlined bit was sarcasm. I clearly label my sarcasm to prevent confusion. You're welcome.

Uh, wrong wrong wrong wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong.

That's unspecific. I said like nine things. Are they all wrong?

Of course we're going to rehash past stuff, you don't get a pass. Not now, not ever.

[quote="I, in the post you were responding to,]Maybe you could bring SOMETHING AT ALL up at this point.

The opportunity is good to rehash some past stuff

... why did I get a null post out of you instead of actual attacks?[/quote]

QED, you have the reading comprehension skills of a flapjack.

If you think it's baseless, show why it's baseless. Show why you and al4xz weren't buddying up, and then distancing from one another once it was pointed out.

The claimed cop? Uh... sure. I was buddying with the claimed cop. (sarcasm again)

Why are you saying this? Maybe I'm missing your point. Could you be more specific?

Your entire post was... emotionally charged, far-reaching crap. I get the feeling you're desperate to save Xtoxm. Am I wrong?

[Wall-E]

Oh, al4xz, not Armlx.

I have played a straight-up game here. If I agreed with someone, defended someone, attacked someone or backed off of someone it was, I assure you, intentional. Draw whatever conclusions you feel are appropriate. If you come up with a specific question, I'll answer, but your generalized accusation, asking me to defend against your imagining, that's impossibly burden-of-proof shifting of you, kuribo.

[Xtoxm]

Unvote Vote farside

I think this was the worst vote on my wagon.

[kuribo]

Oh, al4xz, not Armlx.

I have played a straight-up game here. If I agreed with someone, defended someone, attacked someone or backed off of someone it was, I assure you, intentional. Draw whatever conclusions you feel are appropriate. If you come up with a specific question, I'll answer, but your generalized accusation, asking me to defend against your imagining, that's impossibly burden-of-proof shifting of you, kuribo.

Words words words.

That's an awful lot of them for a post that says absolutely nothing.

You could be the Governor of Alaska with double-talk like that!

[Wall-E]

Ah-thank you. *smile - kiss a baby*