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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:56 am

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In post 173, Venmar wrote:
In post 171, TheButtonmen wrote:Also bullocks to your explination, that's straight 100% baloney if Deas was scum he'd just have said yes it was a vote and the game would have ended. Your unvoting thing did nothing more then let you dramatically show how Town! and Concerned! you were.

- I don't expect you to understand because you're scum, so it's fine.


...Once again you're not actually addressing anything said, you're just throwing accusations around without discussing anything in thread.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:07 pm

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TBM, why are your posts addressed to Venmar despite me being the one you're trying to convince?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:50 am

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I'm pointing out the scummy things he's doing and trying to force him to actually respond to them rather then just dodging because he's scum and can't actually do it thus hilighting his scum alignment.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:38 am

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In post 174, DeasVail wrote:
In post 170, Venmar wrote:Also curious as to why you are changing your course from trying to get Deasvail lynched ( your strong previous belief to be scum ) to me.

What was your intention in saying this?

- The intention was to point out his sudden 180 degree turn on his scumreads. I would've expected Button to keep his read on you because he even refused to acknowledge Siveure was town during twilight, so because of that I just kind of thought Button would ignore Deas's townslip and just pursue him.

Deasvail. You're town hardcore right now because you still haven't hammered my vote on Button. If Button really believed you to be confirmed town ( even thought he knew who was town and who wasn't ) the logical move for him as town would be to vote for ME if he thinks you're confirmed town, there's no other possible suspect for him to suspect. The fact he is arguing with me while unwilling to throw down a vote is actually really scummy in my eyes.

Looking over TheButtonMen's reads, in none of them that I recall has he listed Arugula as a scumsuspect. His scumreads stayed consistent on you, Siveure and me, the entire town team of the game. This makes perfect sense in his point of view as scum because he is a mafia goon, and Arugula was a godfather, so Button didn't want to risk bussing him under any circumstances. Then if you look at Arugula's scumreads, he DID put Button as a scumsuspect, but he had no real drawback to doing so because Button is a Goon, and the godfather can buss the goon if he so wishes to, while vice versa is very risky and dangerous. This is kind of why I think Button's justification of lynching Siveure over you ( DeasVail ) could have been a mentality slip from his mafia goon role.

During twilight Arugula changed Button into an instant town read to try and direct Siveure's venge kill at either you ( Deasvail ) or me, which actually would have made a lot of sense in his place because a bad venge kill would've ended the game and won it for scum. Arugula's big 180 degree turn on his read on me and flurry of misrepps and word twisting should show you that he was trying to get me or you shot to end the game.

I will expand on something for you Deasvail. Look over Siveure's last minute reads, use what Siveure has said because we now know that he was town. If you look at his reads you will see that he believed you and me to be town, the fact he shot Arugula and he flipped scum should leave Button as scum by PoE.

If you simply hammer Button, we will end this game and town will win, it is a guaranteed victory.

TheButtonmen wrote:I'm pointing out the scummy things he's doing and trying to force him to actually respond to them rather then just dodging because he's scum and can't actually do it thus hilighting his scum alignment.

- You're still not voting me, so don't really believe that I am scum because you know I am town. If you truly are town, you would've voted for me by now because DeasVail is confirmed town, but NOOOO.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:30 am

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Your points about TBM not voting aren't that great IMO, as there's no reason for him not to vote as scum either.

Also, Siv would've thought venmar/arugula based on his posts.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:44 am

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In post 178, Venmar wrote:
If you simply hammer Button, we will end this game and town will win, it is a guaranteed victory.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:42 pm

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In post 179, DeasVail wrote:Your points about TBM not voting aren't that great IMO, as there's no reason for him not to vote as scum either.

- Scum like to keep their vote off to quickhammer, so scum do have a reason to not vote.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:55 pm

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In post 181, Venmar wrote:- Scum like to keep their vote off to quickhammer, so scum do have a reason to not vote.

That doesn't make sense, because it's no different to TBM if I vote you before or after he does.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:44 am

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If you vote before him he can just quickhammer and end the game right there, whereas if he votes before you, he has to depend on you ending the game.

It's kind of hard doing this with you DeasVail. You need to make a decision soon and either hammer scum or vote for a townie, your choice.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:30 pm

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I'll probably vote in the next few hours.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:56 am

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I don't know what to do and I keep putting this off and for the last HOUR I've been flip-flopping from one to the other and I just wish so much that someone else could make this decision for me :(

Vote: TBM


If I don't post after the game ends, it means I'm avoiding it and never looking at it ever again.

I'm really sorry TBM if I'm wrong, and well played Venmar if you are scum.

Ok, so now I'm taking ages to get the balls to click submit....

Ok, I'll do it!

Wait, I have to panic a bit more...

Ok, if I don't do it now, I'll never do it so...

I'll do it before the hour!

Ok, whatever
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:03 am

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I swear I get worse and worse at this every time.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:12 am

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I was town.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:19 am

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It's fine, if you're town we won, I was a townie as well.

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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:43 am

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TBM was lynched, he was a mafia goon!

Great game, all!
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:03 am

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Good Game, I think in future games DeasVail deserves more credit for his plans, he actually nailed one of the townies ( Siv ) and himself and tried to win the game right there. I think if I didn't get all paranoid and cautious of the plan we could have won this a bit easier.

Arugula kind of gave TBM away when he tried to hardcore get me or Deas shot and then flipping scum. Other than that, well played by both, but I feel accomplished for catching both of you after the Siveure lynch.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:01 am

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It wasn't serious to begin with, and I was losing faith in Siv towards the end :(

Well done Vemar for picking TBM as scum, and again, well done Siv for shooting Arugula.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:29 am

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I would have voted venmar in deas's position.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:54 am

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I love you too Siveure, and you're welcome I pulled it off.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:29 am

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In post 164, Venmar wrote:Deasvail, this is an easy town victory if you trully are town.


This sort of thing unnerved me.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:14 am

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