Stars Aligned II - Game Over!

[semioldguy]

At deadline, whoever has the majority of votes will be lynched. If there is a tie, whoever received their final vote first will be lynched.

[Hayker]

(insert useless excuses here)

*twitches*

Vote:Wickedestjr

Heeyyy old mason buddy! I thinkses you are scum! I realise Mafia 96 is a bit outdated, and your meta may have changed but....I dunno. You seem far to different. You(in 96) has seemed to always state your opinions, and give your voice and vote. I realise you have been catching up all the time, but that doesn't stop you from posting general things. I must say though, the biggest reason for this vote is you town read on me. I see no reason that implies you thougts of Adel being town from your original read, and I could not have possibly gotten that sort of a change from you.

I laundered last night, heard no noise(if I haven't said already)

[iLord]

Hayker, Wicked's pretty much confirmed to have warded VP Night 0.

Why did you launder?

[DrippingGoofball]

Did anybody except me and DGB claim to have recieved fetishes?

Should I ward or rez you tonight? I may or may not do the opposite.

[elvis_knits]

I rezzed somebody last night too (nothing happened, they weren't targetted). Does that mean that my rezz would fail or your rezz would fail, DGB? Does it matter who sent in first or something?

If I believe that you're not scum DGB, and are rezzing me or warding me, I'll probably do a different action so we don't screw ourselves.

[elvis_knits]

UPDATED with corrections

[mrow]Player[col]N0[col]N1[col]N2[col]Explanation/Notes Adel/Hayker[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col]Rezzed by Plum [col]Laundered[col]VP failed ward/Ani stalked but did not kill/kunkstar(drench) stalk-murder failed Magua(Amished)[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col]Noise:No [col]?[col]?

CSL(Col.Cathart)

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col]Murdered/rezzed [col]-dead with 2 insanities-[col]Elli stalked-murdered dramonic[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No (warded by chaco)[col] Noise:No [col]?[col]? DGB[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No (warded by elvis)[col]Noise:yes/Rezzed elvis [col]Noise:Yes (fetish)/Rezzed elvis[col]? Ellibereth[col]Stalked CSL[col] Murdered CSL [col]Search Forensics kit[col]?

Iecerint

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col] Murdered [col] - [col] No insanities (not yet flipped) iLord[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col] Rezzed Phate [col]Noise:Yes[col]?

Phate

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col] Cult target/Rezzed [col]Cult Kill[col]One insanity (presumably due to being rezzed)

Sajin

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col] Murdered [col] - [col]Flipped Investigator Plum/Sarag [col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col]Rezzed Adel?Hayker[col]Noise:Yes(fetish)[col]Has like 2 posts

Katy/Seacore

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col] Murdered [col] - [col]Insanity count 0 vikingfan[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No [col]Noise:No Ward:no[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col]? Animorperv[col]Stalked Adel/Hayker[col]Robbed grav/Searched Forensics kit [col]No actions due to too many II's[col] ? kunkstar/Drench[col]Stalked Adel/Hayker[col] Murdered Adel/Hayker [col]Occult books[col]Claims Drench went murderer but kunk went back to investigator Evilsnail[col]Noise:No Ward:No [col]?[col]?[col]? rewq/faraday[col]Noise:No Ward:No[col] Forensic kit [col]Checked ANi (not bloody)[col]?

Nico

[col]Noise:Yes Ward:No[col] - [col] -[col]Dead cult yay! Semioldguy[col]Noise:No Ward:No [col]Noise:Yes [col]Noise:Yes[col]? SLy[col]Noise:No Ward:No [col] ?[col]?[col]?

Startransmission

[col]Noise:No Ward:No [col] ?[col]Murdered[col]Insanity Count 3 VP[col]Noise:Yes Ward:Yes(Adel) Warded by Wicked [col]Noise:Yes[col]Noise:No Ward:No[col]Ward on Adel failed N1 due to wicked warding him Chaco[col]Noise:Yes Ward:Yes(Dram)[col]Stalk Startransmission[col]Murdered startransmission[col]? elvis[col]Noise:Yes Ward:Yes (DGB)[col]Noise:yes Searched:Rez Kit[col]Noise:Yes(Fetish) Rezzed(somebody that wasn't targetted)[col]? wicked[col]Noise:Yes Ward:Yes(VP)[col]?[col]?[col]?

[elvis_knits]

vote kunkstar

Because despite this little story that has been spun about Drench's intent to go murderer, and kunstar's repentance... I see a tie to Nico-cult, and non-voting behavior that does not fit with kunk's claim that he took taboo launder as his first insanity. I think this guy is cult.

[elvis_knits]

Hmmm... wait. If kunk is cult, that means he's lying about murdering Adel. And since Ani is not bloody, drench/kunk is the only one who could have done it (presumably, unless there is another person out there who tried to murder Adel and hasn't claimed).

So either kunk is a would-be murderer who may or may not have gone legit - or - drench/kunk and Adel/hayker and Plum are all cult who have crafted an intricate conspiracy.

Is there some way we can check their story?

[Hayker]

Hayker, Wicked's pretty much confirmed to have warded VP Night 0.

Why did you launder?

Because you know, there is absolutly no reasons that could be interpreted as good or clever beyond craft fetish/sarcasm

We really should not be clearing people by night actions as cult has access to a lot of the same ones we investigators do.

