Mafia 49: SpeedyKQ's Big New York Game - Game over!

Thok · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:39 am

Bah, reread recent stuff to see all of the claims. My interpretation of what I've read is that Mari is a goon and BJ is a godfather. I'll claim if necessary.

Thok · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:58 am

Actually on rereading raj, I can't get a good feel for which of raj/BJ is more likely to be a godfather. But I'm pretty sure one of them is a godfather, as I can't see Max as scum and I know I'm not mafia, and 4 scum in a 25 player game is too few.

Thok · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:17 pm

Since I haven't made enough posts in a row

vote Maritya

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spectrumvoid · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:32 pm

mod

Can we have a vote count please?

I've reread the game. I believe mari is scummy, too many reasons to count but they've all been stated before. But I can't remember how many votes she has on her, so

FOS: Mari

for now.

Thok · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:56 pm

SpeedyKQ wrote:

Vote Count:

1 Mariyta (Thok)
4 not voting (Mariyta, spectrumvoid, rajrhcpfreak, BabyJesus)

3 to lynch

The only thing that's changed since then is that I unvoted and revoted Mari.

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:19 pm

Thok wrote:Actually on rereading raj, I can't get a good feel for which of raj/BJ is more likely to be a godfather. But I'm pretty sure one of them is a godfather, as I can't see Max as scum and I know I'm not mafia, and 4 scum in a 25 player game is too few.

wow, reading that...

makes alot of sense. 5 mafia, that means we are at lynch or lose. assumeing that your correct.

lets say im voting right now on mari. but im not going to untill we can talk about it a little longer. 2 mafia could rush the vote if i get on. then agian.. why havnt they rushed the vote right now?

spectrumvoid · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:03 am

I have no idea what's the usual number of scum, since none of my big games have finished yet. But wouldn't scum easily pile on and vote if there are 5 of them, and we might be at lynch-or-lose?

Thok · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:26 am

Typical rule of thumb is 25%-33% scum. With a weak town, I'd expect around 25%, which would be 6ish scum, which can't be the case since the game would be over (we've killed only 3 Glork, Fortify, vikingfan). So unless something weird is going on there are 2 scum left.

We do have some info since raj didn't hammer Mari when she had two votes on her today.

BabyJesus · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:36 am

hi...

I see we're playing again? Good deal.

vote Mari

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:12 pm

are we done talking about this BJ?

im ready to vote for her. since scum should have already lynched her.

spectrumvoid · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:13 pm

vote: Mariyta

With a game at 64 pages, I don't think voting without giving Mari a chance to respond is a bad thing to do. And it's true that scum would have lynched her already for them to win if she was pro-town.

SpeedyKQ · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:59 am

Mariyta is lynched. She was a mafia framer.

Each night she could choose one person to appear guilty to cop investigations on that night.

Night falls. Send choices.

SpeedyKQ · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:29 am

Deadline for choices 48 hours from this post.

SpeedyKQ · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:15 am

The last day dawns.

spectrumvoid has been shot. She was a townie.

Just three players left will decide the town's fate. Two votes to lynch.

Thok · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:40 am

So is BJ or raj the godfather? Given that this game seems to be based on cop mechanics, there basically has to be an investigation immune godfather.

Leaning towards voting raj at the moment, just based off of yesterday's events. But in this situation there's no reason for me to place a vote before everybody makes a post.

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:46 am

shit.

i should have know this was going to happen.

Thok: is there any proof that you are town? your acting like your confirmed, but i dont see it when i look back at yours and slaking, and nightfall's posts.

Thok · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:40 am

Well, no there isn't any direct proof that I'm protown.

Except that everybody's basically accepted that the two of you were Fritzler's cop targets ever since he died, and there's been EIGHT night kills since that happened, of which SIX have been townies. If both of you are protown, then I don't see a reason why scum wouldn't have tried to kill either of you ahead of say Coron, BMQ, or CES.

I'll also point out that looking at both of BJ/raj's posts, there's nothing that really sticks out protown there either.

Thok · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:10 pm

Did more rereading, and I'm now a lot more comfortable with BJ being protown than raj. I'm only really waiting for BJ to show up today before I place a vote.

BJ lead the twito lynch when a max lynch was looking inevitable. Given that Max was probably the bookie target, I find it hard to believe that BJ would stick out his neck for something that seems to have no purpose.

Also damning in my mind for raj is Post 848, where raj is sure that Kelly is a cop (something that was not clear at all at the time; she could have had some other sort of role). This is especially bizarre given that raj then proceeds to attack and vote kelly.

Thok · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:42 pm

Bump.

Prod BJ

please.

BabyJesus · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:17 pm

Oh, sorry. I keep forgetting this game is still going on, lol.

Not ready to vote yet, to be honest. I will do a reread later, kinda tired at the moment. I'm not ready to asume raj is the godfather, as it could just as easily be a deliberate attempt to leave a "godfather" alive at the end to be mislynched.

I seem to recall scum pushing a Max lynch a lot. Need to go see who else was on board with that. I'll try and check in tomorrow.

Thok · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:57 pm

Fair enough. I'd be more suspicious of you if you'd just showed up and voted for somebody.

I'm also willing to accept that the nightkill of spectrumvoid/max last night does not provide any information either way about who's the remaining scum; given that everybody was pretty sure max was town, spectrumvoid seems like an obvious night kill for anybody. Any argument I'd make about scum passing of a chance to kill you two would be based on the CES, BMQ, Tamuz, Coron series of kills nights 7-10 (Scum had reasons to target both Spamwise and MBL, since both were cleared by investigations. Also, I don't believe scum knew about Tamuz's role when they targetted him.)

Heck, I'm even willing to concede that I'd probably have made every post I've made so far in this game whether I was protown or scum. (I mean, feel free to look at them, but you're probably better of looking at posts by Nightfall, slakingmaster, and our various known scum).

That said on rereading the thread , I'm confident enough in BJ being town and raj being scum that I will

vote raj

.

BJ-do you want me to claim? Not sure it will be any help.

BabyJesus · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:39 am

vote raj

re-reading is overrated

Thok · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:41 am

Well, good job BJ, whatever your alignment is.

rajrhcpfreak · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:08 am

good job scum.

Kelly Chen · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:23 am

I thought raj was scum too when I died. I chose to investigate BJ instead (aiming to check Fritzler's sanity).

Why didn't Tamuz shelter me? Could have tricked the scum into thinking we still had a doctor.

Glork's lynch was totally unnecessary.

This town certainly did not deserve to win. Good job BJ and Mariyta. Cannot blame Thok at all for that vote.

Thanks for modding Speedy.