I laundered because I was bloody.

[Wickedestjr]

I didn't hear noise nights 1 and 2.

[SlySly]

I did hear noise N1 and N2.

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I laundered because I was bloody.

What pro-town action left you bloody, scum?

[Wickedestjr]

Drench/Kunkstar

- Drench didn't talk about Nicodemus at all. Nicodemus mentioned Drench once, and that was when he called him scum for not giving a reason for opposing the game breaking plan, which, isn't true. I was fine with the reason Drench gave. I don't think this is a good point anyway, but I think Nicodemus has overexaggerated it by making Drench one of his top suspects for it. I thought it over, and I think it is slightly more likely that this is bussing. I don't know why he'd exaggerate a bad point on a townie. It would only attract negative attention.

Neutral/Scum

[VP Baltar]

Okay hold on stand back

Vote: Drench

. This should go to show my Insanity for y'all. This looks like it might be a bussing case of 'Oh crud, my buddy did something ridiculously scummy better hop on right quick'.

I don't understand what you are saying with this last sentence.

Cross robbing is a bad plan.

I disagree. I think most players would have some kind of equipment by now and even if they didn't there is no way for a potential murderer to know this. I think it's an effective plan and a murderer not participating is engaging in VERY high risk behavior.


As a note in this game, I do want people to not auto clear someone because they are on a scum lynch. I was thinking about it a bit and it would be extremely easy for scum to just up and decide they want to power bus a buddy because they can daytalk and coordinate it. I think we need to be looking at scummy behavior overall and make connections somewhat secondary to that. Just my two cents.

Thanks for the work on the table EK. I think there are things missing, but that can be added back. I also think we should add an Insanity Count column. I really want everyone to claim the number of insanities they have so they can be checked by Occult Books more accurately. I currently have zero. Everyone should claim in their next post.

DGB claimed that she's tried rezzing EK twice, presumably the last two nights (night 0 would be stupid).

Wait a frakking minute! DGB could not have rezzed EK two nights. She could not have searched twice and rezzed twice in three nights.

Unvote, Vote: DGB

Scum confirmed. This has to be today's lynch.

Should I ward or rez you tonight? I may or may not do the opposite.

lol, infinite equipment DGB. This is one of your biggest fails, I must say.

Hayker....why do you have an insanity?

[vikingfan]

EK and DGB- Stop posting about what you're going to do in the future. It's antitown. From the OP:

Any Resuscitate action targeting you tonight will fail, and the player who targeted you will not be notified of the failure.


Basically, declaring that you will rezz ANYONE paints a great big bullseye on your back saying, "I'm unprotected, kill me." One could say that one could use WIFOM, except for this...TOWN will not know to protect you either because they will figure, 'Hey, that person is not worth protecting because I can't save them so I'll go after someone else.' Keep your future actions to yourself...we want to keep as many players alive as possible.

Posting about rezzes you've done in the past is fine. Posting about what you're going to do in the future is not.

[elvis_knits]

VP, the REz kit only gets destroyed if you use it to rezz someone who was killed or get bloody through other means. So hypothetically, DGB could have searched for rez kit N0, and used in N1 and N2 on me. I was not murdered/rezzed either night (I would have been told). So the equipment would not have been destroyed. So it is possible. Not sure I believe her, but it is technically possible.

I agree that we should claim insanities -- Your number, the cause, the night you got it, and what handicaps you chose.

I have 1 insanity (from fetish last night). I took Taboo launder.

[VP Baltar]

Oh, I didn't realize the rezz kit stayed if you failed. Sigh.

Unvote

Should have known it wouldn't have been that easy.

[elvis_knits]

EK and DGB- Stop posting about what you're going to do in the future. It's antitown. From the OP:

Any Resuscitate action targeting you tonight will fail, and the player who targeted you will not be notified of the failure.


Basically, declaring that you will rezz ANYONE paints a great big bullseye on your back saying, "I'm unprotected, kill me." One could say that one could use WIFOM, except for this...TOWN will not know to protect you either because they will figure, 'Hey, that person is not worth protecting because I can't save them so I'll go after someone else.' Keep your future actions to yourself...we want to keep as many players alive as possible.

Posting about rezzes you've done in the past is fine. Posting about what you're going to do in the future is not.

Okay. Well, I won't use my rezz kit in any case then for this reason.

Something I don't understand though. How does this work if DGB says she targetted me for rezz last night and I targetted someone else for rezz last night. Which one fails? My person is still alive and has claimed they heard noise (which I assumed was from me protecting them).

[semioldguy]

I have zero insanities.

@VP Baltar
Hayker has already explained his insanity as originating with being protected from a murder.

[Hayker]

I did hear noise N1 and N2.

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I laundered because I was bloody.

What pro-town action left you bloody, scum?

I was almost killed, that's what.

[elvis_knits]

So Hayker, you only have one insanity?

[SlySly]

I was almost killed, that's what.

I figured that out after SOG made his statement to VP.

[Hayker]

Yes, obtained night 1 when I was being killed.

[elvis_knits]

Cool, now everybody else claim insanities so I can put a row in the table.

[vikingfan]

Do those who have used Commune claim it? or do we keep that secret for now?

[iLord]

0 Insanities.